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From: Elena Ufimtseva <elena.ufimtseva@oracle.com>
To: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
Cc: fam@euphon.net, john.g.johnson@oracle.com,
	swapnil.ingle@nutanix.com, mst@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	kraxel@redhat.com, Jagannathan Raman <jag.raman@oracle.com>,
	quintela@redhat.com, armbru@redhat.com,
	kanth.ghatraju@oracle.com, felipe@nutanix.com, thuth@redhat.com,
	ehabkost@redhat.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com, dgilbert@redhat.com,
	liran.alon@oracle.com, thanos.makatos@nutanix.com,
	rth@twiddle.net, kwolf@redhat.com, berrange@redhat.com,
	mreitz@redhat.com, ross.lagerwall@citrix.com,
	marcandre.lureau@gmail.com, pbonzini@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 50/50] multi-process: add configure and usage information
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2020 10:43:44 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200228184343.GB25838@flaka> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200227165804.GE315098@stefanha-x1.localdomain>

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 04:58:04PM +0000, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2020 at 03:55:41PM -0500, Jagannathan Raman wrote:
> > From: Elena Ufimtseva <elena.ufimtseva@oracle.com>
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Elena Ufimtseva <elena.ufimtseva@oracle.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Jagannathan Raman <jag.raman@oracle.com>
> > Signed-off-by: John G Johnson <john.g.johnson@oracle.com>
> > ---
> >  docs/qemu-multiprocess.txt | 86 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  1 file changed, 86 insertions(+)
> >  create mode 100644 docs/qemu-multiprocess.txt
> > 
> > diff --git a/docs/qemu-multiprocess.txt b/docs/qemu-multiprocess.txt
> > new file mode 100644
> > index 0000000..f156177
> > --- /dev/null
> > +++ b/docs/qemu-multiprocess.txt
> > @@ -0,0 +1,86 @@
> > +Multi-process QEMU
> > +==================
> > +
> > +This document describes how to configure and use multi-process qemu.
> > +For the design document refer to docs/devel/qemu-multiprocess.
> > +
> > +1) Configuration
> > +----------------
> > +
> > +To enable support for multi-process add --enable-mpqemu
> > +to the list of options for the "configure" script.
> > +
> > +
> > +2) Usage
> > +--------
> > +
> > +To start qemu with devices intended to run in a separate emulation
> > +process without libvirtd support, the following should be used on QEMU
> > +command line. As of now, we only support the emulation of lsi53c895a
> > +in a separate process
> > +
> > +* Since parts of the RAM are shared between QEMU & remote process, a
> > +  memory-backend-file is required to facilitate this, as follows:
> > +
> > +  -object memory-backend-file,id=mem,mem-path=/dev/shm/,size=4096M,share=on
> 
> memory-backend-memfd is more convenient.  It doesn't require a mem-path
> and share=on is the default.
>

Will change this. 
> > +
> > +* The devices to be emulated in the separate process are defined as
> > +  before with addition of "rid" suboption that serves as a remote group
> > +  identificator.
> > +
> > +  -device <device options>,rid="remote process id"
> > +
> > +  For example, for non multi-process qemu:
> > +    -device lsi53c895a,id=scsi0 device
> > +    -device scsi-hd,drive=drive0,bus=scsi0.0,scsi-id=0
> > +    -drive id=drive0,file=data-disk.img
> > +
> > +  and for multi-process qemu and no libvirt
> > +  support (i.e. QEMU forks child processes):
> > +    -device lsi53c895a,id=scsi0,rid=0
> > +    -device scsi-hd,drive=drive0,bus=scsi0.0,scsi-id=0,rid=0
> 
> This approach is invasive:
>  * lsi53c895a should not need to be modified with a new rid= option.
>  * QEMU should not know about the scsi-hd device or drive0.  Only the
>    device emulation process needs to know about scsi-hd.
> 
> In order to cleanly separate QEMU and the device emulation process
> syntax like this is needed:
> 
>   -object remote-device,id=rid0,...
>   -device remote-pci-device,id=scsi0,remote-device=rid0
> 
> The "remote-device" object could be part of remote-pci-device, but
> keeping it separate may be useful in the future in order to support
> things like reconnection.
> 
> The generic "remote-pci-device" device handles any remote PCI device,
> not just the LSI SCSI controller.
> 
> Do you agree with this approach?
> 

We discussed these changes and they seem to be along the lines with
the future work on vfio over socket approach we will be working on later.

Could we for this experimental version have the changes you propose here
with one modification - instead of having generic remote-pci-device imply that that is LSI
device? And while we work towards vfio over socket this will become any remote
PCI device?

> > +* The command-line options for the remote process are added to the "command"
> > +  suboption of the newly added "-remote" option. 
> > +
> > +   -remote [socket],rid=0,exec="...",command="..."
> 
> QEMU has been using the -object TYPE syntax instead of adding new -TYPE
> command-line options.  This gives you object_add hotplug for free, for
> example.  I suggest using -object remote-device,id=,exec=,command=,
> instead of -remote.
> 

We will add these changes.
> > +
> > +  The drives to be emulated by the remote process are specified as part of
> > +  this command sub-option. The device to be used to connect to the monitor
> > +  is also specified as part of this suboption.
> > +
> > +  For example, the following option adds a drive and monitor to the remote
> > +  process:
> > +  -remote rid=0,exec="qemu-scsi-dev",command="-drive id=drive0,,file=data-disk.img -monitor unix:/home/qmp-sock,,server,,nowait"
> > +
> > +  Note: There's an issue with this "command" sub-option which we are in the
> > +  process of fixing. To work around this issue, it requires additional
> > +  "comma" characters as illustrated above, and in the example below.
> 
> command= (which could be called args= for clarity) will be difficult to
> use not just because of comma escaping but also because of double-quote
> escaping.  How do you pass a command-line argument that contains spaces?

Yes, this is not great. And spaces are the problem at the moment.
I am looking if the -object has some properties that can allow for arbitrary
strings. Maybe such as data for "secret" object  would do?


Elena


  reply	other threads:[~2020-02-28 18:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 117+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-02-24 20:54 [PATCH v5 00/50] Initial support for multi-process qemu Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 01/50] multi-process: memory: alloc RAM from file at offset Jagannathan Raman
2020-03-03 19:51   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-03-04 18:24     ` Jag Raman
2020-02-24 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 02/50] multi-process: Refactor machine_init and exit notifiers Jagannathan Raman
2020-03-29 16:45   ` Marc-André Lureau
2020-02-24 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 03/50] multi-process: add a command line option for debug file Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 04/50] multi-process: Add stub functions to facilate build of multi-process Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 05/50] multi-process: Add config option for multi-process QEMU Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 06/50] multi-process: build system for remote device process Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 07/50] multi-process: define mpqemu-link object Jagannathan Raman
2020-03-10 16:09   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-03-10 18:26     ` Elena Ufimtseva
2020-03-16 11:26       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-02-24 20:54 ` [PATCH v5 08/50] multi-process: add functions to synchronize proxy and remote endpoints Jagannathan Raman
2020-03-03 19:56   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-03-04 18:42     ` Jag Raman
2020-03-04 19:46       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 09/50] multi-process: setup PCI host bridge for remote device Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 10/50] multi-process: setup a machine object for remote device process Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 11/50] multi-process: setup memory manager for remote device Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 12/50] multi-process: remote process initialization Jagannathan Raman
2020-03-04 10:29   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-03-04 18:45     ` Jag Raman
2020-03-04 19:00       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 13/50] multi-process: introduce proxy object Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 14/50] mutli-process: build remote command line args Jagannathan Raman
2020-03-02 17:36   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2020-03-02 17:47     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-03-02 22:39       ` Elena Ufimtseva
2020-03-04 11:00         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-03-04 16:25           ` Elena Ufimtseva
2020-03-04 16:33             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-03-04 22:37               ` Elena Ufimtseva
2020-03-05  8:21                 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2020-03-06 16:25                   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-03-04 10:09   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 15/50] multi-process: PCI BAR read/write handling for proxy & remote endpoints Jagannathan Raman
2020-03-04 10:47   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-03-04 19:05     ` Jag Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 16/50] multi-process: Synchronize remote memory Jagannathan Raman
2020-03-04 11:53   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-03-04 19:35     ` Jag Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 17/50] multi-process: create IOHUB object to handle irq Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 18/50] multi-process: configure remote side devices Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 19/50] multi-process: Retrieve PCI info from remote process Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 20/50] multi-process: add qdev_proxy_add to create proxy devices Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 21/50] multi-process: remote: add setup_devices msg processing Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 22/50] multi-process: remote: use fd for socket from parent process Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 23/50] multi-process: remote: add create_done condition Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 24/50] multi-process: add processing of remote device command line Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 25/50] multi-process: Introduce build flags to separate remote process code Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 26/50] multi-process: refractor vl.c code Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 27/50] multi-process: add remote option Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 28/50] multi-process: add remote options parser Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 29/50] multi-process: add parse_cmdline in remote process Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 30/50] multi-process: send heartbeat messages to remote Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 31/50] multi-process: handle heartbeat messages in remote process Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 32/50] multi-process: Use separate MMIO communication channel Jagannathan Raman
2020-03-06 16:52   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-03-10 18:04     ` Jag Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 33/50] multi-process: perform device reset in the remote process Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 34/50] multi-process/mon: choose HMP commands based on target Jagannathan Raman
2020-03-05 10:39   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-03-05 15:38     ` Jag Raman
2020-03-05 15:50       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 35/50] multi-process/mon: stub functions to enable QMP module for remote process Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 36/50] multi-process/mon: enable QMP module support in the " Jagannathan Raman
2020-03-05 10:43   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-03-05 15:40     ` Jag Raman
2020-03-05 15:52       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 37/50] multi-process/mon: Refactor monitor/chardev functions out of vl.c Jagannathan Raman
2020-03-05 10:51   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-03-05 15:41     ` Jag Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 38/50] multi-process/mon: Initialize QMP module for remote processes Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 39/50] multi-process: prevent duplicate memory initialization in remote Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 40/50] multi-process/mig: build migration module in the remote process Jagannathan Raman
2020-03-04 15:58   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-03-04 19:45     ` Jag Raman
2020-03-04 19:52       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-03-04 20:23         ` Jag Raman
2020-03-05 10:10           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-03-05 17:07             ` Elena Ufimtseva
2020-03-05 17:19               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 41/50] multi-process/mig: Enable VMSD save in the Proxy object Jagannathan Raman
2020-03-05 12:31   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-03-05 16:48     ` Jag Raman
2020-03-05 17:04       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 42/50] multi-process/mig: Send VMSD of remote to " Jagannathan Raman
2020-03-05 14:39   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-03-05 16:32     ` Elena Ufimtseva
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 43/50] multi-process/mig: Load VMSD in the proxy object Jagannathan Raman
2020-03-05 15:28   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 44/50] multi-process/mig: refactor runstate_check into common file Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 45/50] multi-process/mig: Synchronize runstate of remote process Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 46/50] multi-process/mig: Restore the VMSD in " Jagannathan Raman
2020-03-05 16:05   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 47/50] multi-process: Enable support for multiple devices in remote Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-28 16:44   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-03-02 19:28     ` Jag Raman
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 48/50] multi-process: Validate incoming commands from Proxy Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-27 17:18   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-02-28 17:53     ` Elena Ufimtseva
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 49/50] multi-process: add the concept description to docs/devel/qemu-multiprocess Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-27 17:11   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-02-28 18:44     ` Elena Ufimtseva
2020-02-24 20:55 ` [PATCH v5 50/50] multi-process: add configure and usage information Jagannathan Raman
2020-02-27 16:58   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-02-28 18:43     ` Elena Ufimtseva [this message]
2020-03-06 16:42       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2020-02-24 21:59 ` [PATCH v5 00/50] Initial support for multi-process qemu no-reply
2020-02-24 22:03 ` no-reply
2020-02-24 22:23 ` no-reply
2020-03-01 11:57 ` Alex Bennée
2020-03-02 15:28   ` Jag Raman
2020-03-02 16:29     ` Alex Bennée
2020-03-02 16:53       ` Jag Raman

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