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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>, Lianbo Jiang <lijiang@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com, x86@kernel.org,
	jgross@suse.com, dhowells@redhat.com, Thomas.Lendacky@amd.com,
	kexec@lists.infradead.org, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/kdump: Fix 'kmem -s' reported an invalid freepointer when SME was active
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 15:40:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191001074012.GK31919@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zhimks5j.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

On 09/30/19 at 05:14am, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com> writes:
> >> needs a little better description.  I know it is not a lot on modern
> >> systems but reserving an extra 1M of memory to avoid having to special
> >> case it later seems in need of calling out.
> >> 
> >> I have an old system around that I think that 640K is about 25% of
> >> memory.
> >
> > Understood. Basically 640K is wasted in this case. But we only do like
> > this in SME case, a condition checking is added. And system with SME is
> > pretty new model, it may not impact the old system.
> 
> The conditional really should be based on if we are reserving memory
> for a kdump kernel.  AKA if crash_kernel=XXX is specified on the kernel
> command line.
> 
> At which point I think it would be very reasonable to unconditionally
> reserve the low 640k, and make the whole thing a non-issue.  This would
> allow the kdump code to just not do anything special for any of the
> weird special case.
> 
> It isn't perfect because we need a page or so used in the first kernel
> for bootstrapping the secondary cpus, but that seems like the least of
> evils.  Especially as no one will DMA to that memory.
> 
> So please let's just change what memory we reserve when crash_kernel is
> specified.

Yes, makes sense, thanks for pointing it out.

> 
> >> How we interact with BIOS tables in the first 640k needs some
> >> explanation.  Both in the first kernel and in the crash kernel.
> >
> > Yes, totally agree.
> >
> > Those BIOS tables have been reserved as e820 reserved regions and will
> > be passed to kdump kernel for reusing. Memblock reserved 640K doesn't
> > mean it will cover the whole [0, 640K) region, it only searches for
> > available system RAM from memblock allocator.
> 
> Careful with that assumption.  My memory is that the e820 memory map
> frequently fails to cover areas like the real mode interrupt descriptor
> table at address 0.

OK, will think more about this. Thanks.

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From: Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com>
To: "Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: jgross@suse.com, Thomas.Lendacky@amd.com,
	Lianbo Jiang <lijiang@redhat.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dhowells@redhat.com,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de, hpa@zytor.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86/kdump: Fix 'kmem -s' reported an invalid freepointer when SME was active
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2019 15:40:12 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191001074012.GK31919@MiWiFi-R3L-srv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87zhimks5j.fsf@x220.int.ebiederm.org>

On 09/30/19 at 05:14am, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> Baoquan He <bhe@redhat.com> writes:
> >> needs a little better description.  I know it is not a lot on modern
> >> systems but reserving an extra 1M of memory to avoid having to special
> >> case it later seems in need of calling out.
> >> 
> >> I have an old system around that I think that 640K is about 25% of
> >> memory.
> >
> > Understood. Basically 640K is wasted in this case. But we only do like
> > this in SME case, a condition checking is added. And system with SME is
> > pretty new model, it may not impact the old system.
> 
> The conditional really should be based on if we are reserving memory
> for a kdump kernel.  AKA if crash_kernel=XXX is specified on the kernel
> command line.
> 
> At which point I think it would be very reasonable to unconditionally
> reserve the low 640k, and make the whole thing a non-issue.  This would
> allow the kdump code to just not do anything special for any of the
> weird special case.
> 
> It isn't perfect because we need a page or so used in the first kernel
> for bootstrapping the secondary cpus, but that seems like the least of
> evils.  Especially as no one will DMA to that memory.
> 
> So please let's just change what memory we reserve when crash_kernel is
> specified.

Yes, makes sense, thanks for pointing it out.

> 
> >> How we interact with BIOS tables in the first 640k needs some
> >> explanation.  Both in the first kernel and in the crash kernel.
> >
> > Yes, totally agree.
> >
> > Those BIOS tables have been reserved as e820 reserved regions and will
> > be passed to kdump kernel for reusing. Memblock reserved 640K doesn't
> > mean it will cover the whole [0, 640K) region, it only searches for
> > available system RAM from memblock allocator.
> 
> Careful with that assumption.  My memory is that the e820 memory map
> frequently fails to cover areas like the real mode interrupt descriptor
> table at address 0.

OK, will think more about this. Thanks.

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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-09-20  3:53 [PATCH] x86/kdump: Fix 'kmem -s' reported an invalid freepointer when SME was active Lianbo Jiang
2019-09-27  5:15 ` Dave Young
2019-09-27  5:15   ` Dave Young
2019-09-27 20:49   ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-27 20:49     ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-27 23:51     ` Baoquan He
2019-09-27 23:51       ` Baoquan He
2019-09-28  0:05     ` Baoquan He
2019-09-28  0:05       ` Baoquan He
2019-09-28  2:32       ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-28  2:32         ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-28  3:09         ` Baoquan He
2019-09-28  3:09           ` Baoquan He
2019-09-30 10:14           ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-09-30 10:14             ` Eric W. Biederman
2019-10-01  7:40             ` Baoquan He [this message]
2019-10-01  7:40               ` Baoquan He
2019-10-05  7:35               ` lijiang
2019-10-05  7:35                 ` lijiang

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