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* Can we retire Python 2 now?
@ 2019-12-20 16:29 ` Markus Armbruster
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Markus Armbruster @ 2019-12-20 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: qemu-devel
  Cc: Paolo Bonzini, Marcelo Tosatti, Stefan Hajnoczi, Peter Maydell,
	Eduardo Habkost, Cleber Rosa, Richard Henderson,
	Marc-André Lureau, Michael Roth, Fam Zheng, Juan Quintela,
	Dr. David Alan Gilbert, Aurelien Jarno, Aleksandar Markovic,
	Aleksandar Rikalo, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé,
	Fabien Chouteau, KONRAD Frederic, Hervé Poussineau,
	Alex Bennée, Kevin Wolf, Max Reitz, kvm, qemu-block,
	qemu-ppc

Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*].  We made configure bitch about
it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01.  Any
objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?

Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
a Python script.

[*] https://pythonclock.org/


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* Can we retire Python 2 now?
@ 2019-12-20 16:29 ` Markus Armbruster
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Markus Armbruster @ 2019-12-20 16:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: qemu-devel
  Cc: Fam Zheng, Peter Maydell, kvm, KONRAD Frederic, qemu-block,
	Juan Quintela, Michael Roth, Hervé Poussineau,
	Marc-André Lureau, Aleksandar Rikalo,
	Philippe Mathieu-Daudé,
	Eduardo Habkost, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, Fabien Chouteau,
	Stefan Hajnoczi, Cleber Rosa, Alex Bennée,
	Richard Henderson, Kevin Wolf, Marcelo Tosatti, Max Reitz,
	qemu-ppc, Aleksandar Markovic, Paolo Bonzini, Aurelien Jarno

Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*].  We made configure bitch about
it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01.  Any
objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?

Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
a Python script.

[*] https://pythonclock.org/



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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
  2019-12-20 16:29 ` Markus Armbruster
@ 2019-12-20 16:56   ` Eduardo Habkost
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eduardo Habkost @ 2019-12-20 16:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Markus Armbruster
  Cc: qemu-devel, Paolo Bonzini, Marcelo Tosatti, Stefan Hajnoczi,
	Peter Maydell, Cleber Rosa, Richard Henderson,
	Marc-André Lureau, Michael Roth, Fam Zheng, Juan Quintela,
	Dr. David Alan Gilbert, Aurelien Jarno, Aleksandar Markovic,
	Aleksandar Rikalo, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé,
	Fabien Chouteau, KONRAD Frederic, Hervé Poussineau,
	Alex Bennée, Kevin Wolf, Max Reitz, kvm, qemu-block,
	qemu-ppc

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 05:29:30PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*].  We made configure bitch about
> it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01.  Any
> objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?

Thanks for the reminder!

I'll be honest: even if somebody in this list objects to dropping
Python 2 support, I'm not willing to be maintainer of a Python 2
codebase in 2020.  The only reason for not doing it in 4.1 was
the tests/vm/netbsd breakage we took very long to debug and fix.

I have just submitted this pull request:

  Subject: [PULL 0/2] Require Python >= 3.5 to build QEMU
  https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20191220165141.2207058-1-ehabkost@redhat.com/

> 
> Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
> a Python script.
> 
> [*] https://pythonclock.org/

-- 
Eduardo


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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
@ 2019-12-20 16:56   ` Eduardo Habkost
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Eduardo Habkost @ 2019-12-20 16:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Markus Armbruster
  Cc: Fam Zheng, Peter Maydell, kvm, qemu-devel, KONRAD Frederic,
	qemu-block, Juan Quintela, Michael Roth, Hervé Poussineau,
	Marc-André Lureau, Aleksandar Rikalo,
	Philippe Mathieu-Daudé,
	Dr. David Alan Gilbert, Fabien Chouteau, Stefan Hajnoczi,
	Cleber Rosa, Alex Bennée, Richard Henderson, Kevin Wolf,
	Marcelo Tosatti, Max Reitz, qemu-ppc, Aleksandar Markovic,
	Paolo Bonzini, Aurelien Jarno

On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 05:29:30PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*].  We made configure bitch about
> it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01.  Any
> objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?

Thanks for the reminder!

I'll be honest: even if somebody in this list objects to dropping
Python 2 support, I'm not willing to be maintainer of a Python 2
codebase in 2020.  The only reason for not doing it in 4.1 was
the tests/vm/netbsd breakage we took very long to debug and fix.

I have just submitted this pull request:

  Subject: [PULL 0/2] Require Python >= 3.5 to build QEMU
  https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20191220165141.2207058-1-ehabkost@redhat.com/

> 
> Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
> a Python script.
> 
> [*] https://pythonclock.org/

-- 
Eduardo



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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
  2019-12-20 16:29 ` Markus Armbruster
@ 2019-12-20 18:56   ` Juan Quintela
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Juan Quintela @ 2019-12-20 18:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Markus Armbruster
  Cc: qemu-devel, Paolo Bonzini, Marcelo Tosatti, Stefan Hajnoczi,
	Peter Maydell, Eduardo Habkost, Cleber Rosa, Richard Henderson,
	Marc-André Lureau, Michael Roth, Fam Zheng,
	Dr. David Alan Gilbert, Aurelien Jarno, Aleksandar Markovic,
	Aleksandar Rikalo, Philippe Mathieu-Daudé,
	Fabien Chouteau, KONRAD Frederic, Hervé Poussineau,
	Alex Bennée, Kevin Wolf, Max Reitz, kvm, qemu-block,
	qemu-ppc

Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*].  We made configure bitch about
> it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01.  Any
> objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?
>
> Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
> a Python script.
>
> [*] https://pythonclock.org/

I am pretty sure that I am not a python maintaainer at all.

But anyways, python3 is only at python3.7.
python3.0 debuted at 2008, so ...

Acked-by: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Reviewed-by: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>

And anything else that you can think that endorses the change.

Later, Juan.


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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
@ 2019-12-20 18:56   ` Juan Quintela
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Juan Quintela @ 2019-12-20 18:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Markus Armbruster
  Cc: Fam Zheng, Peter Maydell, kvm, qemu-devel, KONRAD Frederic,
	qemu-block, Michael Roth, Hervé Poussineau,
	Marc-André Lureau, Aleksandar Rikalo,
	Philippe Mathieu-Daudé,
	Eduardo Habkost, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, Fabien Chouteau,
	Stefan Hajnoczi, Cleber Rosa, Alex Bennée,
	Richard Henderson, Kevin Wolf, Marcelo Tosatti, Max Reitz,
	qemu-ppc, Aleksandar Markovic, Paolo Bonzini, Aurelien Jarno

Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
> Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*].  We made configure bitch about
> it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01.  Any
> objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?
>
> Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
> a Python script.
>
> [*] https://pythonclock.org/

I am pretty sure that I am not a python maintaainer at all.

But anyways, python3 is only at python3.7.
python3.0 debuted at 2008, so ...

Acked-by: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>
Reviewed-by: Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com>

And anything else that you can think that endorses the change.

Later, Juan.



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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
  2019-12-20 18:56   ` Juan Quintela
  (?)
@ 2019-12-21  7:57   ` Markus Armbruster
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Markus Armbruster @ 2019-12-21  7:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Juan Quintela; +Cc: qemu-devel

Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com> writes:

> Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
>> Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*].  We made configure bitch about
>> it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01.  Any
>> objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?
>>
>> Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
>> a Python script.
>>
>> [*] https://pythonclock.org/
>
> I am pretty sure that I am not a python maintaainer at all.

You are:

    $ scripts/get_maintainer.pl -f scripts/vmstate-static-checker.py
    Juan Quintela <quintela@redhat.com> (maintainer:Migration)
    "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com> (maintainer:Migration)
    Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> (odd fixer:Python scripts)
    Cleber Rosa <crosa@redhat.com> (odd fixer:Python scripts)
    qemu-devel@nongnu.org (open list:All patches CC here)

Resistance is futile!

[...]



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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
  2019-12-20 16:56   ` Eduardo Habkost
  (?)
@ 2019-12-21  7:59   ` Markus Armbruster
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Markus Armbruster @ 2019-12-21  7:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eduardo Habkost; +Cc: qemu-devel

Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com> writes:

> On Fri, Dec 20, 2019 at 05:29:30PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>> Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*].  We made configure bitch about
>> it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01.  Any
>> objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?
>
> Thanks for the reminder!
>
> I'll be honest: even if somebody in this list objects to dropping
> Python 2 support, I'm not willing to be maintainer of a Python 2
> codebase in 2020.  The only reason for not doing it in 4.1 was
> the tests/vm/netbsd breakage we took very long to debug and fix.

I wasn't exactly "willing" in 2019...

> I have just submitted this pull request:
>
>   Subject: [PULL 0/2] Require Python >= 3.5 to build QEMU
>   https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20191220165141.2207058-1-ehabkost@redhat.com/

Awesome, thanks!



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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
  2019-12-20 16:29 ` Markus Armbruster
@ 2019-12-21 13:43   ` Paolo Bonzini
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2019-12-21 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Markus Armbruster, qemu-devel
  Cc: Marcelo Tosatti, Stefan Hajnoczi, Peter Maydell, Eduardo Habkost,
	Cleber Rosa, Richard Henderson, Marc-André Lureau,
	Michael Roth, Fam Zheng, Juan Quintela, Dr. David Alan Gilbert,
	Aurelien Jarno, Aleksandar Markovic, Aleksandar Rikalo,
	Philippe Mathieu-Daudé,
	Fabien Chouteau, KONRAD Frederic, Hervé Poussineau,
	Alex Bennée, Kevin Wolf, Max Reitz, kvm, qemu-block,
	qemu-ppc

On 20/12/19 17:29, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*].  We made configure bitch about
> it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01.  Any
> objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?
> 
> Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
> a Python script.
> 
> [*] https://pythonclock.org/

Fortunately Betteridge's law of headlines is not always true.  :)

Paolo


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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
@ 2019-12-21 13:43   ` Paolo Bonzini
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Paolo Bonzini @ 2019-12-21 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Markus Armbruster, qemu-devel
  Cc: Fam Zheng, Peter Maydell, kvm, KONRAD Frederic, qemu-block,
	Juan Quintela, Michael Roth, Hervé Poussineau,
	Marc-André Lureau, Aleksandar Rikalo,
	Philippe Mathieu-Daudé,
	Eduardo Habkost, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, Fabien Chouteau,
	Stefan Hajnoczi, Cleber Rosa, Alex Bennée,
	Richard Henderson, Kevin Wolf, Marcelo Tosatti, Max Reitz,
	qemu-ppc, Aleksandar Markovic, Aurelien Jarno

On 20/12/19 17:29, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*].  We made configure bitch about
> it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01.  Any
> objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?
> 
> Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
> a Python script.
> 
> [*] https://pythonclock.org/

Fortunately Betteridge's law of headlines is not always true.  :)

Paolo



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* Re: Can we retire Python 2 now?
  2019-12-21 13:43   ` Paolo Bonzini
  (?)
@ 2019-12-21 18:10   ` Aleksandar Markovic
  -1 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Aleksandar Markovic @ 2019-12-21 18:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Paolo Bonzini
  Cc: Fam Zheng, Peter Maydell, kvm, qemu-devel, Michael Roth,
	KONRAD Frederic, qemu-block, Juan Quintela, Markus Armbruster,
	Hervé Poussineau, Marc-André Lureau, Aleksandar Rikalo,
	Philippe Mathieu-Daudé,
	Eduardo Habkost, Dr. David Alan Gilbert, Fabien Chouteau,
	Stefan Hajnoczi, Cleber Rosa, Alex Bennée,
	Richard Henderson, Kevin Wolf, Marcelo Tosatti, Max Reitz,
	qemu-ppc, Aleksandar Markovic, Aurelien Jarno

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On Saturday, December 21, 2019, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com> wrote:

> On 20/12/19 17:29, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> > Python 2 EOL is only a few days away[*].  We made configure bitch about
> > it in commit e5abf59eae "Deprecate Python 2 support", 2019-07-01.  Any
> > objections to retiring it now, i.e. in 5.0?
> >
> > Cc'ing everyone who appears to be maintaining something that looks like
> > a Python script.
> >
> > [*] https://pythonclock.org/
>
> Fortunately Betteridge's law of headlines is not always true.  :)
>
>
Perhaps we can formulate a new law that says:

"Any person who says that he/she is pretty sure he/she is not a maintainer
of something at all, is, in fact, and for sure, the maintainer of that
thing."

:)

Aleksandar

Paolo
>
>
>

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