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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, John Garry <john.garry@huawei.com>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V10 07/11] blk-mq: stop to handle IO and drain IO before hctx becomes inactive
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 09:45:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200511014538.GB1418834@T590> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1918187b-2baa-5703-63ee-097a307cf594@acm.org>

On Sat, May 09, 2020 at 07:18:46AM -0700, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On 2020-05-08 21:10, Ming Lei wrote:
> > queue freezing can only be applied on the request queue level, and not
> > hctx level. When requests can't be completed, wait freezing just hangs
> > for-ever.
> 
> That's indeed what I meant: freeze the entire queue instead of
> introducing a new mechanism that freezes only one hardware queue at a time.

No, the issue is exactly that one single hctx becomes inactive, and
other hctx are still active and workable.

If one entire queue is frozen because of some of CPUs are offline, how
can userspace submit IO to this disk? You suggestion justs makes the
disk not usable, that won't be accepted.

> 
> Please clarify what "when requests can't be completed" means. Are you
> referring to requests that take longer than expected due to e.g. a
> controller lockup or to requests that take a long time intentionally?

If all CPUs in one hctx->cpumask are offline, the managed irq of this hw
queue will be shutdown by genirq code, so any in-flight IO won't be
completed or timedout after the managed irq is shutdown because of cpu
offline.

Some drivers may implement timeout handler, so these in-flight requests
will be timed out, but still not friendly behaviour given the default
timeout is too long.

Some drivers don't implement timeout handler at all, so these IO won't
be completed.

> The former case is handled by the block layer timeout handler. I propose
> to handle the latter case by introducing a new callback function pointer
> in struct blk_mq_ops that aborts all outstanding requests.

As I mentioned, timeout isn't a friendly behavior. Or not every driver
implements timeout handler or well enough.

> Request queue
> freezing is such an important block layer mechanism that I think we
> should require that all block drivers support freezing a request queue
> in a short time.

Firstly, we just need to drain in-flight requests and re-submit queued
requests from one single hctx, and queue wide freezing causes whole
userspace IOs blocked unnecessarily.

Secondly, some requests may not be completed at all, so freezing can't
work because freeze_wait may hang forever.


Thanks, 
Ming


  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-11  1:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-05  2:09 [PATCH V10 00/11] blk-mq: improvement CPU hotplug Ming Lei
2020-05-05  2:09 ` [PATCH V10 01/11] block: clone nr_integrity_segments and write_hint in blk_rq_prep_clone Ming Lei
2020-05-05  2:09 ` [PATCH V10 02/11] block: add helper for copying request Ming Lei
2020-05-05  2:09 ` [PATCH V10 03/11] blk-mq: mark blk_mq_get_driver_tag as static Ming Lei
2020-05-05  2:09 ` [PATCH V10 04/11] blk-mq: assign rq->tag in blk_mq_get_driver_tag Ming Lei
2020-05-05  2:09 ` [PATCH V10 05/11] blk-mq: support rq filter callback when iterating rqs Ming Lei
2020-05-08 23:32   ` Bart Van Assche
2020-05-09  0:18     ` Bart Van Assche
2020-05-09  2:05       ` Ming Lei
2020-05-09  3:08         ` Bart Van Assche
2020-05-09  3:52           ` Ming Lei
2020-05-05  2:09 ` [PATCH V10 06/11] blk-mq: prepare for draining IO when hctx's all CPUs are offline Ming Lei
2020-05-05  6:14   ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-05-08 23:26   ` Bart Van Assche
2020-05-09  2:09     ` Ming Lei
2020-05-09  3:11       ` Bart Van Assche
2020-05-09  3:56         ` Ming Lei
2020-05-05  2:09 ` [PATCH V10 07/11] blk-mq: stop to handle IO and drain IO before hctx becomes inactive Ming Lei
2020-05-08 23:39   ` Bart Van Assche
2020-05-09  2:20     ` Ming Lei
2020-05-09  3:24       ` Bart Van Assche
2020-05-09  4:10         ` Ming Lei
2020-05-09 14:18           ` Bart Van Assche
2020-05-11  1:45             ` Ming Lei [this message]
2020-05-11  3:20               ` Bart Van Assche
2020-05-11  3:48                 ` Ming Lei
2020-05-11 20:56                   ` Bart Van Assche
2020-05-12  1:25                     ` Ming Lei
2020-05-05  2:09 ` [PATCH V10 08/11] block: add blk_end_flush_machinery Ming Lei
2020-05-05  2:09 ` [PATCH V10 09/11] blk-mq: add blk_mq_hctx_handle_dead_cpu for handling cpu dead Ming Lei
2020-05-05  2:09 ` [PATCH V10 10/11] blk-mq: re-submit IO in case that hctx is inactive Ming Lei
2020-05-05  2:09 ` [PATCH V10 11/11] block: deactivate hctx when the hctx is actually inactive Ming Lei
2020-05-09 14:07   ` Bart Van Assche
2020-05-11  2:11     ` Ming Lei
2020-05-11  3:30       ` Bart Van Assche
2020-05-11  4:08         ` Ming Lei
2020-05-11 20:52           ` Bart Van Assche
2020-05-12  1:43             ` Ming Lei
2020-05-12  2:08             ` Ming Lei
2020-05-08 21:49 ` [PATCH V10 00/11] blk-mq: improvement CPU hotplug Ming Lei
2020-05-09  3:17   ` Jens Axboe

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