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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Johannes Schindelin <Johannes.Schindelin@gmx.de>
Cc: "SZEDER Gábor" <szeder.dev@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, git@sfconservancy.org,
	"Derrick Stolee" <stolee@gmail.com>,
	"Emily Shaffer" <emilyshaffer@google.com>,
	"Jonathan Nieder" <jrnieder@gmail.com>,
	"Junio C Hamano" <gitster@pobox.com>,
	garimasigit@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] add a Code of Conduct document
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2019 11:50:36 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190924155036.GA5318@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.QRO.7.76.6.1909241426580.15067@tvgsbejvaqbjf.bet>

On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 03:20:42PM +0200, Johannes Schindelin wrote:

> > If diversity and inclusion of other cultures is indeed a priority,
> > then we should carefully consider that some potential contributors
> > will rather choose not to contribute because of a CoC like this.
> 
> Let me be blunt for a minute. The proposed CoC would not change anything
> for any contributor I consider decent. Not one thing. There would not be
> any need to change any behavior, no need to complain, they could just
> read the CoC and say: "Yep, that's right, that's exactly how I want to
> behave, and that's how I want the others in this project to behave. Back
> to this bug I wanted to debug/this feature I wanted to implement..."

Thanks for your response, Dscho. I was all set to reply to Gábor, but
you made all my points for me. :)

In particular, I think this paragraph is key. I don't think this CoC is
asking to change anything about how we work or communicate currently. I
view it as writing down the status quo (which is valuable for the
reasons I mentioned in the commit message).

(None of which is to say that people might not have disagreements that
need resolving, or that discussions about communication style aren't
welcome; just that I think the CoC is at a more meta level).

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2019-09-24 15:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-24  6:44 [PATCH] add a Code of Conduct document Jeff King
2019-09-24  9:01 ` SZEDER Gábor
2019-09-24 13:20   ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-09-24 15:50     ` Jeff King [this message]
2019-09-25  6:39     ` Daniel Stenberg
2019-09-24 14:40   ` Phillip Wood
2019-09-24 12:13 ` Derrick Stolee
2019-09-24 15:51   ` Jeff King
2019-09-24 14:13 ` Phillip Wood
2019-09-24 16:53 ` Garima Singh
2019-09-24 16:56   ` Deb Nicholson
2019-09-24 17:12 ` Denton Liu
2019-09-24 20:05   ` Pratyush Yadav
2019-09-24 20:10     ` Doug Maxey
2019-09-24 20:52     ` Jeff King
2019-09-24 20:46   ` Jeff King
2019-09-24 23:52   ` Emily Shaffer
2019-09-26  7:20     ` [PATCH] CODE_OF_CONDUCT: mention individual project-leader emails Jeff King
2019-09-26 12:16       ` Derrick Stolee
2019-09-26 21:37       ` Emily Shaffer
2019-09-27 18:58       ` CB Bailey
2019-09-24 17:23 ` [PATCH] add a Code of Conduct document Jonathan Tan
2019-09-24 17:40 ` Thomas Gummerer
2019-09-24 20:14 ` René Scharfe
2019-09-24 21:09   ` Jeff King
2019-09-25 12:34     ` Johannes Schindelin
2019-09-24 23:37 ` brian m. carlson
2019-09-26 17:42 ` Elijah Newren

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