[virtio-comment] [PATCH v5] virtio-net: Add support for the flexible driver notification structure

[virtio-comment] [PATCH v5] virtio-net: Add support for the flexible driver notification structure

[Vitaly Mireyno]

Currently, the driver notification (available buffer notification) has a fixed structure.
If VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA has been negotiated, it includes: vqn, next_off and next_wrap.
If notify_off_multiplier > 0, the VQ number can be derived by the device from the Queue Notify address, so vqn may be redundant.

Some devices benefit from receiving an additional data with driver notifications. This data can optionally replace the vqn field in the driver notification structure.
In its simplest form, it would be sufficient for this data to be a per-device constant value.

Changes from v4 - articles fix-up.

Signed-off-by: Vitaly Mireyno <vmireyno@marvell.com>
---
 content.tex | 33 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 33 insertions(+)

diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
index b91a132..08e6111 100644
--- a/content.tex
+++ b/content.tex
@@ -965,6 +965,8 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options
 struct virtio_pci_notify_cap {
         struct virtio_pci_cap cap;
         le32 notify_off_multiplier; /* Multiplier for queue_notify_off. */
+        le16 notify_data; /* Data to be placed in the vqn field */
+        le16 padding; /* Pad to a dword */
 };
 \end{lstlisting}
 
@@ -984,6 +986,21 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options
 the same Queue Notify address for all queues.
 \end{note}
 
+\field{notify_data} is the data that the driver will set in the \field{vqn}
+field in the available buffer notification, if
+VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA has been negotiated.
+
+\begin{note}
+If \field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0, the virtqueue number can potentially be
+derived by the device from the Queue Notify address, so \field{vqn} may be
+redundant. Some devices benefit from receiving additional data with driver
+notifications. An example could be a hardware device implementing multiple
+protocols (with virtio being one of them), so the extra notification data could
+serve as a notification type indication or a protocol indication.
+Another example could be using shared hardware memory space for driver
+notifications for multiple virtio devices in a trusted environment.
+\end{note}
+
 \devicenormative{\paragraph}{Notification capability}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / Notification capability}
 The device MUST present at least one notification capability.
 
@@ -1020,6 +1037,9 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options
 cap.length >= queue_notify_off * notify_off_multiplier + 4
 \end{lstlisting}
 
+If the device offers VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA, it MUST set
+\field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0 in at least one capability.
+
 \subsubsection{ISR status capability}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / ISR status capability}
 
 The VIRTIO_PCI_CAP_ISR_CFG capability
@@ -1519,6 +1539,14 @@ \subsubsection{Available Buffer Notifications}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Option
 See \ref{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / Notification capability}
 for how to calculate the Queue Notify address.
 
+\drivernormative{\paragraph}{Available Buffer Notifications}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI-specific Initialization And Device Operation / Available Buffer Notifications}
+The driver SHOULD accept the VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA feature if it has
+been offered.
+
+If VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA has been negotiated and
+\field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0, the driver MUST set the \field{vqn} field of
+the available buffer notification structure to the \field{notify_data} value.
+
 \subsubsection{Used Buffer Notifications}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI-specific Initialization And Device Operation / Used Buffer Notifications}
 
 If a used buffer notification is necessary for a virtqueue, the device would typically act as follows:
@@ -2895,6 +2923,10 @@ \subsection{Feature bits}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Feature bits
 \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR(23)] Set MAC address through control
     channel.
 
+\item[VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA(57)] Driver provides extra data with
+    available buffer notifications, to aid in notification processing by the
+    device.
+
 \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_HDRLEN(59)] Driver can provide the exact \field{hdr_len}
     value. Device benefits from knowing the exact header length.
 
@@ -2934,6 +2966,7 @@ \subsubsection{Feature bit requirements}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device
 \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR] Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VQ.
 \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_RSC_EXT] Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_HOST_TSO4 or VIRTIO_NET_F_HOST_TSO6.
 \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_RSS] Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VQ.
+\item[VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA] Requires VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA.
 \end{description}
 
 \subsubsection{Legacy Interface: Feature bits}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Feature bits / Legacy Interface: Feature bits}
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Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH v5] virtio-net: Add support for the flexible driver notification structure

[Halil Pasic]

On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:42:14 +0000
Vitaly Mireyno <vmireyno@marvell.com> wrote:

> Currently, the driver notification (available buffer notification) has a fixed structure.
> If VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA has been negotiated, it includes: vqn, next_off and next_wrap.
> If notify_off_multiplier > 0, the VQ number can be derived by the device from the Queue Notify address, so vqn may be redundant.

May or may not be redundant depending on what transport is used! For the
Channel I/O transport it is not redundant, because there is no such
thing like Qeueue Notify address or notify_off_multiplier.

We do have space left in GPR3 which host the notification data, but for
the VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA feature to work with ccw, we would
need to introduce yet another notification data format.

For that silicone whose features Vitaly is trying to bring into the
spec, ccw is very unlikely to matter. But then there was a discussion on
other future uses, which make me worry.

BTW the normative statements for VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA seem to
be all PCI specific. How are other transports supposed to react? Not
accept the feature?

Conny, what is your opinion on this new feature and mechanism? 

Actually my knowledge of PCI is not sufficient to understand why would a
device play this strange cookie game (making the driver send some device
specific constant for each notification). But that does not matter.

I guess there will be kernel patches for this. Or are there some
already? Can the implementer please put me in cc?

Regards,
Halil

> 
> Some devices benefit from receiving an additional data with driver notifications. This data can optionally replace the vqn field in the driver notification structure.
> In its simplest form, it would be sufficient for this data to be a per-device constant value.
> 
> Changes from v4 - articles fix-up.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Vitaly Mireyno <vmireyno@marvell.com>
> ---
>  content.tex | 33 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 33 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> index b91a132..08e6111 100644
> --- a/content.tex
> +++ b/content.tex
> @@ -965,6 +965,8 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options
>  struct virtio_pci_notify_cap {
>          struct virtio_pci_cap cap;
>          le32 notify_off_multiplier; /* Multiplier for queue_notify_off. */
> +        le16 notify_data; /* Data to be placed in the vqn field */
> +        le16 padding; /* Pad to a dword */
>  };
>  \end{lstlisting}
>  
> @@ -984,6 +986,21 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options
>  the same Queue Notify address for all queues.
>  \end{note}
>  
> +\field{notify_data} is the data that the driver will set in the \field{vqn}
> +field in the available buffer notification, if
> +VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA has been negotiated.
> +
> +\begin{note}
> +If \field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0, the virtqueue number can potentially be
> +derived by the device from the Queue Notify address, so \field{vqn} may be
> +redundant. Some devices benefit from receiving additional data with driver
> +notifications. An example could be a hardware device implementing multiple
> +protocols (with virtio being one of them), so the extra notification data could
> +serve as a notification type indication or a protocol indication.
> +Another example could be using shared hardware memory space for driver
> +notifications for multiple virtio devices in a trusted environment.
> +\end{note}
> +
>  \devicenormative{\paragraph}{Notification capability}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / Notification capability}
>  The device MUST present at least one notification capability.
>  
> @@ -1020,6 +1037,9 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options
>  cap.length >= queue_notify_off * notify_off_multiplier + 4
>  \end{lstlisting}
>  
> +If the device offers VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA, it MUST set
> +\field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0 in at least one capability.
> +
>  \subsubsection{ISR status capability}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / ISR status capability}
>  
>  The VIRTIO_PCI_CAP_ISR_CFG capability
> @@ -1519,6 +1539,14 @@ \subsubsection{Available Buffer Notifications}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Option
>  See \ref{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / Notification capability}
>  for how to calculate the Queue Notify address.
>  
> +\drivernormative{\paragraph}{Available Buffer Notifications}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI-specific Initialization And Device Operation / Available Buffer Notifications}
> +The driver SHOULD accept the VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA feature if it has
> +been offered.
> +
> +If VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA has been negotiated and
> +\field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0, the driver MUST set the \field{vqn} field of
> +the available buffer notification structure to the \field{notify_data} value.
> +
>  \subsubsection{Used Buffer Notifications}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI-specific Initialization And Device Operation / Used Buffer Notifications}
>  
>  If a used buffer notification is necessary for a virtqueue, the device would typically act as follows:
> @@ -2895,6 +2923,10 @@ \subsection{Feature bits}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Feature bits
>  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR(23)] Set MAC address through control
>      channel.
>  
> +\item[VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA(57)] Driver provides extra data with
> +    available buffer notifications, to aid in notification processing by the
> +    device.
> +
>  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_HDRLEN(59)] Driver can provide the exact \field{hdr_len}
>      value. Device benefits from knowing the exact header length.
>  
> @@ -2934,6 +2966,7 @@ \subsubsection{Feature bit requirements}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device
>  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR] Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VQ.
>  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_RSC_EXT] Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_HOST_TSO4 or VIRTIO_NET_F_HOST_TSO6.
>  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_RSS] Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VQ.
> +\item[VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA] Requires VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA.
>  \end{description}
>  
>  \subsubsection{Legacy Interface: Feature bits}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Feature bits / Legacy Interface: Feature bits}
> --
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Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH v5] virtio-net: Add support for the flexible driver notification structure

[Michael S. Tsirkin]

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 06:43:41PM +0100, Halil Pasic wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:42:14 +0000
> Vitaly Mireyno <vmireyno@marvell.com> wrote:
> 
> > Currently, the driver notification (available buffer notification) has a fixed structure.
> > If VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA has been negotiated, it includes: vqn, next_off and next_wrap.
> > If notify_off_multiplier > 0, the VQ number can be derived by the device from the Queue Notify address, so vqn may be redundant.
> 
> May or may not be redundant depending on what transport is used! For the
> Channel I/O transport it is not redundant, because there is no such
> thing like Qeueue Notify address or notify_off_multiplier.

Right note this is all in the PCI chapter.


> We do have space left in GPR3 which host the notification data, but for
> the VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA feature to work with ccw, we would
> need to introduce yet another notification data format.
> 
> For that silicone whose features Vitaly is trying to bring into the
> spec, ccw is very unlikely to matter. But then there was a discussion on
> other future uses, which make me worry.
> 
> BTW the normative statements for VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA seem to
> be all PCI specific. How are other transports supposed to react? Not
> accept the feature?
> 
> Conny, what is your opinion on this new feature and mechanism? 
> 
> Actually my knowledge of PCI is not sufficient to understand why would a
> device play this strange cookie game (making the driver send some device
> specific constant for each notification). But that does not matter.
> 
> I guess there will be kernel patches for this. Or are there some
> already? Can the implementer please put me in cc?
> 
> Regards,
> Halil
> 
> > 
> > Some devices benefit from receiving an additional data with driver notifications. This data can optionally replace the vqn field in the driver notification structure.
> > In its simplest form, it would be sufficient for this data to be a per-device constant value.
> > 
> > Changes from v4 - articles fix-up.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Vitaly Mireyno <vmireyno@marvell.com>
> > ---
> >  content.tex | 33 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  1 file changed, 33 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> > index b91a132..08e6111 100644
> > --- a/content.tex
> > +++ b/content.tex
> > @@ -965,6 +965,8 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options
> >  struct virtio_pci_notify_cap {
> >          struct virtio_pci_cap cap;
> >          le32 notify_off_multiplier; /* Multiplier for queue_notify_off. */
> > +        le16 notify_data; /* Data to be placed in the vqn field */
> > +        le16 padding; /* Pad to a dword */
> >  };
> >  \end{lstlisting}
> >  
> > @@ -984,6 +986,21 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options
> >  the same Queue Notify address for all queues.
> >  \end{note}
> >  
> > +\field{notify_data} is the data that the driver will set in the \field{vqn}
> > +field in the available buffer notification, if
> > +VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA has been negotiated.
> > +
> > +\begin{note}
> > +If \field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0, the virtqueue number can potentially be
> > +derived by the device from the Queue Notify address, so \field{vqn} may be
> > +redundant. Some devices benefit from receiving additional data with driver
> > +notifications. An example could be a hardware device implementing multiple
> > +protocols (with virtio being one of them), so the extra notification data could
> > +serve as a notification type indication or a protocol indication.
> > +Another example could be using shared hardware memory space for driver
> > +notifications for multiple virtio devices in a trusted environment.
> > +\end{note}
> > +
> >  \devicenormative{\paragraph}{Notification capability}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / Notification capability}
> >  The device MUST present at least one notification capability.
> >  
> > @@ -1020,6 +1037,9 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options
> >  cap.length >= queue_notify_off * notify_off_multiplier + 4
> >  \end{lstlisting}
> >  
> > +If the device offers VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA, it MUST set
> > +\field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0 in at least one capability.
> > +
> >  \subsubsection{ISR status capability}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / ISR status capability}
> >  
> >  The VIRTIO_PCI_CAP_ISR_CFG capability
> > @@ -1519,6 +1539,14 @@ \subsubsection{Available Buffer Notifications}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Option
> >  See \ref{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / Notification capability}
> >  for how to calculate the Queue Notify address.
> >  
> > +\drivernormative{\paragraph}{Available Buffer Notifications}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI-specific Initialization And Device Operation / Available Buffer Notifications}
> > +The driver SHOULD accept the VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA feature if it has
> > +been offered.
> > +
> > +If VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA has been negotiated and
> > +\field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0, the driver MUST set the \field{vqn} field of
> > +the available buffer notification structure to the \field{notify_data} value.
> > +
> >  \subsubsection{Used Buffer Notifications}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI-specific Initialization And Device Operation / Used Buffer Notifications}
> >  
> >  If a used buffer notification is necessary for a virtqueue, the device would typically act as follows:
> > @@ -2895,6 +2923,10 @@ \subsection{Feature bits}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Feature bits
> >  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR(23)] Set MAC address through control
> >      channel.
> >  
> > +\item[VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA(57)] Driver provides extra data with
> > +    available buffer notifications, to aid in notification processing by the
> > +    device.
> > +
> >  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_HDRLEN(59)] Driver can provide the exact \field{hdr_len}
> >      value. Device benefits from knowing the exact header length.
> >  
> > @@ -2934,6 +2966,7 @@ \subsubsection{Feature bit requirements}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device
> >  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR] Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VQ.
> >  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_RSC_EXT] Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_HOST_TSO4 or VIRTIO_NET_F_HOST_TSO6.
> >  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_RSS] Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VQ.
> > +\item[VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA] Requires VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA.
> >  \end{description}
> >  
> >  \subsubsection{Legacy Interface: Feature bits}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Feature bits / Legacy Interface: Feature bits}
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[virtio-comment] Re: [PATCH v5] virtio-net: Add support for the flexible driver notification structure

[Michael S. Tsirkin]

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 08:42:14AM +0000, Vitaly Mireyno wrote:
> Currently, the driver notification (available buffer notification) has a fixed structure.
> If VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA has been negotiated, it includes: vqn, next_off and next_wrap.
> If notify_off_multiplier > 0, the VQ number can be derived by the device from the Queue Notify address, so vqn may be redundant.
> 
> Some devices benefit from receiving an additional data with driver notifications. This data can optionally replace the vqn field in the driver notification structure.
> In its simplest form, it would be sufficient for this data to be a per-device constant value.
> 
> Changes from v4 - articles fix-up.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Vitaly Mireyno <vmireyno@marvell.com>
> ---
>  content.tex | 33 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 33 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> index b91a132..08e6111 100644
> --- a/content.tex
> +++ b/content.tex
> @@ -965,6 +965,8 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options
>  struct virtio_pci_notify_cap {
>          struct virtio_pci_cap cap;
>          le32 notify_off_multiplier; /* Multiplier for queue_notify_off. */
> +        le16 notify_data; /* Data to be placed in the vqn field */
> +        le16 padding; /* Pad to a dword */
>  };
>  \end{lstlisting}
>  
> @@ -984,6 +986,21 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options
>  the same Queue Notify address for all queues.
>  \end{note}
>  
> +\field{notify_data} is the data that the driver will set in the \field{vqn}
> +field in the available buffer notification, if
> +VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA has been negotiated.
> +
> +\begin{note}
> +If \field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0, the virtqueue number can potentially be
> +derived by the device from the Queue Notify address, so \field{vqn} may be
> +redundant. Some devices benefit from receiving additional data with driver
> +notifications. An example could be a hardware device implementing multiple
> +protocols (with virtio being one of them), so the extra notification data could
> +serve as a notification type indication or a protocol indication.
> +Another example could be using shared hardware memory space for driver
> +notifications for multiple virtio devices in a trusted environment.

Actually I missed this "in a trusted environment".  This only works if
all drivers can trust each other.  I don't think we should give examples
with security problems like this.


> +\end{note}
> +
>  \devicenormative{\paragraph}{Notification capability}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / Notification capability}
>  The device MUST present at least one notification capability.
>  
> @@ -1020,6 +1037,9 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options
>  cap.length >= queue_notify_off * notify_off_multiplier + 4
>  \end{lstlisting}
>  
> +If the device offers VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA, it MUST set
> +\field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0 in at least one capability.
> +
>  \subsubsection{ISR status capability}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / ISR status capability}
>  
>  The VIRTIO_PCI_CAP_ISR_CFG capability
> @@ -1519,6 +1539,14 @@ \subsubsection{Available Buffer Notifications}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Option
>  See \ref{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / Notification capability}
>  for how to calculate the Queue Notify address.
>  
> +\drivernormative{\paragraph}{Available Buffer Notifications}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI-specific Initialization And Device Operation / Available Buffer Notifications}
> +The driver SHOULD accept the VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA feature if it has
> +been offered.
> +
> +If VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA has been negotiated and
> +\field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0, the driver MUST set the \field{vqn} field of
> +the available buffer notification structure to the \field{notify_data} value.
> +
>  \subsubsection{Used Buffer Notifications}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI-specific Initialization And Device Operation / Used Buffer Notifications}
>  
>  If a used buffer notification is necessary for a virtqueue, the device would typically act as follows:
> @@ -2895,6 +2923,10 @@ \subsection{Feature bits}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Feature bits
>  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR(23)] Set MAC address through control
>      channel.
>  
> +\item[VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA(57)] Driver provides extra data with
> +    available buffer notifications, to aid in notification processing by the
> +    device.
> +

It's not a big deal but maybe "config data" would have been a better
name (since it's from config space).

>  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_HDRLEN(59)] Driver can provide the exact \field{hdr_len}
>      value. Device benefits from knowing the exact header length.
>  
> @@ -2934,6 +2966,7 @@ \subsubsection{Feature bit requirements}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device
>  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR] Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VQ.
>  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_RSC_EXT] Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_HOST_TSO4 or VIRTIO_NET_F_HOST_TSO6.
>  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_RSS] Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VQ.
> +\item[VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA] Requires VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA.

Hmm I missed this too. Could you explain why is this dependency there?

>  \end{description}
>  
>  \subsubsection{Legacy Interface: Feature bits}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Feature bits / Legacy Interface: Feature bits}
> --


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Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH v5] virtio-net: Add support for the flexible driver notification structure

[Cornelia Huck]

[Was on PTO; I already commented on the ballot for this issue, but let
me be more verbose here.]

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 18:43:41 +0100
Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:42:14 +0000
> Vitaly Mireyno <vmireyno@marvell.com> wrote:
> 
> > Currently, the driver notification (available buffer notification) has a fixed structure.
> > If VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA has been negotiated, it includes: vqn, next_off and next_wrap.
> > If notify_off_multiplier > 0, the VQ number can be derived by the device from the Queue Notify address, so vqn may be redundant.  
> 
> May or may not be redundant depending on what transport is used! For the
> Channel I/O transport it is not redundant, because there is no such
> thing like Qeueue Notify address or notify_off_multiplier.
> 
> We do have space left in GPR3 which host the notification data, but for
> the VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA feature to work with ccw, we would
> need to introduce yet another notification data format.
> 
> For that silicone whose features Vitaly is trying to bring into the
> spec, ccw is very unlikely to matter. But then there was a discussion on
> other future uses, which make me worry.
> 
> BTW the normative statements for VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA seem to
> be all PCI specific. How are other transports supposed to react? Not
> accept the feature?
> 
> Conny, what is your opinion on this new feature and mechanism? 


Agreed, we should not hide the definition of the feature in the pci
section. What we can have is a transport-specific format defined here,
and a definition for the feature referring to transport-specific
details.

> 
> Actually my knowledge of PCI is not sufficient to understand why would a
> device play this strange cookie game (making the driver send some device
> specific constant for each notification). But that does not matter.
> 
> I guess there will be kernel patches for this. Or are there some
> already? Can the implementer please put me in cc?
> 
> Regards,
> Halil
> 
> > 
> > Some devices benefit from receiving an additional data with driver notifications. This data can optionally replace the vqn field in the driver notification structure.
> > In its simplest form, it would be sufficient for this data to be a per-device constant value.
> > 
> > Changes from v4 - articles fix-up.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Vitaly Mireyno <vmireyno@marvell.com>
> > ---
> >  content.tex | 33 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >  1 file changed, 33 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex
> > index b91a132..08e6111 100644
> > --- a/content.tex
> > +++ b/content.tex
> > @@ -965,6 +965,8 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options
> >  struct virtio_pci_notify_cap {
> >          struct virtio_pci_cap cap;
> >          le32 notify_off_multiplier; /* Multiplier for queue_notify_off. */
> > +        le16 notify_data; /* Data to be placed in the vqn field */
> > +        le16 padding; /* Pad to a dword */
> >  };
> >  \end{lstlisting}
> >  
> > @@ -984,6 +986,21 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options
> >  the same Queue Notify address for all queues.
> >  \end{note}
> >  
> > +\field{notify_data} is the data that the driver will set in the \field{vqn}
> > +field in the available buffer notification, if
> > +VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA has been negotiated.

Referring to the feature here is fine.

> > +
> > +\begin{note}
> > +If \field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0, the virtqueue number can potentially be
> > +derived by the device from the Queue Notify address, so \field{vqn} may be
> > +redundant. Some devices benefit from receiving additional data with driver
> > +notifications. An example could be a hardware device implementing multiple
> > +protocols (with virtio being one of them), so the extra notification data could
> > +serve as a notification type indication or a protocol indication.
> > +Another example could be using shared hardware memory space for driver
> > +notifications for multiple virtio devices in a trusted environment.
> > +\end{note}

This seems like a mix of generic and pci-specific considerations.

> > +
> >  \devicenormative{\paragraph}{Notification capability}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / Notification capability}
> >  The device MUST present at least one notification capability.
> >  
> > @@ -1020,6 +1037,9 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options
> >  cap.length >= queue_notify_off * notify_off_multiplier + 4
> >  \end{lstlisting}
> >  
> > +If the device offers VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA, it MUST set
> > +\field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0 in at least one capability.

Also pci-specific, so also fine.

> > +
> >  \subsubsection{ISR status capability}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / ISR status capability}
> >  
> >  The VIRTIO_PCI_CAP_ISR_CFG capability
> > @@ -1519,6 +1539,14 @@ \subsubsection{Available Buffer Notifications}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Option
> >  See \ref{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / Notification capability}
> >  for how to calculate the Queue Notify address.
> >  
> > +\drivernormative{\paragraph}{Available Buffer Notifications}{Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI-specific Initialization And Device Operation / Available Buffer Notifications}
> > +The driver SHOULD accept the VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA feature if it has
> > +been offered.

This should go into a generic section. We can assume that the feature
is available for both device and driver for a given transport.

> > +
> > +If VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA has been negotiated and
> > +\field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0, the driver MUST set the \field{vqn} field of
> > +the available buffer notification structure to the \field{notify_data} value.

This seems fine to keep here.

> > +
> >  \subsubsection{Used Buffer Notifications}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI-specific Initialization And Device Operation / Used Buffer Notifications}
> >  
> >  If a used buffer notification is necessary for a virtqueue, the device would typically act as follows:
> > @@ -2895,6 +2923,10 @@ \subsection{Feature bits}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Feature bits
> >  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR(23)] Set MAC address through control
> >      channel.
> >  
> > +\item[VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA(57)] Driver provides extra data with
> > +    available buffer notifications, to aid in notification processing by the
> > +    device.

This seems fine.

> > +
> >  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_HDRLEN(59)] Driver can provide the exact \field{hdr_len}
> >      value. Device benefits from knowing the exact header length.
> >  
> > @@ -2934,6 +2966,7 @@ \subsubsection{Feature bit requirements}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device
> >  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR] Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VQ.
> >  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_RSC_EXT] Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_HOST_TSO4 or VIRTIO_NET_F_HOST_TSO6.
> >  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_RSS] Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VQ.
> > +\item[VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA] Requires VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA.
> >  \end{description}
> >  
> >  \subsubsection{Legacy Interface: Feature bits}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device / Feature bits / Legacy Interface: Feature bits}

The new feature needs more discussion in the networking device section.
Probably something like:
- Describe the general mechanism (send some extra data with
  notifications); the 'multiple protocols' example from the note would
  make sense here.
- Mention that the actual layout of the notification data is
  transport-specific. (I think it should also be optional for a
  transport to support this feature.)
- Add a normative section that the driver SHOULD accept the feature
  (moved from the pci section).

Does that make sense?


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Re: [virtio-comment] [PATCH v5] virtio-net: Add support for the flexible driver notification structure

[Vitaly Mireyno]

Ok, will try to fix all the comments and post a new patch.

Few comments inline.

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>
>On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 18:43:41 +0100
>Halil Pasic <pasic@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 08:42:14 +0000
>> Vitaly Mireyno <vmireyno@marvell.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Currently, the driver notification (available buffer notification) has a fixed structure.
>> > If VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA has been negotiated, it includes: vqn, next_off and next_wrap.
>> > If notify_off_multiplier > 0, the VQ number can be derived by the device from the Queue Notify
>address, so vqn may be redundant.
>>
>> May or may not be redundant depending on what transport is used! For
>> the Channel I/O transport it is not redundant, because there is no
>> such thing like Qeueue Notify address or notify_off_multiplier.
>>

Right. This is PCI specific.

>> We do have space left in GPR3 which host the notification data, but
>> for the VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA feature to work with ccw, we
>> would need to introduce yet another notification data format.
>>
>> For that silicone whose features Vitaly is trying to bring into the
>> spec, ccw is very unlikely to matter. But then there was a discussion
>> on other future uses, which make me worry.
>>
>> BTW the normative statements for VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA seem to
>> be all PCI specific. How are other transports supposed to react? Not
>> accept the feature?
>>
>> Conny, what is your opinion on this new feature and mechanism?
>
>
>Agreed, we should not hide the definition of the feature in the pci section. What we can have is a
>transport-specific format defined here, and a definition for the feature referring to transport-specific
>details.
>
>>
>> Actually my knowledge of PCI is not sufficient to understand why would
>> a device play this strange cookie game (making the driver send some
>> device specific constant for each notification). But that does not matter.
>>
>> I guess there will be kernel patches for this. Or are there some
>> already? Can the implementer please put me in cc?
>>

The plan is that kernel patches will follow the spec change. Will keep you in the loop.

>> Regards,
>> Halil
>>
>> >
>> > Some devices benefit from receiving an additional data with driver notifications. This data can
>optionally replace the vqn field in the driver notification structure.
>> > In its simplest form, it would be sufficient for this data to be a per-device constant value.
>> >
>> > Changes from v4 - articles fix-up.
>> >
>> > Signed-off-by: Vitaly Mireyno <vmireyno@marvell.com>
>> > ---
>> >  content.tex | 33 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >  1 file changed, 33 insertions(+)
>> >
>> > diff --git a/content.tex b/content.tex index b91a132..08e6111 100644
>> > --- a/content.tex
>> > +++ b/content.tex
>> > @@ -965,6 +965,8 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure
>> > layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options  struct virtio_pci_notify_cap {
>> >          struct virtio_pci_cap cap;
>> >          le32 notify_off_multiplier; /* Multiplier for
>> > queue_notify_off. */
>> > +        le16 notify_data; /* Data to be placed in the vqn field */
>> > +        le16 padding; /* Pad to a dword */
>> >  };
>> >  \end{lstlisting}
>> >
>> > @@ -984,6 +986,21 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure
>> > layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options  the same Queue Notify address for all queues.
>> >  \end{note}
>> >
>> > +\field{notify_data} is the data that the driver will set in the
>> > +\field{vqn} field in the available buffer notification, if
>> > +VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA has been negotiated.
>
>Referring to the feature here is fine.
>
>> > +
>> > +\begin{note}
>> > +If \field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0, the virtqueue number can
>> > +potentially be derived by the device from the Queue Notify address,
>> > +so \field{vqn} may be redundant. Some devices benefit from
>> > +receiving additional data with driver notifications. An example
>> > +could be a hardware device implementing multiple protocols (with
>> > +virtio being one of them), so the extra notification data could serve as a notification type indication
>or a protocol indication.
>> > +Another example could be using shared hardware memory space for
>> > +driver notifications for multiple virtio devices in a trusted environment.
>> > +\end{note}
>
>This seems like a mix of generic and pci-specific considerations.
>
>> > +
>> >  \devicenormative{\paragraph}{Notification capability}{Virtio
>> > Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / Notification capability}  The device
>MUST present at least one notification capability.
>> >
>> > @@ -1020,6 +1037,9 @@ \subsubsection{Notification structure
>> > layout}\label{sec:Virtio Transport Options  cap.length >=
>> > queue_notify_off * notify_off_multiplier + 4  \end{lstlisting}
>> >
>> > +If the device offers VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA, it MUST set
>> > +\field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0 in at least one capability.
>
>Also pci-specific, so also fine.
>
>> > +
>> >  \subsubsection{ISR status capability}\label{sec:Virtio Transport
>> > Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / ISR status
>> > capability}
>> >
>> >  The VIRTIO_PCI_CAP_ISR_CFG capability @@ -1519,6 +1539,14 @@
>> > \subsubsection{Available Buffer Notifications}\label{sec:Virtio
>> > Transport Option  See \ref{sec:Virtio Transport Options / Virtio
>> > Over PCI Bus / PCI Device Layout / Notification capability}  for how to calculate the Queue Notify
>address.
>> >
>> > +\drivernormative{\paragraph}{Available Buffer Notifications}{Virtio
>> > +Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI-specific
>> > +Initialization And Device Operation / Available Buffer Notifications} The driver SHOULD accept the
>VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA feature if it has been offered.
>
>This should go into a generic section. We can assume that the feature is available for both device and
>driver for a given transport.
>
>> > +
>> > +If VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA has been negotiated and
>> > +\field{notify_off_multiplier} > 0, the driver MUST set the
>> > +\field{vqn} field of the available buffer notification structure to the \field{notify_data} value.
>
>This seems fine to keep here.
>
>> > +
>> >  \subsubsection{Used Buffer Notifications}\label{sec:Virtio
>> > Transport Options / Virtio Over PCI Bus / PCI-specific
>> > Initialization And Device Operation / Used Buffer Notifications}
>> >
>> >  If a used buffer notification is necessary for a virtqueue, the device would typically act as follows:
>> > @@ -2895,6 +2923,10 @@ \subsection{Feature bits}\label{sec:Device
>> > Types / Network Device / Feature bits  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR(23)] Set MAC
>address through control
>> >      channel.
>> >
>> > +\item[VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA(57)] Driver provides extra data with
>> > +    available buffer notifications, to aid in notification processing by the
>> > +    device.
>
>This seems fine.
>
>> > +
>> >  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_GUEST_HDRLEN(59)] Driver can provide the exact \field{hdr_len}
>> >      value. Device benefits from knowing the exact header length.
>> >
>> > @@ -2934,6 +2966,7 @@ \subsubsection{Feature bit
>> > requirements}\label{sec:Device Types / Network Device  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_MAC_ADDR]
>Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VQ.
>> >  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_RSC_EXT] Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_HOST_TSO4 or
>VIRTIO_NET_F_HOST_TSO6.
>> >  \item[VIRTIO_NET_F_RSS] Requires VIRTIO_NET_F_CTRL_VQ.
>> > +\item[VIRTIO_NET_F_NOTIF_EXTRA_DATA] Requires VIRTIO_F_NOTIFICATION_DATA.
>> >  \end{description}
>> >
>> >  \subsubsection{Legacy Interface: Feature bits}\label{sec:Device
>> > Types / Network Device / Feature bits / Legacy Interface: Feature
>> > bits}
>
>The new feature needs more discussion in the networking device section.
>Probably something like:
>- Describe the general mechanism (send some extra data with
>  notifications); the 'multiple protocols' example from the note would
>  make sense here.
>- Mention that the actual layout of the notification data is
>  transport-specific. (I think it should also be optional for a
>  transport to support this feature.)
>- Add a normative section that the driver SHOULD accept the feature
>  (moved from the pci section).
>
>Does that make sense?


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