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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	Kim Boojin <boojin.kim@samsung.com>,
	Kuohong Wang <kuohong.wang@mediatek.com>,
	Barani Muthukumaran <bmuthuku@qti.qualcomm.com>,
	Satya Tangirala <satyat@google.com>,
	linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3/9] block: blk-crypto for Inline Encryption
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 07:39:57 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191105153957.GA29320@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191105015411.GB692@sol.localdomain>

On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 06:01:17PM -0800, Eric Biggers wrote:
> I think that "Severely bloating the per-I/O data structure" is an exaggeration,
> since that it's only 32 bytes, and it isn't in struct bio directly but rather in
> struct bio_crypt_ctx...

Yes, and none of that is needed for the real inline crypto.  And I think
we can further reduce the overhead of bio_crypt_ctx once we have the
basiscs sorted out.  If we want to gain more traction we need to reduce
the I/O to a minimum.

> In any case, Satya, it might be a good idea to reorganize this patchset so that
> it first adds all logic that's needed for "real" inline encryption support
> (including the needed parts of blk-crypto.c), then adds the crypto API fallback
> as a separate patch.  That would separate the concerns more cleanly and make the
> patchset easier to review, and make it easier to make the fallback
> de-configurable or even remove it entirely if that turns out to be needed.

Yes, that is a good idea.  Not just in terms of patch, but also in terms
of code organization.  The current structure is pretty weird with 3
files that are mostly tighly integrated, except that one also has the
software implementations.  So what I think we need at a minimum is:

 - reoranizize that we have say block/blk-crypt.c for all the inline
   crypto infrastructure, and block/blk-crypy-sw.c for the actual
   software crypto implementation.
 - remove all the fields only needed for software crypto from
   bio_crypt_ctx, and instead clone the bio into a bioset with the
   additional fields only when we use the software implementation, so
   that there is no overhead for the hardware path.

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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	Kim Boojin <boojin.kim@samsung.com>,
	Kuohong Wang <kuohong.wang@mediatek.com>,
	Barani Muthukumaran <bmuthuku@qti.qualcomm.com>,
	Satya Tangirala <satyat@google.com>,
	linux-fscrypt@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [f2fs-dev] [PATCH v5 3/9] block: blk-crypto for Inline Encryption
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 07:39:57 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191105153957.GA29320@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20191105015411.GB692@sol.localdomain>

On Mon, Nov 04, 2019 at 06:01:17PM -0800, Eric Biggers wrote:
> I think that "Severely bloating the per-I/O data structure" is an exaggeration,
> since that it's only 32 bytes, and it isn't in struct bio directly but rather in
> struct bio_crypt_ctx...

Yes, and none of that is needed for the real inline crypto.  And I think
we can further reduce the overhead of bio_crypt_ctx once we have the
basiscs sorted out.  If we want to gain more traction we need to reduce
the I/O to a minimum.

> In any case, Satya, it might be a good idea to reorganize this patchset so that
> it first adds all logic that's needed for "real" inline encryption support
> (including the needed parts of blk-crypto.c), then adds the crypto API fallback
> as a separate patch.  That would separate the concerns more cleanly and make the
> patchset easier to review, and make it easier to make the fallback
> de-configurable or even remove it entirely if that turns out to be needed.

Yes, that is a good idea.  Not just in terms of patch, but also in terms
of code organization.  The current structure is pretty weird with 3
files that are mostly tighly integrated, except that one also has the
software implementations.  So what I think we need at a minimum is:

 - reoranizize that we have say block/blk-crypt.c for all the inline
   crypto infrastructure, and block/blk-crypy-sw.c for the actual
   software crypto implementation.
 - remove all the fields only needed for software crypto from
   bio_crypt_ctx, and instead clone the bio into a bioset with the
   additional fields only when we use the software implementation, so
   that there is no overhead for the hardware path.


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  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-05 15:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-28  7:20 [PATCH v5 0/9] Inline Encryption Support Satya Tangirala
2019-10-28  7:20 ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-10-28  7:20 ` [PATCH v5 1/9] block: Keyslot Manager for Inline Encryption Satya Tangirala
2019-10-28  7:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-10-31 18:04   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-31 18:04     ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-28  7:20 ` [PATCH v5 2/9] block: Add encryption context to struct bio Satya Tangirala
2019-10-28  7:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-10-31 18:16   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-31 18:16     ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-28  7:20 ` [PATCH v5 3/9] block: blk-crypto for Inline Encryption Satya Tangirala
2019-10-28  7:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-10-31 17:57   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-31 17:57     ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-31 20:50     ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-31 20:50       ` [f2fs-dev] " Theodore Y. Ts'o
2019-10-31 21:22       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-31 21:22         ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-11-05  2:01         ` Eric Biggers
2019-11-05  2:01           ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-11-05 15:39           ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2019-11-05 15:39             ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-28  7:20 ` [PATCH v5 4/9] scsi: ufs: UFS driver v2.1 spec crypto additions Satya Tangirala
2019-10-28  7:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-10-28  7:20 ` [PATCH v5 5/9] scsi: ufs: UFS crypto API Satya Tangirala
2019-10-28  7:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-10-31 18:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-31 18:23     ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-28  7:20 ` [PATCH v5 6/9] scsi: ufs: Add inline encryption support to UFS Satya Tangirala
2019-10-28  7:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-10-31 18:26   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-31 18:26     ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-28  7:20 ` [PATCH v5 7/9] fscrypt: add inline encryption support Satya Tangirala
2019-10-28  7:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-10-31 18:32   ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-31 18:32     ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-31 20:21     ` Eric Biggers
2019-10-31 20:21       ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-10-31 21:21       ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-31 21:21         ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-10-31 22:25         ` Eric Biggers
2019-10-31 22:25           ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-11-05  0:15           ` Christoph Hellwig
2019-11-05  0:15             ` [f2fs-dev] " Christoph Hellwig
2019-11-05  1:03             ` Eric Biggers
2019-11-05  1:03               ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-11-05  3:12         ` Eric Biggers
2019-11-05  3:12           ` [f2fs-dev] " Eric Biggers
2019-10-28  7:20 ` [PATCH v5 8/9] f2fs: " Satya Tangirala
2019-10-28  7:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel
2019-10-31 17:14   ` Jaegeuk Kim
2019-10-31 17:14     ` [f2fs-dev] " Jaegeuk Kim
2019-10-28  7:20 ` [PATCH v5 9/9] ext4: " Satya Tangirala
2019-10-28  7:20   ` [f2fs-dev] " Satya Tangirala via Linux-f2fs-devel

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