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From: Maxim Levitsky <mlevitsk@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>, Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: "John Snow" <jsnow@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P.Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, qemu-block@nongnu.org,
	"Max Reitz" <mreitz@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management
Date: Thu, 06 Feb 2020 17:23:37 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <409d70e1a13c6fd94094d99ac32c8201dbdbc1d8.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87pnerd9pf.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On Thu, 2020-02-06 at 16:19 +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > Am 06.02.2020 um 14:36 hat Daniel P. Berrangé geschrieben:
> > > On Thu, Feb 06, 2020 at 02:20:11PM +0100, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> > > > One more question regarding the array in
> > > > 
> > > >     { 'struct': 'QCryptoBlockAmendOptionsLUKS',
> > > >       'data' : {
> > > >                 'keys': ['LUKSKeyslotUpdate'],
> > > >                  '*unlock-secret' : 'str' } }
> > > > 
> > > > Why an array?  Do we really need multiple keyslot updates in one amend
> > > > operation?
> > > 
> > > I think it it is unlikely we'd use this in libvirt. In the case of wanting
> > > to *change* a key, it is safer to do a sequence of "add key" and then
> > > "remove key". If you combine them into the same operation, and you get
> > > an error back, it is hard to know /where/ it failed ? was the new key
> > > added or not ?
> > 
> > I think the array came in because of the "describe the new state"
> > approach. The state has eight keyslots, so in order to fully describe
> > the new state, you would have to be able to pass multiple slots at once.
> 
> I see.
> 
> Of course, it can also describe multiple new states for the same slot.
> 
> Example:
> 
>     [{'state': 'active', 'keyslot': 0, 'secret': 'sec0'},
>      {'state': 'active', 'keyslot': 0, 'secret': 'sec1'}]
> 
>     where slot 0's old state is 'inactive'.
> 
> Which one is the new state?
> 
> If we execute the array elements one by one, this first makes slot 0
> active with secret 'sec0', then tries to make it active with secret
> 'sec1', which fails.  Simple enough, but it's not really "describe the
> new state", it's still "specify a series of state transitions".
> 
> If we merge the array elements into a description of the new state of
> all eight slots, where a slot's description can be "same as old state",
> then this makes slot 0 active with either secret 'sec0' or 'sec1',
> depending on how we resolve the conflict.  We could even make conflicts
> an error, and then this would fail without changing anything.
> 
> What do we want?
> 
> Is this worth the trouble?

Yes, that is my thoughts on this as well.

Best regards,
	Maxim Levitsky




  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-06 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-01-14 19:33 [PATCH 00/13] LUKS: encryption slot management using amend interface Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 01/13] qcrypto: add generic infrastructure for crypto options amendment Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 16:59   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-29 17:49     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-21  7:54   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-21 13:13     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:11       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-28 17:32         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-29 17:54           ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-30 12:38           ` Kevin Wolf
2020-01-30 12:53             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 14:23               ` Kevin Wolf
2020-01-30 14:30                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 14:53                 ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-30 14:47               ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-30 15:01                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:37                   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-05  8:24                     ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-05  9:30                       ` Kevin Wolf
2020-02-05 10:03                         ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-05 11:02                           ` Kevin Wolf
2020-02-05 14:31                             ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 13:44                               ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 13:49                                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-06 14:20                                   ` Max Reitz
2020-02-05 10:23                         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-05 14:31                           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 13:20                             ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 13:36                               ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-06 14:25                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2020-02-06 15:19                                   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-06 15:23                                     ` Maxim Levitsky [this message]
2020-01-30 15:45                 ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:21   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 12:58     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-15 14:51   ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots (was: [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management) Markus Armbruster
2020-02-16  8:05     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-17  6:45       ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots Markus Armbruster
2020-02-17  8:19         ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-17 10:37     ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots (was: [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management) Kevin Wolf
2020-02-17 11:07       ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-24 14:46         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-24 14:50           ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-17 12:28       ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots Markus Armbruster
2020-02-17 12:44         ` Eric Blake
2020-02-24 14:43         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-24 14:45     ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots (was: [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management) Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-02-25 12:15     ` Max Reitz
2020-02-25 16:48       ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots Markus Armbruster
2020-02-25 17:00         ` Max Reitz
2020-02-26  7:28           ` Markus Armbruster
2020-02-26  9:18             ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-02-25 17:18         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-03-03  9:18     ` QAPI schema for desired state of LUKS keyslots (was: [PATCH 02/13] qcrypto-luks: implement encryption key management) Maxim Levitsky
2020-03-05 12:15       ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 03/13] block: amend: add 'force' option Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 04/13] block: amend: separate amend and create options for qemu-img Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:23   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 15:54     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 05/13] block/crypto: rename two functions Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 06/13] block/crypto: implement the encryption key management Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:27   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:08     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 07/13] qcow2: extend qemu-img amend interface with crypto options Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:30   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:09     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 08/13] iotests: filter few more luks specific create options Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:36   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:12     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 09/13] qemu-iotests: qemu-img tests for luks key management Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 10/13] block: add generic infrastructure for x-blockdev-amend qmp command Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-21  7:59   ` Markus Armbruster
2020-01-21 13:58     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 11/13] block/crypto: implement blockdev-amend Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:40   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-30 16:24     ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 12/13] block/qcow2: " Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-28 17:41   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-01-14 19:33 ` [PATCH 13/13] iotests: add tests for blockdev-amend Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 21:16 ` [PATCH 00/13] LUKS: encryption slot management using amend interface no-reply
2020-01-16 14:01   ` Maxim Levitsky
2020-01-14 21:17 ` no-reply
2020-01-16 14:19   ` Maxim Levitsky

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