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From: Calvin Johnson <calvin.johnson@oss.nxp.com>
To: Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com>
Cc: Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	linux.cj@gmail.com, Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	Cristi Sovaiala <cristian.sovaiala@nxp.com>,
	Florin Laurentiu Chiculita <florinlaurentiu.chiculita@nxp.com>,
	Ioana Ciornei <ioana.ciornei@nxp.com>,
	Madalin Bucur <madalin.bucur@oss.nxp.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
	Varun Sethi <V.Sethi@nxp.com>,
	"Rajesh V . Bikkina" <rajesh.bikkina@nxp.com>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Diana Madalina Craciun <diana.craciun@nxp.com>,
	netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Marcin Wojtas <mw@semihalf.com>,
	Laurentiu Tudor <laurentiu.tudor@nxp.com>,
	Makarand Pawagi <makarand.pawagi@nxp.com>,
	linux-arm Mailing List <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Pankaj Bansal <pankaj.bansal@nxp.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH v3 4/5] net: phy: Introduce fwnode_get_phy_id()
Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 21:37:55 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200508160755.GB10296@lsv03152.swis.in-blr01.nxp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ab4ca4-9c34-4cdd-4413-3b4cdf96727d@arm.com>

On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 02:54:09PM -0500, Jeremy Linton wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 5/7/20 12:27 PM, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 4:26 PM Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com> wrote:
> > > On 5/5/20 8:29 AM, Calvin Johnson wrote:
> > 
> > > > +             if (sscanf(cp, "ethernet-phy-id%4x.%4x",
> > > > +                        &upper, &lower) == 2) {
> > > > +                     *phy_id = ((upper & 0xFFFF) << 16) | (lower & 0xFFFF);
> > > > +                     return 0;
> > > > +             }
> > 
> > > Isn't the ACPI _CID() conceptually similar to the DT compatible
> > > property?
> > 
> > Where?
> 
> Not, sure I understand exactly what your asking. AFAIK, in general the dt
> property is used to select a device driver/etc based on a more to less
> compatible set of substrings. The phy case is a bit different because it
> codes a numerical part number into the string rather than just using
> arbitrary strings to select a driver and device. But it uses that as a
> vendor selector for binding to the correct driver/device.
> 
> Rephrasing the ACPI spec, the _CID() is either a single compatible id, or a
> list of ids in order of preference. Each id is either a HID (string or EISA
> type id) or a bus specific string encoding vendor/device/etc. (https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.7-rc4/source/drivers/acpi/acpica/utids.c#L186).
> One of the examples is "PCI\VEN_vvvv&DEV_dddd"
> 
> So that latter case seems to be almost exactly what we have here.

Got your point. Yes, the ACPI spec says the same.
If we are using _CID as a string, then it must be a string that uses a
bus-specific nomenclature. This AFAIU may take the format
"PHY\VEN_IDvvvv&ID_DDDD" as you mentioned below and not
"ethernet-phy-id004d.d072" as used in DT.
So, we need to define it some where in the Linux ACPI Documentation.
I don't see any best place to document this. Any suggestions?

> 
> > 
> > > It even appears to be getting used in a similar way to
> > > identify particular phy drivers in this case.
> > 
> > _CID() is a string. It can't be used as pure number.
> > 
> 
> It does have a numeric version defined for EISA types. OTOH I suspect that
> your right. If there were a "PHY\VEN_IDvvvv&ID_DDDD" definition, it may not
> be ideal to parse it. Instead the normal ACPI model of exactly matching the
> complete string in the phy driver might be more appropriate.

IMO, it should be fine to parse the string to extract the phy_id. Is there any
reason why we cannot do this?

> 
> Similarly to how I suspect the next patch's use of "compatible" isn't ideal
> either, because whether a device is c45 or not, should tend to be fixed to a
> particular vendor/device implementation and not a firmware provided
> property.

I tend to agree with you on this. Even for DT, ideal case, IMO should be:

1) mdiobus_scan scans the mdiobus for c22 devices by reading phy id from
registers 2 and 3
2) if not found scan for c45 devices <= looks like this is missing in Linux
3) look for phy_id from compatible string.

Meanwhile, please note some usage of compatible property in edk2-platforms:
https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-platforms/blob/master/Platform/96Boards/Secure96Dxe/Secure96.asl#L20
https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-platforms/blob/master/Silicon/Marvell/Armada7k8k/AcpiTables/Armada80x0McBin/Dsdt.asl#L280
https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-platforms/blob/master/Silicon/Socionext/SynQuacer/Drivers/PlatformDxe/Optee.asl#L17

Regards
Calvin

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From: Calvin Johnson <calvin.johnson@oss.nxp.com>
To: Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>,
	Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
	"Rafael J . Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
	Cristi Sovaiala <cristian.sovaiala@nxp.com>,
	Ioana Ciornei <ioana.ciornei@nxp.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"Rajesh V . Bikkina" <rajesh.bikkina@nxp.com>,
	Pankaj Bansal <pankaj.bansal@nxp.com>,
	Russell King - ARM Linux admin <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Diana Madalina Craciun <diana.craciun@nxp.com>,
	ACPI Devel Maling List <linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	Florin Laurentiu Chiculita <florinlaurentiu.chiculita@nxp.com>,
	Madalin Bucur <madalin.bucur@oss.nxp.com>,
	Makarand Pawagi <makarand.pawagi@nxp.com>,
	Varun Sethi <V.Sethi@nxp.com>, Marcin Wojtas <mw@semihalf.com>,
	linux-arm Mailing List <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Laurentiu Tudor <laurentiu.tudor@nxp.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux.cj@gmail.com, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH v3 4/5] net: phy: Introduce fwnode_get_phy_id()
Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 21:37:55 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200508160755.GB10296@lsv03152.swis.in-blr01.nxp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ab4ca4-9c34-4cdd-4413-3b4cdf96727d@arm.com>

On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 02:54:09PM -0500, Jeremy Linton wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 5/7/20 12:27 PM, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> > On Thu, May 7, 2020 at 4:26 PM Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com> wrote:
> > > On 5/5/20 8:29 AM, Calvin Johnson wrote:
> > 
> > > > +             if (sscanf(cp, "ethernet-phy-id%4x.%4x",
> > > > +                        &upper, &lower) == 2) {
> > > > +                     *phy_id = ((upper & 0xFFFF) << 16) | (lower & 0xFFFF);
> > > > +                     return 0;
> > > > +             }
> > 
> > > Isn't the ACPI _CID() conceptually similar to the DT compatible
> > > property?
> > 
> > Where?
> 
> Not, sure I understand exactly what your asking. AFAIK, in general the dt
> property is used to select a device driver/etc based on a more to less
> compatible set of substrings. The phy case is a bit different because it
> codes a numerical part number into the string rather than just using
> arbitrary strings to select a driver and device. But it uses that as a
> vendor selector for binding to the correct driver/device.
> 
> Rephrasing the ACPI spec, the _CID() is either a single compatible id, or a
> list of ids in order of preference. Each id is either a HID (string or EISA
> type id) or a bus specific string encoding vendor/device/etc. (https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v5.7-rc4/source/drivers/acpi/acpica/utids.c#L186).
> One of the examples is "PCI\VEN_vvvv&DEV_dddd"
> 
> So that latter case seems to be almost exactly what we have here.

Got your point. Yes, the ACPI spec says the same.
If we are using _CID as a string, then it must be a string that uses a
bus-specific nomenclature. This AFAIU may take the format
"PHY\VEN_IDvvvv&ID_DDDD" as you mentioned below and not
"ethernet-phy-id004d.d072" as used in DT.
So, we need to define it some where in the Linux ACPI Documentation.
I don't see any best place to document this. Any suggestions?

> 
> > 
> > > It even appears to be getting used in a similar way to
> > > identify particular phy drivers in this case.
> > 
> > _CID() is a string. It can't be used as pure number.
> > 
> 
> It does have a numeric version defined for EISA types. OTOH I suspect that
> your right. If there were a "PHY\VEN_IDvvvv&ID_DDDD" definition, it may not
> be ideal to parse it. Instead the normal ACPI model of exactly matching the
> complete string in the phy driver might be more appropriate.

IMO, it should be fine to parse the string to extract the phy_id. Is there any
reason why we cannot do this?

> 
> Similarly to how I suspect the next patch's use of "compatible" isn't ideal
> either, because whether a device is c45 or not, should tend to be fixed to a
> particular vendor/device implementation and not a firmware provided
> property.

I tend to agree with you on this. Even for DT, ideal case, IMO should be:

1) mdiobus_scan scans the mdiobus for c22 devices by reading phy id from
registers 2 and 3
2) if not found scan for c45 devices <= looks like this is missing in Linux
3) look for phy_id from compatible string.

Meanwhile, please note some usage of compatible property in edk2-platforms:
https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-platforms/blob/master/Platform/96Boards/Secure96Dxe/Secure96.asl#L20
https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-platforms/blob/master/Silicon/Marvell/Armada7k8k/AcpiTables/Armada80x0McBin/Dsdt.asl#L280
https://github.com/tianocore/edk2-platforms/blob/master/Silicon/Socionext/SynQuacer/Drivers/PlatformDxe/Optee.asl#L17

Regards
Calvin

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Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-05 13:29 [net-next PATCH v3 0/5] Introduce new fwnode based APIs to support phylink and phy layers Calvin Johnson
2020-05-05 13:29 ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-05 13:29 ` [net-next PATCH v3 1/5] net: phy: Introduce phy related fwnode functions Calvin Johnson
2020-05-05 13:29   ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-05 14:44   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-05 14:44     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-05 23:21   ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-05 23:21     ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-05 23:39   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-05 23:39     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-06  0:07   ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-06  0:07     ` kbuild test robot
2020-05-05 13:29 ` [net-next PATCH v3 2/5] net: phy: alphabetically sort header includes Calvin Johnson
2020-05-05 13:29   ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-05 13:29 ` [net-next PATCH v3 3/5] phylink: Introduce phylink_fwnode_phy_connect() Calvin Johnson
2020-05-05 13:29   ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-05 14:13   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-05-05 14:13     ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-05-05 14:35   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-05 14:35     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-05 13:29 ` [net-next PATCH v3 4/5] net: phy: Introduce fwnode_get_phy_id() Calvin Johnson
2020-05-05 13:29   ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-05 14:15   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-05-05 14:15     ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-05-05 14:20     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-05 14:20       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-07 13:26   ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-07 13:26     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-07 17:27     ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-05-07 17:27       ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-05-07 19:54       ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-07 19:54         ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-08 16:07         ` Calvin Johnson [this message]
2020-05-08 16:07           ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-08 18:13           ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-08 18:13             ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-08 19:18             ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-08 19:18               ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-08 20:27               ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-08 20:27                 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-08 22:48                 ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-08 22:48                   ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-08 23:42                   ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-08 23:42                     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-09  0:11                     ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-09  0:11                       ` Jeremy Linton
2020-05-11  8:00                     ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-11  8:00                       ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-11  9:38                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-11  9:38                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-11 10:29                         ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-11 10:29                           ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-11 10:48                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-11 10:48                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-11 12:02                             ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-11 12:02                               ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-11 13:04                       ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-11 13:04                         ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-11 13:35                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-11 13:35                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2020-05-11 14:59                         ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-11 14:59                           ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-11  7:39                   ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-11  7:39                     ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-11  5:52             ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-11  5:52               ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-11 12:53               ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-11 12:53                 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-05 13:29 ` [net-next PATCH v3 5/5] net: mdiobus: Introduce fwnode_mdiobus_register_phy() Calvin Johnson
2020-05-05 13:29   ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-05 14:22   ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-05-05 14:22     ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-05-07  7:44     ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-07  7:44       ` Calvin Johnson
2020-05-07  9:10       ` Andy Shevchenko
2020-05-07  9:10         ` Andy Shevchenko

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