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From: Oleksij Rempel <o.rempel@pengutronix.de>
To: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
Cc: Christian Herber <christian.herber@nxp.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>, Marek Vasut <marex@denx.de>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pengutronix Kernel Team <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	David Jander <david@protonic.nl>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Heiner Kallweit <hkallweit1@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [EXT] Re: [PATCH net-next v1] net: phy: tja11xx: add cable-test support
Date: Thu, 14 May 2020 19:27:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200514172702.pra445q73dcjdnjc@pengutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200514160152.GU499265@lunn.ch>

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On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 06:01:52PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 03:47:16PM +0000, Christian Herber wrote:
> > Hi Andrew,
> > 
> > > On Wed, May 13, 2020 at 03:39:00PM +0200, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > >> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 02:09:59PM +0200, Oleksij Rempel wrote:
> > >>  ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_RESULT_CODE_ACTIVE_PARTNER - the link partner is active.
> > >>
> > >>      The TJA1102 is able to detect it if partner link is master.
> > >>
> > > master is not a cable diagnostics issue. This is a configuration
> > > issue.
> > 
> 
> > Master is very relevant for cable diagnostics, as a cable
> > measurement should not be done with an active link partner on the
> > other end (i.e. a PHY in master mode trying to train the link).
> 
> > So if the measurement detects an active link partner disturbing the
> > measurement, it is important to report this to the user.
> 
> So with 'normal' PHYs, we use autoneg to make the link go quiet. But
> you don't have autoneg.
> 
> If there is no way to force the link quiet, then
> ETHTOOL_A_CABLE_RESULT_CODE_ACTIVE_PARTNER makes sense. But we need to
> keep the meaning generic. I don't want it to mean a T1 PHY with an
> active master peer. It should be usable for any reason the link cannot
> be made to go quiet.

It looks for me, like AT803X_CDT_STATUS_STAT_FAIL has the same reason as
ACTIVE PERTNER (Master) on TJA11xx.

What kind of meaning, naming would be generic?


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  reply	other threads:[~2020-05-14 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-13 12:34 [PATCH net-next v1] net: phy: tja11xx: add cable-test support Oleksij Rempel
2020-05-13 13:39 ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-13 17:40   ` Oleksij Rempel
2020-05-13 18:01     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-14 12:09       ` Oleksij Rempel
2020-05-14 13:38         ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-14 15:47           ` [EXT] " Christian Herber
2020-05-14 16:01             ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-14 17:27               ` Oleksij Rempel [this message]
2020-05-13 19:30     ` Andrew Lunn
2020-05-13 19:34 ` Florian Fainelli
2020-05-13 19:36 ` David Miller

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