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From: Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>
To: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
Cc: Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Sean Paul <seanpaul@chromium.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] drm/trace: Buffer DRM logs in a ringbuffer accessible via debugfs
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 09:21:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200115142118.GD25564@art_vandelay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <157909687975.14122.1932646175287417072@skylake-alporthouse-com>

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 02:01:19PM +0000, Chris Wilson wrote:
> Quoting Sean Paul (2020-01-15 13:41:58)
> > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:36:36AM +0000, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > > Quoting Sean Paul (2020-01-14 17:21:43)
> > > > From: Sean Paul <seanpaul@chromium.org>
> > > > 
> > > > This patch uses a ring_buffer to keep a "flight recorder" (name credit Weston)
> > > > of DRM logs for a specified set of debug categories. The user writes a
> > > > bitmask of debug categories to the "trace_mask" node and can read log
> > > > messages from the "trace" node.
> > > > 
> > > > These nodes currently exist in debugfs under the dri directory. I
> > > > intended on exposing all of this through tracefs originally, but the
> > > > tracefs entry points are not exposed, so there's no way to create
> > > > tracefs files from drivers at the moment. I think it would be a
> > > > worthwhile endeavour, but one requiring more time and conversation to
> > > > ensure the drm traces fit somewhere sensible.
> > > 
> > > Fwiw, I have a need for client orientated debug message store, with
> > > the primary purpose of figuring out -EINVAL. We need per-client so we can
> > > put sensitive information about the potentially buggy client behaviour,
> > > and of course it needs to be accessible by the non-privileged client.
> > > 
> > > On the execution side, it's easy to keep track of the client so we could
> > > trace execution flow per client, within reason. And we could do
> > > similarly for kms clients.
> > 
> > Could you build such a thing with drm_trace underpinning it, just put the
> > pertinent information in the message?
> 
> Not as is. The global has to go, and there's no use for debugfs. So we
> are just left with a sprintf() around a ring_buffer. I am left in the
> same position as just wanting to generalise tracek to take the ringbuffer
> as a parameter.
> 

Ah, I think I see what you're getting at now. I think it would be reasonable to
split out a drm_trace_buffer from the current code for this purpose. We could
have an interface like:

struct drm_trace_buffer *drm_trace_buffer_init(unsigned int num_pages);
int drm_trace_buffer_resize(struct drm_trace_buffer *buf, unsigned int num_pages);
int drm_trace_buffer_printf(struct drm_trace_buffer *buf, const char *format, ...);
int drm_trace_buffer_output(struct seq_file *seq);
void drm_trace_buffer_cleanup(struct drm_trace_buffer *buf);

Then to Joonas' point, we could have drm_trace_log which uses this interface to
mirror the logs with a debugfs interface.

Would that work for your purpose?


> > > Just chiming to say, I don't think a duplicate of dmesg hidden inside
> > > debugfs achieves much. But a generic tracek-esque ringbuf would be very
> > > useful -- even if only so we can separate our GEM_TRACE from the global
> > > tracek.
> > 
> > I think that's essentially what we've got, I've just narrowly focused on
> > surfacing debug logs. If drm_trace_printf were exported, replacing
> > GEM_TRACE would be as simple as s/trace_printk/drm_trace_printf/. Initially I
> > thought exporting it to drivers would be a bad idea, but I'm open to changing my
> > mind on this as long as drivers are using it responsibly. 
> 
> I definitely can't make the mistake of flooding kms tracing with
> overwhelming execution traces -- we can't go back to mixing kms traces
> with execution traces.

Yeah, I assumed this wouldn't be enabled during normal operation, just for
debugging (as it is used now).

Sean

> -Chris

-- 
Sean Paul, Software Engineer, Google / Chromium OS

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From: Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>
To: Chris Wilson <chris@chris-wilson.co.uk>
Cc: linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Sean Paul <seanpaul@chromium.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Thomas Zimmermann <tzimmermann@suse.de>,
	Sean Paul <sean@poorly.run>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4] drm/trace: Buffer DRM logs in a ringbuffer accessible via debugfs
Date: Wed, 15 Jan 2020 09:21:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200115142118.GD25564@art_vandelay> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <157909687975.14122.1932646175287417072@skylake-alporthouse-com>

On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 02:01:19PM +0000, Chris Wilson wrote:
> Quoting Sean Paul (2020-01-15 13:41:58)
> > On Wed, Jan 15, 2020 at 10:36:36AM +0000, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > > Quoting Sean Paul (2020-01-14 17:21:43)
> > > > From: Sean Paul <seanpaul@chromium.org>
> > > > 
> > > > This patch uses a ring_buffer to keep a "flight recorder" (name credit Weston)
> > > > of DRM logs for a specified set of debug categories. The user writes a
> > > > bitmask of debug categories to the "trace_mask" node and can read log
> > > > messages from the "trace" node.
> > > > 
> > > > These nodes currently exist in debugfs under the dri directory. I
> > > > intended on exposing all of this through tracefs originally, but the
> > > > tracefs entry points are not exposed, so there's no way to create
> > > > tracefs files from drivers at the moment. I think it would be a
> > > > worthwhile endeavour, but one requiring more time and conversation to
> > > > ensure the drm traces fit somewhere sensible.
> > > 
> > > Fwiw, I have a need for client orientated debug message store, with
> > > the primary purpose of figuring out -EINVAL. We need per-client so we can
> > > put sensitive information about the potentially buggy client behaviour,
> > > and of course it needs to be accessible by the non-privileged client.
> > > 
> > > On the execution side, it's easy to keep track of the client so we could
> > > trace execution flow per client, within reason. And we could do
> > > similarly for kms clients.
> > 
> > Could you build such a thing with drm_trace underpinning it, just put the
> > pertinent information in the message?
> 
> Not as is. The global has to go, and there's no use for debugfs. So we
> are just left with a sprintf() around a ring_buffer. I am left in the
> same position as just wanting to generalise tracek to take the ringbuffer
> as a parameter.
> 

Ah, I think I see what you're getting at now. I think it would be reasonable to
split out a drm_trace_buffer from the current code for this purpose. We could
have an interface like:

struct drm_trace_buffer *drm_trace_buffer_init(unsigned int num_pages);
int drm_trace_buffer_resize(struct drm_trace_buffer *buf, unsigned int num_pages);
int drm_trace_buffer_printf(struct drm_trace_buffer *buf, const char *format, ...);
int drm_trace_buffer_output(struct seq_file *seq);
void drm_trace_buffer_cleanup(struct drm_trace_buffer *buf);

Then to Joonas' point, we could have drm_trace_log which uses this interface to
mirror the logs with a debugfs interface.

Would that work for your purpose?


> > > Just chiming to say, I don't think a duplicate of dmesg hidden inside
> > > debugfs achieves much. But a generic tracek-esque ringbuf would be very
> > > useful -- even if only so we can separate our GEM_TRACE from the global
> > > tracek.
> > 
> > I think that's essentially what we've got, I've just narrowly focused on
> > surfacing debug logs. If drm_trace_printf were exported, replacing
> > GEM_TRACE would be as simple as s/trace_printk/drm_trace_printf/. Initially I
> > thought exporting it to drivers would be a bad idea, but I'm open to changing my
> > mind on this as long as drivers are using it responsibly. 
> 
> I definitely can't make the mistake of flooding kms tracing with
> overwhelming execution traces -- we can't go back to mixing kms traces
> with execution traces.

Yeah, I assumed this wouldn't be enabled during normal operation, just for
debugging (as it is used now).

Sean

> -Chris

-- 
Sean Paul, Software Engineer, Google / Chromium OS
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  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-15 14:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-14 17:21 [PATCH v4] drm/trace: Buffer DRM logs in a ringbuffer accessible via debugfs Sean Paul
2020-01-14 17:21 ` Sean Paul
2020-01-14 17:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2020-01-14 17:30   ` Steven Rostedt
2020-01-15  9:25 ` Joonas Lahtinen
2020-01-15 10:14 ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-01-15 10:14   ` Pekka Paalanen
2020-01-15 13:31   ` Sean Paul
2020-01-15 13:31     ` Sean Paul
2020-01-15 10:28 ` Jani Nikula
2020-01-15 10:28   ` Jani Nikula
2020-01-15 13:34   ` Sean Paul
2020-01-15 13:34     ` Sean Paul
2020-01-15 10:36 ` Chris Wilson
2020-01-15 10:36   ` Chris Wilson
2020-01-15 13:41   ` Sean Paul
2020-01-15 13:41     ` Sean Paul
2020-01-15 14:01     ` Chris Wilson
2020-01-15 14:01       ` Chris Wilson
2020-01-15 14:21       ` Sean Paul [this message]
2020-01-15 14:21         ` Sean Paul
2020-01-15 17:38         ` Chris Wilson
2020-01-15 17:38           ` Chris Wilson
2020-01-15 18:29           ` Sean Paul
2020-01-15 18:29             ` Sean Paul
2020-01-16  6:27 ` Daniel Vetter
2020-01-16  6:27   ` Daniel Vetter
2020-01-20 18:56   ` Steven Rostedt
2020-01-20 18:56     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-01-22  8:06     ` Daniel Vetter
2020-01-22  8:06       ` Daniel Vetter
2020-01-22 15:39       ` Sean Paul
2020-01-22 15:39         ` Sean Paul
2020-01-27  8:58         ` Daniel Vetter
2020-01-27  8:58           ` Daniel Vetter

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