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From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Adding arch-specific user ABI documentation in linux-man
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 13:43:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200505124351.GF1551@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200505104454.GC19710@willie-the-truck>

On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 11:44:55AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> Michael has been nagging me on and off about that for, what, 10 years now?
> I would therefore be very much in favour of having our ptrace extensions
> documented!
> 
> We could even put this stuff under Documentation/arm64/man/ if it's deemed
> too CPU-specific for the man-pages project, but my preference would still
> be for it to be hosted there alongside all the other man pages.

Stuffing random things into the kernel tree is painful for some people.

For example, if you cross-build your kernel, then the stuff in the
tools/ subdirectory is totally useless (I think everything except
perf) because you can't build it.

Let's stop making the mistake of constantly shoving stuff into the
kernel source tree.

-- 
RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
FTTC broadband for 0.8mile line in suburbia: sync at 10.2Mbps down 587kbps up

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From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux-I+IVW8TIWO2tmTQ+vhA3Yw@public.gmane.org>
To: Will Deacon <will-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-arch-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-man-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Michael Kerrisk
	<mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Vincenzo Frascino
	<vincenzo.frascino-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Adding arch-specific user ABI documentation in linux-man
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 13:43:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200505124351.GF1551@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200505104454.GC19710@willie-the-truck>

On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 11:44:55AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> Michael has been nagging me on and off about that for, what, 10 years now?
> I would therefore be very much in favour of having our ptrace extensions
> documented!
> 
> We could even put this stuff under Documentation/arm64/man/ if it's deemed
> too CPU-specific for the man-pages project, but my preference would still
> be for it to be hosted there alongside all the other man pages.

Stuffing random things into the kernel tree is painful for some people.

For example, if you cross-build your kernel, then the stuff in the
tools/ subdirectory is totally useless (I think everything except
perf) because you can't build it.

Let's stop making the mistake of constantly shoving stuff into the
kernel source tree.

-- 
RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
FTTC broadband for 0.8mile line in suburbia: sync at 10.2Mbps down 587kbps up

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>
To: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Vincenzo Frascino <vincenzo.frascino@arm.com>,
	Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: RFC: Adding arch-specific user ABI documentation in linux-man
Date: Tue, 5 May 2020 13:43:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200505124351.GF1551@shell.armlinux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200505104454.GC19710@willie-the-truck>

On Tue, May 05, 2020 at 11:44:55AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote:
> Michael has been nagging me on and off about that for, what, 10 years now?
> I would therefore be very much in favour of having our ptrace extensions
> documented!
> 
> We could even put this stuff under Documentation/arm64/man/ if it's deemed
> too CPU-specific for the man-pages project, but my preference would still
> be for it to be hosted there alongside all the other man pages.

Stuffing random things into the kernel tree is painful for some people.

For example, if you cross-build your kernel, then the stuff in the
tools/ subdirectory is totally useless (I think everything except
perf) because you can't build it.

Let's stop making the mistake of constantly shoving stuff into the
kernel source tree.

-- 
RMK's Patch system: https://www.armlinux.org.uk/developer/patches/
FTTC broadband for 0.8mile line in suburbia: sync at 10.2Mbps down 587kbps up

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-05 12:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-04 15:32 RFC: Adding arch-specific user ABI documentation in linux-man Dave Martin
2020-05-04 15:32 ` Dave Martin
2020-05-05  7:45 ` AW: " Walter Harms
2020-05-05  7:45   ` Walter Harms
2020-05-05  7:45   ` Walter Harms
2020-05-05  7:45   ` Walter Harms
2020-05-05 10:55   ` Dave Martin
2020-05-05 10:55     ` Dave Martin
2020-05-05 10:55     ` Dave Martin
2020-05-05 10:55     ` Dave Martin
2020-05-05 10:44 ` RFC: " Will Deacon
2020-05-05 10:44   ` Will Deacon
2020-05-05 11:05   ` Dave Martin
2020-05-05 11:05     ` Dave Martin
2020-05-05 11:05     ` Dave Martin
2020-05-05 12:14     ` Will Deacon
2020-05-05 12:14       ` Will Deacon
2020-05-05 12:14       ` Will Deacon
2020-05-06 10:47     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-06 10:47       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-05 12:43   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin [this message]
2020-05-05 12:43     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-05 12:43     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-05 13:06     ` Will Deacon
2020-05-05 13:06       ` Will Deacon
2020-05-05 13:16       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-05 13:16         ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-05 13:16         ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-06 10:47     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-06 10:47       ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-06 10:47   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-06 10:47     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-06 10:47 ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-06 10:47   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-06 10:47   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2020-05-06 14:29   ` Dave Martin
2020-05-06 14:29     ` Dave Martin
2020-05-06 14:29     ` Dave Martin

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