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* [U-Boot] efi_loader: LoadOptions (bootargs)
@ 2019-08-22  9:03 AKASHI Takahiro
  2019-08-22 17:53 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: AKASHI Takahiro @ 2019-08-22  9:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Heinrich,

I'm now wondering whether LoadedImage's LoadOptions, which comes
from "bootargs" variable, should contain a command(application) name
as a first argument or not.

When I tried some efi application (efitools), I found that it expected
so. For example, efitools' UpdateVars.efi takes
    Usage: UpdateVars.efi: [-g guid] [-a] [-e] [-b] var file

and I had to passed arguments by specifying "foo db DB.auth" for
"bootargs" where foo makes no sense.

What do you think about this issue?

Thanks,
-Takahiro Akashi

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* [U-Boot] efi_loader: LoadOptions (bootargs)
  2019-08-22  9:03 [U-Boot] efi_loader: LoadOptions (bootargs) AKASHI Takahiro
@ 2019-08-22 17:53 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
  2019-08-22 23:42   ` AKASHI Takahiro
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Heinrich Schuchardt @ 2019-08-22 17:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

On 8/22/19 11:03 AM, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> Heinrich,
>
> I'm now wondering whether LoadedImage's LoadOptions, which comes
> from "bootargs" variable, should contain a command(application) name
> as a first argument or not.
>
> When I tried some efi application (efitools), I found that it expected
> so. For example, efitools' UpdateVars.efi takes
>      Usage: UpdateVars.efi: [-g guid] [-a] [-e] [-b] var file
>
> and I had to passed arguments by specifying "foo db DB.auth" for
> "bootargs" where foo makes no sense.
>
> What do you think about this issue?

Do you relate to
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jejb/efitools.git?

This style of parsing LoadOptions is defined by the EFI shell. See
function ParseCommandLineToArgs() in
ShellPkg/Application/Shell/ShellParametersProtocol.c.

If UpdateVars.efi would work differently it could not be launched via
the shell.

Best regards

Heinrich

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* [U-Boot] efi_loader: LoadOptions (bootargs)
  2019-08-22 17:53 ` Heinrich Schuchardt
@ 2019-08-22 23:42   ` AKASHI Takahiro
  2019-09-11  6:14     ` AKASHI Takahiro
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: AKASHI Takahiro @ 2019-08-22 23:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 07:53:46PM +0200, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> On 8/22/19 11:03 AM, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> >Heinrich,
> >
> >I'm now wondering whether LoadedImage's LoadOptions, which comes
> >from "bootargs" variable, should contain a command(application) name
> >as a first argument or not.
> >
> >When I tried some efi application (efitools), I found that it expected
> >so. For example, efitools' UpdateVars.efi takes
> >     Usage: UpdateVars.efi: [-g guid] [-a] [-e] [-b] var file
> >
> >and I had to passed arguments by specifying "foo db DB.auth" for
> >"bootargs" where foo makes no sense.
> >
> >What do you think about this issue?
> 
> Do you relate to
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jejb/efitools.git?

Yes.

> This style of parsing LoadOptions is defined by the EFI shell. See
> function ParseCommandLineToArgs() in
> ShellPkg/Application/Shell/ShellParametersProtocol.c.

So do you mean that Shell.efi is responsible for adding a command name
to LoadOptions (or bootargs) as a first parameter or that LoadOptions
is solely for Shell environment?

If so, should we do the same thing at bootefi?

> If UpdateVars.efi would work differently it could not be launched via
> the shell.

Well, I'm trying to run UpdateVars.efi in a standalone way
by invoking it directly from bootefi/bootmgr and it obviously fails
due to this issue.

Thanks,
-Takashiro Akashi


> Best regards
> 
> Heinrich

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* [U-Boot] efi_loader: LoadOptions (bootargs)
  2019-08-22 23:42   ` AKASHI Takahiro
@ 2019-09-11  6:14     ` AKASHI Takahiro
  2019-09-11 17:39       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: AKASHI Takahiro @ 2019-09-11  6:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

Heinrich,

On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 08:42:27AM +0900, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 07:53:46PM +0200, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> > On 8/22/19 11:03 AM, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> > >Heinrich,
> > >
> > >I'm now wondering whether LoadedImage's LoadOptions, which comes
> > >from "bootargs" variable, should contain a command(application) name
> > >as a first argument or not.
> > >
> > >When I tried some efi application (efitools), I found that it expected
> > >so. For example, efitools' UpdateVars.efi takes
> > >     Usage: UpdateVars.efi: [-g guid] [-a] [-e] [-b] var file
> > >
> > >and I had to passed arguments by specifying "foo db DB.auth" for
> > >"bootargs" where foo makes no sense.
> > >
> > >What do you think about this issue?
> > 
> > Do you relate to
> > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jejb/efitools.git?
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > This style of parsing LoadOptions is defined by the EFI shell. See
> > function ParseCommandLineToArgs() in
> > ShellPkg/Application/Shell/ShellParametersProtocol.c.
> 
> So do you mean that Shell.efi is responsible for adding a command name
> to LoadOptions (or bootargs) as a first parameter or that LoadOptions
> is solely for Shell environment?
> 
> If so, should we do the same thing at bootefi?

Any comment?

-Takahiro Akashi


> > If UpdateVars.efi would work differently it could not be launched via
> > the shell.
> 
> Well, I'm trying to run UpdateVars.efi in a standalone way
> by invoking it directly from bootefi/bootmgr and it obviously fails
> due to this issue.
> 
> Thanks,
> -Takashiro Akashi
> 
> 
> > Best regards
> > 
> > Heinrich

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* [U-Boot] efi_loader: LoadOptions (bootargs)
  2019-09-11  6:14     ` AKASHI Takahiro
@ 2019-09-11 17:39       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
  2019-09-12  0:31         ` AKASHI Takahiro
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Heinrich Schuchardt @ 2019-09-11 17:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

On 9/11/19 8:14 AM, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> Heinrich,
>
> On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 08:42:27AM +0900, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 07:53:46PM +0200, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
>>> On 8/22/19 11:03 AM, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
>>>> Heinrich,
>>>>
>>>> I'm now wondering whether LoadedImage's LoadOptions, which comes
>>> >from "bootargs" variable, should contain a command(application) name
>>>> as a first argument or not.
>>>>
>>>> When I tried some efi application (efitools), I found that it expected
>>>> so. For example, efitools' UpdateVars.efi takes
>>>>      Usage: UpdateVars.efi: [-g guid] [-a] [-e] [-b] var file
>>>>
>>>> and I had to passed arguments by specifying "foo db DB.auth" for
>>>> "bootargs" where foo makes no sense.
>>>>
>>>> What do you think about this issue?
>>>
>>> Do you relate to
>>> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jejb/efitools.git?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> This style of parsing LoadOptions is defined by the EFI shell. See
>>> function ParseCommandLineToArgs() in
>>> ShellPkg/Application/Shell/ShellParametersProtocol.c.
>>
>> So do you mean that Shell.efi is responsible for adding a command name
>> to LoadOptions (or bootargs) as a first parameter or that LoadOptions
>> is solely for Shell environment?

LoadOptions are used to communicate with any EFI binary including the
Linux kernels. Inside the EFI shell Shell.efi takes care of passing the
executable name as a first parameter.

If a user chooses to call an EFI binary which expects its own name as
first parameter via bootefi, the user should simply add it to
LoadOptions via 'setenv bootargs'.

I would not change anything in bootefi. Otherwise you start passing
'vmlinux' or 'grubaa64.efi' as command line arguments to Linux.

Best regards

Heinrich

>>
>> If so, should we do the same thing at bootefi?
>
> Any comment?
>
> -Takahiro Akashi
>
>
>>> If UpdateVars.efi would work differently it could not be launched via
>>> the shell.
>>
>> Well, I'm trying to run UpdateVars.efi in a standalone way
>> by invoking it directly from bootefi/bootmgr and it obviously fails
>> due to this issue.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Takashiro Akashi
>>
>>
>>> Best regards
>>>
>>> Heinrich
>

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* [U-Boot] efi_loader: LoadOptions (bootargs)
  2019-09-11 17:39       ` Heinrich Schuchardt
@ 2019-09-12  0:31         ` AKASHI Takahiro
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: AKASHI Takahiro @ 2019-09-12  0:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: u-boot

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 07:39:07PM +0200, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> On 9/11/19 8:14 AM, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> >Heinrich,
> >
> >On Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 08:42:27AM +0900, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> >>On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 07:53:46PM +0200, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> >>>On 8/22/19 11:03 AM, AKASHI Takahiro wrote:
> >>>>Heinrich,
> >>>>
> >>>>I'm now wondering whether LoadedImage's LoadOptions, which comes
> >>>>from "bootargs" variable, should contain a command(application) name
> >>>>as a first argument or not.
> >>>>
> >>>>When I tried some efi application (efitools), I found that it expected
> >>>>so. For example, efitools' UpdateVars.efi takes
> >>>>     Usage: UpdateVars.efi: [-g guid] [-a] [-e] [-b] var file
> >>>>
> >>>>and I had to passed arguments by specifying "foo db DB.auth" for
> >>>>"bootargs" where foo makes no sense.
> >>>>
> >>>>What do you think about this issue?
> >>>
> >>>Do you relate to
> >>>https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jejb/efitools.git?
> >>
> >>Yes.
> >>
> >>>This style of parsing LoadOptions is defined by the EFI shell. See
> >>>function ParseCommandLineToArgs() in
> >>>ShellPkg/Application/Shell/ShellParametersProtocol.c.
> >>
> >>So do you mean that Shell.efi is responsible for adding a command name
> >>to LoadOptions (or bootargs) as a first parameter or that LoadOptions
> >>is solely for Shell environment?
> 
> LoadOptions are used to communicate with any EFI binary including the
> Linux kernels. Inside the EFI shell Shell.efi takes care of passing the
> executable name as a first parameter.
> 
> If a user chooses to call an EFI binary which expects its own name as
> first parameter via bootefi, the user should simply add it to
> LoadOptions via 'setenv bootargs'.

Right, but
my concern is that a user normally doesn't care/know if an application
expects that it would be invoked from Shell or with Shell-style arguments.

> I would not change anything in bootefi. Otherwise you start passing
> 'vmlinux' or 'grubaa64.efi' as command line arguments to Linux.

How can users distinguish vmlinux or whatever else from
other apps that would expect Shell-style arguments in general?

-Takahiro Akashi


> Best regards
> 
> Heinrich
> 
> >>
> >>If so, should we do the same thing at bootefi?
> >
> >Any comment?
> >
> >-Takahiro Akashi
> >
> >
> >>>If UpdateVars.efi would work differently it could not be launched via
> >>>the shell.
> >>
> >>Well, I'm trying to run UpdateVars.efi in a standalone way
> >>by invoking it directly from bootefi/bootmgr and it obviously fails
> >>due to this issue.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>-Takashiro Akashi
> >>
> >>
> >>>Best regards
> >>>
> >>>Heinrich
> >
> 

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