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From: Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@redhat.com>
To: Milian Wolff <milian.wolff@kdab.com>
Cc: ahmadkhorrami <ahmadkhorrami@ut.ac.ir>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Linux-trace Users <linux-trace-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	linux-trace-users-owner@vger.kernel.org,
	Jin Yao <yao.jin@linux.intel.com>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: Wrong Perf Backtraces
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2020 13:10:02 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200331161002.GB23207@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7774721.NyiUUSuA9g@agathebauer>

Em Tue, Mar 31, 2020 at 05:29:17PM +0200, Milian Wolff escreveu:
> On Dienstag, 31. März 2020 17:02:37 CEST ahmadkhorrami wrote:
> > Hi Milian,
> > Thanks for the detailed answer. Well, the bug you mentioned is bad news.
> > Because I sample using uppp. Perhaps this leads to these weird traces.
> 
> Please read the full thread from here on:
> 
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2018/11/2/86
> 
> But as I said - it should be easy to check if this is really the issue are 
> running into or not: Try to see if you see the problem when you sample without 
> `ppp`. If not, then you can be pretty sure it's this issue. If you still see 
> it, then it's something different.
> 
> > Is this a purely software bug?
> 
> I wouldn't call it that, personally. Rather, it's a limitation in the hardware 
> and software. We would need something completely different to "fix" this, i.e. 
> something like a deeper LBR. That's btw another alternative you could try: 
> `perf record --call-graph lbr` and live with the short call stacks. But at 
> least these should be correct (afaik). For me personally they are always far 
> too short and thus not practical to use in reality.

Probably this may help:

  From: Kan Liang <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
  Subject: [PATCH V4 00/17] Stitch LBR call stack (Perf Tools)
  Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2020 13:25:00 -0700
  https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20200319202517.23423-1-kan.liang@linux.intel.com/

- Arnaldo


  reply	other threads:[~2020-03-31 16:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <157597d74ff17f781d9de7e7e3defd13@ut.ac.ir>
2020-03-22 20:24 ` Wrong Perf Backtraces ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-23  0:34   ` Steven Rostedt
     [not found]     ` <21b3df4080709f193d62b159887e2a83@ut.ac.ir>
2020-03-23  8:49       ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-23 10:03         ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-25 15:18           ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-25 15:46             ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-25 18:54               ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-25 18:58               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-03-25 19:10                 ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-25 19:28                   ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo
2020-03-25 20:01                     ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-25 20:39                       ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-25 21:02                         ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-25 21:09                           ` Steven Rostedt
2020-03-25 21:37                             ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-25 21:46                               ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-25 22:21                                 ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-25 23:09                                   ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-26  9:59                                     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-26 13:20                                       ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-26 15:39                                         ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-26 18:19                                           ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-26 18:21                                             ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-27  9:20                                             ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-27 10:59                                               ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-27 11:04                                                 ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-27 12:10                                                   ` Milian Wolff
2020-03-27 12:58                                                     ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-27 13:25                                                       ` Milian Wolff
2020-03-27 13:33                                                         ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-27 18:43                                                   ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-27 22:37                                                     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-27 23:12                                                       ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-28 23:34                                                         ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-29  0:43                                                           ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-29  1:16                                                             ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-29 11:19                                                               ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-29 11:52                                                                 ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-29 12:08                                                                   ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-29 12:39                                                                     ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-29 13:50                                                                       ` Milian Wolff
2020-03-29 14:23                                                                         ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-29 19:20                                                                         ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-30  6:09                                                                           ` Milian Wolff
2020-03-30 13:07                                                                             ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-30 13:49                                                                               ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-30 19:05                                                                                 ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-30 21:05                                                                                   ` debuginfod-based dwarf downloading, was " Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-31  9:26                                                                                     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-31 14:00                                                                                       ` Frank Ch. Eigler
2020-03-31  4:43                                                                                   ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-31  9:30                                                                                     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-31 11:53                                                                                       ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-31 12:43                                                                                   ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-31 13:20                                                                                     ` Jiri Olsa
2020-03-31 13:39                                                                                       ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-31 14:44                                                                                         ` Milian Wolff
2020-03-31 15:02                                                                                           ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-31 15:05                                                                                             ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-31 15:29                                                                                             ` Milian Wolff
2020-03-31 16:10                                                                                               ` Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo [this message]
2020-03-31 19:20                                                                                                 ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-31 19:17                                                                                               ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-03-31 20:57                                                                                               ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-04-04  1:01                                                                                                 ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-04-11 16:42                                                                                                   ` ahmadkhorrami
2020-04-11 21:04                                                                                                     ` ahmadkhorrami

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