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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>,
	Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>, Al Grant <Al.Grant@arm.com>,
	James Clark <James.Clark@arm.com>,
	maz@kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: perf_event: Fix time_offset for arch timer
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 17:45:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200430164513.GG25258@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200430162750.GD13575@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 06:27:50PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 03:58:24PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 05:35:45PM +0800, Leo Yan wrote:
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * Since arch timer is enabled ealier than sched clock registration,
> > > +	 * compuate the delta (in nanosecond unit) between the arch timer
> > > +	 * counter and sched clock, assign the delta to time_offset and
> > > +	 * perf tool can use it for timestamp calculation.
> > > +	 *
> > > +	 * The formula for conversion arch timer cycle to ns is:
> > > +	 *   quot = (cyc >> time_shift);
> > > +	 *   rem  = cyc & ((1 << time_shift) - 1);
> > > +	 *   ns   = quot * time_mult + ((rem * time_mult) >> time_shift);
> > > +	 */
> > > +	count = arch_timer_read_counter();
> > > +	quot = count >> shift;
> > > +	rem = count & ((1 << shift) - 1);
> > > +	ns = quot * userpg->time_mult + ((rem * userpg->time_mult) >> shift);
> > > +	userpg->time_offset = now - ns;
> > 
> > Hmm, reading the counter and calculating the delta feels horribly
> > approximate to me. It would be much better if we could get hold of the
> > initial epoch cycles from the point at which sched_clock was initialised
> > using the counter. This represents the true cycle delta between the counter
> > and what sched_clock uses for 0 ns.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I can't see a straightforward way to grab that information.
> > It looks like x86 pulls this directly from the TSC driver.
> 
> Yeah, and I'm thinking you should do the same. IIRC ARM uses this
> kernel/time/sched_clock.c thing, and if I read that right, the struct
> clock_data there has all the bits you need here.
> 
> So I'm thinking that you might want to add a helper function here to get
> you the good stuff.

Thanks, Peter.

Leo -- do you think you could look at implementing this as part of a v2,
please?

Will

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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	maz@kernel.org, Al Grant <Al.Grant@arm.com>,
	Mathieu Poirier <mathieu.poirier@linaro.org>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, James Clark <James.Clark@arm.com>,
	Leo Yan <leo.yan@linaro.org>, Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Mike Leach <mike.leach@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arm64: perf_event: Fix time_offset for arch timer
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 17:45:14 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200430164513.GG25258@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200430162750.GD13575@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 06:27:50PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2020 at 03:58:24PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 05:35:45PM +0800, Leo Yan wrote:
> > > +	/*
> > > +	 * Since arch timer is enabled ealier than sched clock registration,
> > > +	 * compuate the delta (in nanosecond unit) between the arch timer
> > > +	 * counter and sched clock, assign the delta to time_offset and
> > > +	 * perf tool can use it for timestamp calculation.
> > > +	 *
> > > +	 * The formula for conversion arch timer cycle to ns is:
> > > +	 *   quot = (cyc >> time_shift);
> > > +	 *   rem  = cyc & ((1 << time_shift) - 1);
> > > +	 *   ns   = quot * time_mult + ((rem * time_mult) >> time_shift);
> > > +	 */
> > > +	count = arch_timer_read_counter();
> > > +	quot = count >> shift;
> > > +	rem = count & ((1 << shift) - 1);
> > > +	ns = quot * userpg->time_mult + ((rem * userpg->time_mult) >> shift);
> > > +	userpg->time_offset = now - ns;
> > 
> > Hmm, reading the counter and calculating the delta feels horribly
> > approximate to me. It would be much better if we could get hold of the
> > initial epoch cycles from the point at which sched_clock was initialised
> > using the counter. This represents the true cycle delta between the counter
> > and what sched_clock uses for 0 ns.
> > 
> > Unfortunately, I can't see a straightforward way to grab that information.
> > It looks like x86 pulls this directly from the TSC driver.
> 
> Yeah, and I'm thinking you should do the same. IIRC ARM uses this
> kernel/time/sched_clock.c thing, and if I read that right, the struct
> clock_data there has all the bits you need here.
> 
> So I'm thinking that you might want to add a helper function here to get
> you the good stuff.

Thanks, Peter.

Leo -- do you think you could look at implementing this as part of a v2,
please?

Will

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Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-03-20  9:35 [PATCH] arm64: perf_event: Fix time_offset for arch timer Leo Yan
2020-03-20  9:35 ` Leo Yan
2020-04-01  1:24 ` Leo Yan
2020-04-01  1:24   ` Leo Yan
2020-04-30 14:58 ` Will Deacon
2020-04-30 14:58   ` Will Deacon
2020-04-30 15:29   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-04-30 15:29     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-04-30 16:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-30 16:04       ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-30 16:18       ` Will Deacon
2020-04-30 16:18         ` Will Deacon
2020-04-30 17:33         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-04-30 17:33           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-05-01 15:14         ` Leo Yan
2020-05-01 15:14           ` Leo Yan
2020-05-01 15:26           ` Will Deacon
2020-05-01 15:26             ` Will Deacon
2020-05-01 16:10             ` Leo Yan
2020-05-01 16:10               ` Leo Yan
2020-05-01 17:13               ` Will Deacon
2020-05-01 17:13                 ` Will Deacon
2020-05-01 15:29           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-05-01 15:29             ` Marc Zyngier
2020-04-30 16:27   ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-30 16:27     ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-04-30 16:45     ` Will Deacon [this message]
2020-04-30 16:45       ` Will Deacon

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