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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	qemu-block@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>,
	Max Reitz <mreitz@redhat.com>, John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots
Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 14:43:30 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200224144330.GR635661@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ftf9s8ho.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 01:28:51PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > Am 15.02.2020 um 15:51 hat Markus Armbruster geschrieben:
> >> Review of this patch led to a lengthy QAPI schema design discussion.
> >> Let me try to condense it into a concrete proposal.
> >> 
> >> This is about the QAPI schema, and therefore about QMP.  The
> >> human-friendly interface is out of scope.  Not because it's not
> >> important (it clearly is!), only because we need to *focus* to have a
> >> chance at success.
> >> 
> >> I'm going to include a few design options.  I'll mark them "Option:".
> >> 
> >> The proposed "amend" interface takes a specification of desired state,
> >> and figures out how to get from here to there by itself.  LUKS keyslots
> >> are one part of desired state.
> >> 
> >> We commonly have eight LUKS keyslots.  Each keyslot is either active or
> >> inactive.  An active keyslot holds a secret.
> >> 
> >> Goal: a QAPI type for specifying desired state of LUKS keyslots.
> >> 
> >> Proposal:
> >> 
> >>     { 'enum': 'LUKSKeyslotState',
> >>       'data': [ 'active', 'inactive' ] }
> >> 
> >>     { 'struct': 'LUKSKeyslotActive',
> >>       'data': { 'secret': 'str',
> >>                 '*iter-time': 'int } }
> >> 
> >>     { 'struct': 'LUKSKeyslotInactive',
> >>       'data': { '*old-secret': 'str' } }
> >> 
> >>     { 'union': 'LUKSKeyslotAmend',
> >>       'base': { '*keyslot': 'int',
> >>                 'state': 'LUKSKeyslotState' }
> >>       'discriminator': 'state',
> >>       'data': { 'active': 'LUKSKeyslotActive',
> >>                 'inactive': 'LUKSKeyslotInactive' } }
> >> 
> >> LUKSKeyslotAmend specifies desired state for a set of keyslots.
> >
> > Though not arbitrary sets of keyslots, it's only a single keyslot or
> > multiple keyslots containing the same secret. Might be good enough in
> > practice, though it means that you may have to issue multiple amend
> > commands to get to the final state that you really want (even if doing
> > everything at once would be safe).
> 
> True.  I traded expressiveness for simplicity.
> 
> Here's the only practical case I can think of where the lack of
> expressiveness may hurt: replace secrets.
> 
> With this interface, you need two operations: activate a free slot with
> the new secret, deactivate the slot(s) with the old secret.  There is an
> intermediate state with both secrets active.
> 
> A more expressive interface could let you do both in one step.  Relevant
> only if the implementation actually provides atomicity.  Can it?

This restriction is already present in the the long standing
cryptsetup command, so I don't think it is a big deal. Or to
put it another way I don't see a compelling justification for
why QEMU needs to be special and do it in op.


Regards,
Daniel
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-02-24 14:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-14 19:33 [PATCH 00/13] LUKS: encryption slot management using amend interface Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 01/13] qcrypto: add generic infrastructure for crypto options amendment Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 16:59   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-29 17:49     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-21  7:54   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-21 13:13     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:11       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-28 17:32         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-29 17:54           ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-30 12:38           ` Kevin Wolf
2020-01-30 12:53             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 14:23               ` Kevin Wolf
2020-01-30 14:30                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 14:53                 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-30 14:47               ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-30 15:01                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:37                   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-05  8:24                     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-05  9:30                       ` Kevin Wolf
2020-02-05 10:03                         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-05 11:02                           ` Kevin Wolf
2020-02-05 14:31                             ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 13:44                               ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 13:49                                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-06 14:20                                   ` Max Reitz
2020-02-05 10:23                         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-05 14:31                           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 13:20                             ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 13:36                               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-06 14:25                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-02-06 15:19                                   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 15:23                                     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-30 15:45                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:21   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 12:58     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-15 14:51   ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots (was: [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management) Markus Armbruster
2020-02-16  8:05     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-17  6:45       ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots Markus Armbruster
2020-02-17  8:19         ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-17 10:37     ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots (was: [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management) Kevin Wolf
2020-02-17 11:07       ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-24 14:46         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-24 14:50           ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-17 12:28       ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots Markus Armbruster
2020-02-17 12:44         ` Eric Blake
2020-02-24 14:43         ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2020-02-24 14:45     ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots (was: [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management) Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-25 12:15     ` Max Reitz
2020-02-25 16:48       ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots Markus Armbruster
2020-02-25 17:00         ` Max Reitz
2020-02-26  7:28           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-26  9:18             ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-25 17:18         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-03-03  9:18     ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots (was: [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management) Maxim Levitsky
2020-03-05 12:15       ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 03/13] block: amend: add 'force' option Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 04/13] block: amend: separate amend and create options for qemu-img Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:23   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 15:54     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 05/13] block/crypto: rename two functions Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 06/13] block/crypto: implement the encryption key management Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:27   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:08     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 07/13] qcow2: extend qemu-img amend interface with crypto options Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:30   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:09     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 08/13] iotests: filter few more luks specific create options Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:36   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:12     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 09/13] qemu-iotests: qemu-img tests for luks key management Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 10/13] block: add generic infrastructure for x-blockdev-amend qmp command Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-21  7:59   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-21 13:58     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 11/13] block/crypto: implement blockdev-amend Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:40   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:24     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 12/13] block/qcow2: " Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:41   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 13/13] iotests: add tests for blockdev-amend Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 21:16 ` [PATCH 00/13] LUKS: encryption slot management using amend interface no-reply
2020-01-16 14:01   ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 21:17 ` no-reply
2020-01-16 14:19   ` Maxim Levitsky

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