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* [RFC PATCH] xfs: transfer freed blocks to blk res when lazy accounting
@ 2020-05-22 17:18 Brian Foster
  2020-05-23  1:36 ` Darrick J. Wong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Brian Foster @ 2020-05-22 17:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-xfs; +Cc: Darrick J . Wong

Signed-off-by: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
---

Darrick mentioned on IRC a few days ago that he'd seen an issue that
looked similar to the problem with the rmapbt based extent swap
algorithm when the associated inodes happen to bounce between extent and
btree format. That problem caused repeated bmapbt block allocations and
frees that exhausted the transaction block reservation across the
sequence of transaction rolls. The workaround for that was to use an
oversized block reservation, but that is not a generic or efficient
solution.

I was originally playing around with some hacks to set an optional base
block reservation on the transaction that we would attempt to replenish
across transaction roll sequences as the block reservation depletes, but
eventually noticed that there isn't much difference between stuffing
block frees in the transaction reservation counter vs. the delta counter
when lazy sb accounting is enabled (which is required for v5 supers). As
such, the following patch seems to address the rmapbt issue in my
isolated tests.

I think one tradeoff with this logic is that chains of rolling/freeing
transactions would now aggregate freed space until the final transaction
commits vs. as transactions roll. It's not immediately clear to me how
much of an issue that is, but it sounds a bit dicey when considering
things like truncates of large files. This behavior could still be tied
to a transaction flag to restrict its use to situations like rmapbt
swapext, however. Anyways, this is mostly untested outside of the extent
swap use case so I wanted to throw this on the list as an RFC for now
and see if anybody has thoughts or other ideas.

Brian

 fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c | 11 -----------
 fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c     |  4 ++++
 2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)

diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
index f37f5cc4b19f..74b3bad6c414 100644
--- a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
+++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
@@ -1628,17 +1628,6 @@ xfs_swap_extents(
 		 */
 		resblks = XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, ipnext, w);
 		resblks +=  XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, tipnext, w);
-
-		/*
-		 * Handle the corner case where either inode might straddle the
-		 * btree format boundary. If so, the inode could bounce between
-		 * btree <-> extent format on unmap -> remap cycles, freeing and
-		 * allocating a bmapbt block each time.
-		 */
-		if (ipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w) + 1))
-			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w);
-		if (tipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w) + 1))
-			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w);
 	}
 	error = xfs_trans_alloc(mp, &M_RES(mp)->tr_write, resblks, 0, 0, &tp);
 	if (error)
diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
index 28b983ff8b11..b421d27445c1 100644
--- a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
+++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
@@ -370,6 +370,10 @@ xfs_trans_mod_sb(
 			tp->t_blk_res_used += (uint)-delta;
 			if (tp->t_blk_res_used > tp->t_blk_res)
 				xfs_force_shutdown(mp, SHUTDOWN_CORRUPT_INCORE);
+		} else if (delta > 0 &&
+			   xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb)) {
+			tp->t_blk_res += delta;
+			delta = 0;
 		}
 		tp->t_fdblocks_delta += delta;
 		if (xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb))
-- 
2.21.1


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* Re: [RFC PATCH] xfs: transfer freed blocks to blk res when lazy accounting
  2020-05-22 17:18 [RFC PATCH] xfs: transfer freed blocks to blk res when lazy accounting Brian Foster
@ 2020-05-23  1:36 ` Darrick J. Wong
  2020-05-26 18:16   ` Brian Foster
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Darrick J. Wong @ 2020-05-23  1:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Brian Foster; +Cc: linux-xfs

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 01:18:28PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> Signed-off-by: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
> ---
> 
> Darrick mentioned on IRC a few days ago that he'd seen an issue that
> looked similar to the problem with the rmapbt based extent swap
> algorithm when the associated inodes happen to bounce between extent and
> btree format. That problem caused repeated bmapbt block allocations and
> frees that exhausted the transaction block reservation across the
> sequence of transaction rolls. The workaround for that was to use an
> oversized block reservation, but that is not a generic or efficient
> solution.
> 
> I was originally playing around with some hacks to set an optional base
> block reservation on the transaction that we would attempt to replenish
> across transaction roll sequences as the block reservation depletes, but
> eventually noticed that there isn't much difference between stuffing
> block frees in the transaction reservation counter vs. the delta counter
> when lazy sb accounting is enabled (which is required for v5 supers). As
> such, the following patch seems to address the rmapbt issue in my
> isolated tests.
> 
> I think one tradeoff with this logic is that chains of rolling/freeing
> transactions would now aggregate freed space until the final transaction
> commits vs. as transactions roll. It's not immediately clear to me how
> much of an issue that is, but it sounds a bit dicey when considering
> things like truncates of large files. This behavior could still be tied
> to a transaction flag to restrict its use to situations like rmapbt
> swapext, however. Anyways, this is mostly untested outside of the extent
> swap use case so I wanted to throw this on the list as an RFC for now
> and see if anybody has thoughts or other ideas.

Hmm, well, this /would/ fix the immediate problem of running out of
block reservation, but I wonder if there are other weird subtleties.
If we're nearly out of space and we're mounted with -odiscard and the
disk is really slow at processing discard, can we encounter weird
failure cases where we end up stuck waiting for the extent busy tree to
say that one of our pingponged blocks is ok to use again?

In the meantime, I noticed that xfs/227 on a pmem fs (or possibly
anything with synchronous writes?) and reflink+rmap enabled seemed to
fail pretty consistently.  In a hastily done and incomprehensi{ve,ble}
survey I noted that I couldn't make the disastrous pingpong happen if
there were more than ~4 blocks in the bmapbt, so maybe this would help
there.

In unrelated news, I also tried fixing the log recovery defer ops chain
transactions to absorb the unused block reservations that the
xfs_*i_item_recover functions created, but that just made fdblocks be
wrong.  But it didn't otherwise blow up! :P

--D

> Brian
> 
>  fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c | 11 -----------
>  fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c     |  4 ++++
>  2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> index f37f5cc4b19f..74b3bad6c414 100644
> --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> @@ -1628,17 +1628,6 @@ xfs_swap_extents(
>  		 */
>  		resblks = XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, ipnext, w);
>  		resblks +=  XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, tipnext, w);
> -
> -		/*
> -		 * Handle the corner case where either inode might straddle the
> -		 * btree format boundary. If so, the inode could bounce between
> -		 * btree <-> extent format on unmap -> remap cycles, freeing and
> -		 * allocating a bmapbt block each time.
> -		 */
> -		if (ipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w) + 1))
> -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w);
> -		if (tipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w) + 1))
> -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w);
>  	}
>  	error = xfs_trans_alloc(mp, &M_RES(mp)->tr_write, resblks, 0, 0, &tp);
>  	if (error)
> diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> index 28b983ff8b11..b421d27445c1 100644
> --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> @@ -370,6 +370,10 @@ xfs_trans_mod_sb(
>  			tp->t_blk_res_used += (uint)-delta;
>  			if (tp->t_blk_res_used > tp->t_blk_res)
>  				xfs_force_shutdown(mp, SHUTDOWN_CORRUPT_INCORE);
> +		} else if (delta > 0 &&
> +			   xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb)) {
> +			tp->t_blk_res += delta;
> +			delta = 0;
>  		}
>  		tp->t_fdblocks_delta += delta;
>  		if (xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb))
> -- 
> 2.21.1
> 

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* Re: [RFC PATCH] xfs: transfer freed blocks to blk res when lazy accounting
  2020-05-23  1:36 ` Darrick J. Wong
@ 2020-05-26 18:16   ` Brian Foster
  2020-05-26 21:11     ` Darrick J. Wong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Brian Foster @ 2020-05-26 18:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Darrick J. Wong; +Cc: linux-xfs

On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 06:36:14PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 01:18:28PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > Signed-off-by: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
> > ---
> > 
> > Darrick mentioned on IRC a few days ago that he'd seen an issue that
> > looked similar to the problem with the rmapbt based extent swap
> > algorithm when the associated inodes happen to bounce between extent and
> > btree format. That problem caused repeated bmapbt block allocations and
> > frees that exhausted the transaction block reservation across the
> > sequence of transaction rolls. The workaround for that was to use an
> > oversized block reservation, but that is not a generic or efficient
> > solution.
> > 
> > I was originally playing around with some hacks to set an optional base
> > block reservation on the transaction that we would attempt to replenish
> > across transaction roll sequences as the block reservation depletes, but
> > eventually noticed that there isn't much difference between stuffing
> > block frees in the transaction reservation counter vs. the delta counter
> > when lazy sb accounting is enabled (which is required for v5 supers). As
> > such, the following patch seems to address the rmapbt issue in my
> > isolated tests.
> > 
> > I think one tradeoff with this logic is that chains of rolling/freeing
> > transactions would now aggregate freed space until the final transaction
> > commits vs. as transactions roll. It's not immediately clear to me how
> > much of an issue that is, but it sounds a bit dicey when considering
> > things like truncates of large files. This behavior could still be tied
> > to a transaction flag to restrict its use to situations like rmapbt
> > swapext, however. Anyways, this is mostly untested outside of the extent
> > swap use case so I wanted to throw this on the list as an RFC for now
> > and see if anybody has thoughts or other ideas.
> 
> Hmm, well, this /would/ fix the immediate problem of running out of
> block reservation, but I wonder if there are other weird subtleties.
> If we're nearly out of space and we're mounted with -odiscard and the
> disk is really slow at processing discard, can we encounter weird
> failure cases where we end up stuck waiting for the extent busy tree to
> say that one of our pingponged blocks is ok to use again?
> 

Yeah, I think something like that could happen. I don't think it should
be a failure scenario though as the busy extent list should involve a
log force and retry in the worst case. Either way, we could always
mitigate risk by making this an optional accounting mode for particular
(extent swap) transactions...

> In the meantime, I noticed that xfs/227 on a pmem fs (or possibly
> anything with synchronous writes?) and reflink+rmap enabled seemed to
> fail pretty consistently.  In a hastily done and incomprehensi{ve,ble}
> survey I noted that I couldn't make the disastrous pingpong happen if
> there were more than ~4 blocks in the bmapbt, so maybe this would help
> there.
> 

Do you mean with this patch or with current upstream? I don't see
xfs/227 failures on my current setups (this patch passed a weekend auto
test run), but I'll have to retry with something synchronous...

BTW, is xfs/227 related to the problem you had mentioned on IRC? I
wasn't quite sure what operation was involved with whatever error report
you had. xfs/227 looks like an xfs_fsr test, so I'd have thought the
upstream workaround would have addressed that.. (though I see some attr
ops in there as well so perhaps this is related to the attr fork..?).

Brian

> In unrelated news, I also tried fixing the log recovery defer ops chain
> transactions to absorb the unused block reservations that the
> xfs_*i_item_recover functions created, but that just made fdblocks be
> wrong.  But it didn't otherwise blow up! :P
> 
> --D
> 
> > Brian
> > 
> >  fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c | 11 -----------
> >  fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c     |  4 ++++
> >  2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > index f37f5cc4b19f..74b3bad6c414 100644
> > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > @@ -1628,17 +1628,6 @@ xfs_swap_extents(
> >  		 */
> >  		resblks = XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, ipnext, w);
> >  		resblks +=  XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, tipnext, w);
> > -
> > -		/*
> > -		 * Handle the corner case where either inode might straddle the
> > -		 * btree format boundary. If so, the inode could bounce between
> > -		 * btree <-> extent format on unmap -> remap cycles, freeing and
> > -		 * allocating a bmapbt block each time.
> > -		 */
> > -		if (ipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w) + 1))
> > -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w);
> > -		if (tipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w) + 1))
> > -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w);
> >  	}
> >  	error = xfs_trans_alloc(mp, &M_RES(mp)->tr_write, resblks, 0, 0, &tp);
> >  	if (error)
> > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > index 28b983ff8b11..b421d27445c1 100644
> > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > @@ -370,6 +370,10 @@ xfs_trans_mod_sb(
> >  			tp->t_blk_res_used += (uint)-delta;
> >  			if (tp->t_blk_res_used > tp->t_blk_res)
> >  				xfs_force_shutdown(mp, SHUTDOWN_CORRUPT_INCORE);
> > +		} else if (delta > 0 &&
> > +			   xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb)) {
> > +			tp->t_blk_res += delta;
> > +			delta = 0;
> >  		}
> >  		tp->t_fdblocks_delta += delta;
> >  		if (xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb))
> > -- 
> > 2.21.1
> > 
> 


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread

* Re: [RFC PATCH] xfs: transfer freed blocks to blk res when lazy accounting
  2020-05-26 18:16   ` Brian Foster
@ 2020-05-26 21:11     ` Darrick J. Wong
  2020-05-27 12:27       ` Brian Foster
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Darrick J. Wong @ 2020-05-26 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Brian Foster; +Cc: linux-xfs

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 02:16:29PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 06:36:14PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 01:18:28PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > Signed-off-by: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
> > > ---
> > > 
> > > Darrick mentioned on IRC a few days ago that he'd seen an issue that
> > > looked similar to the problem with the rmapbt based extent swap
> > > algorithm when the associated inodes happen to bounce between extent and
> > > btree format. That problem caused repeated bmapbt block allocations and
> > > frees that exhausted the transaction block reservation across the
> > > sequence of transaction rolls. The workaround for that was to use an
> > > oversized block reservation, but that is not a generic or efficient
> > > solution.
> > > 
> > > I was originally playing around with some hacks to set an optional base
> > > block reservation on the transaction that we would attempt to replenish
> > > across transaction roll sequences as the block reservation depletes, but
> > > eventually noticed that there isn't much difference between stuffing
> > > block frees in the transaction reservation counter vs. the delta counter
> > > when lazy sb accounting is enabled (which is required for v5 supers). As
> > > such, the following patch seems to address the rmapbt issue in my
> > > isolated tests.
> > > 
> > > I think one tradeoff with this logic is that chains of rolling/freeing
> > > transactions would now aggregate freed space until the final transaction
> > > commits vs. as transactions roll. It's not immediately clear to me how
> > > much of an issue that is, but it sounds a bit dicey when considering
> > > things like truncates of large files. This behavior could still be tied
> > > to a transaction flag to restrict its use to situations like rmapbt
> > > swapext, however. Anyways, this is mostly untested outside of the extent
> > > swap use case so I wanted to throw this on the list as an RFC for now
> > > and see if anybody has thoughts or other ideas.
> > 
> > Hmm, well, this /would/ fix the immediate problem of running out of
> > block reservation, but I wonder if there are other weird subtleties.
> > If we're nearly out of space and we're mounted with -odiscard and the
> > disk is really slow at processing discard, can we encounter weird
> > failure cases where we end up stuck waiting for the extent busy tree to
> > say that one of our pingponged blocks is ok to use again?
> > 
> 
> Yeah, I think something like that could happen. I don't think it should
> be a failure scenario though as the busy extent list should involve a
> log force and retry in the worst case. Either way, we could always
> mitigate risk by making this an optional accounting mode for particular
> (extent swap) transactions...

Hmmm... OTOH I wonder how many people really run fsr?  Even I don't...
:)

> > In the meantime, I noticed that xfs/227 on a pmem fs (or possibly
> > anything with synchronous writes?) and reflink+rmap enabled seemed to
> > fail pretty consistently.  In a hastily done and incomprehensi{ve,ble}
> > survey I noted that I couldn't make the disastrous pingpong happen if
> > there were more than ~4 blocks in the bmapbt, so maybe this would help
> > there.
> > 
> 
> Do you mean with this patch or with current upstream? I don't see
> xfs/227 failures on my current setups (this patch passed a weekend auto
> test run), but I'll have to retry with something synchronous...

It happens semi-frequently with current upstream, and all the time with
the atomic file swap series.

> BTW, is xfs/227 related to the problem you had mentioned on IRC? I
> wasn't quite sure what operation was involved with whatever error report
> you had. xfs/227 looks like an xfs_fsr test, so I'd have thought the
> upstream workaround would have addressed that.. (though I see some attr
> ops in there as well so perhaps this is related to the attr fork..?).

It's related, but only in the sense that the "zomg hundreds of thousands
of intents sitting around in memory" were a side effect of creating a
test that creates two files with ~50000 extents and fsr'ing them.

--D

> Brian
> 
> > In unrelated news, I also tried fixing the log recovery defer ops chain
> > transactions to absorb the unused block reservations that the
> > xfs_*i_item_recover functions created, but that just made fdblocks be
> > wrong.  But it didn't otherwise blow up! :P
> > 
> > --D
> > 
> > > Brian
> > > 
> > >  fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c | 11 -----------
> > >  fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c     |  4 ++++
> > >  2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > index f37f5cc4b19f..74b3bad6c414 100644
> > > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > @@ -1628,17 +1628,6 @@ xfs_swap_extents(
> > >  		 */
> > >  		resblks = XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, ipnext, w);
> > >  		resblks +=  XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, tipnext, w);
> > > -
> > > -		/*
> > > -		 * Handle the corner case where either inode might straddle the
> > > -		 * btree format boundary. If so, the inode could bounce between
> > > -		 * btree <-> extent format on unmap -> remap cycles, freeing and
> > > -		 * allocating a bmapbt block each time.
> > > -		 */
> > > -		if (ipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w) + 1))
> > > -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w);
> > > -		if (tipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w) + 1))
> > > -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w);
> > >  	}
> > >  	error = xfs_trans_alloc(mp, &M_RES(mp)->tr_write, resblks, 0, 0, &tp);
> > >  	if (error)
> > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > index 28b983ff8b11..b421d27445c1 100644
> > > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > @@ -370,6 +370,10 @@ xfs_trans_mod_sb(
> > >  			tp->t_blk_res_used += (uint)-delta;
> > >  			if (tp->t_blk_res_used > tp->t_blk_res)
> > >  				xfs_force_shutdown(mp, SHUTDOWN_CORRUPT_INCORE);
> > > +		} else if (delta > 0 &&
> > > +			   xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb)) {
> > > +			tp->t_blk_res += delta;
> > > +			delta = 0;
> > >  		}
> > >  		tp->t_fdblocks_delta += delta;
> > >  		if (xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb))
> > > -- 
> > > 2.21.1
> > > 
> > 
> 

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread

* Re: [RFC PATCH] xfs: transfer freed blocks to blk res when lazy accounting
  2020-05-26 21:11     ` Darrick J. Wong
@ 2020-05-27 12:27       ` Brian Foster
  2020-05-27 15:31         ` Darrick J. Wong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Brian Foster @ 2020-05-27 12:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Darrick J. Wong; +Cc: linux-xfs

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 02:11:54PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 02:16:29PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 06:36:14PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 01:18:28PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > > Signed-off-by: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
> > > > ---
> > > > 
> > > > Darrick mentioned on IRC a few days ago that he'd seen an issue that
> > > > looked similar to the problem with the rmapbt based extent swap
> > > > algorithm when the associated inodes happen to bounce between extent and
> > > > btree format. That problem caused repeated bmapbt block allocations and
> > > > frees that exhausted the transaction block reservation across the
> > > > sequence of transaction rolls. The workaround for that was to use an
> > > > oversized block reservation, but that is not a generic or efficient
> > > > solution.
> > > > 
> > > > I was originally playing around with some hacks to set an optional base
> > > > block reservation on the transaction that we would attempt to replenish
> > > > across transaction roll sequences as the block reservation depletes, but
> > > > eventually noticed that there isn't much difference between stuffing
> > > > block frees in the transaction reservation counter vs. the delta counter
> > > > when lazy sb accounting is enabled (which is required for v5 supers). As
> > > > such, the following patch seems to address the rmapbt issue in my
> > > > isolated tests.
> > > > 
> > > > I think one tradeoff with this logic is that chains of rolling/freeing
> > > > transactions would now aggregate freed space until the final transaction
> > > > commits vs. as transactions roll. It's not immediately clear to me how
> > > > much of an issue that is, but it sounds a bit dicey when considering
> > > > things like truncates of large files. This behavior could still be tied
> > > > to a transaction flag to restrict its use to situations like rmapbt
> > > > swapext, however. Anyways, this is mostly untested outside of the extent
> > > > swap use case so I wanted to throw this on the list as an RFC for now
> > > > and see if anybody has thoughts or other ideas.
> > > 
> > > Hmm, well, this /would/ fix the immediate problem of running out of
> > > block reservation, but I wonder if there are other weird subtleties.
> > > If we're nearly out of space and we're mounted with -odiscard and the
> > > disk is really slow at processing discard, can we encounter weird
> > > failure cases where we end up stuck waiting for the extent busy tree to
> > > say that one of our pingponged blocks is ok to use again?
> > > 
> > 
> > Yeah, I think something like that could happen. I don't think it should
> > be a failure scenario though as the busy extent list should involve a
> > log force and retry in the worst case. Either way, we could always
> > mitigate risk by making this an optional accounting mode for particular
> > (extent swap) transactions...
> 
> Hmmm... OTOH I wonder how many people really run fsr?  Even I don't...
> :)
> 
> > > In the meantime, I noticed that xfs/227 on a pmem fs (or possibly
> > > anything with synchronous writes?) and reflink+rmap enabled seemed to
> > > fail pretty consistently.  In a hastily done and incomprehensi{ve,ble}
> > > survey I noted that I couldn't make the disastrous pingpong happen if
> > > there were more than ~4 blocks in the bmapbt, so maybe this would help
> > > there.
> > > 
> > 
> > Do you mean with this patch or with current upstream? I don't see
> > xfs/227 failures on my current setups (this patch passed a weekend auto
> > test run), but I'll have to retry with something synchronous...
> 
> It happens semi-frequently with current upstream, and all the time with
> the atomic file swap series.
> 

I repeated on a box using ramdisk devices and still don't reproduce
after 30+ iters, FWIW. Perhaps it depends on pmem for some reason.

> > BTW, is xfs/227 related to the problem you had mentioned on IRC? I
> > wasn't quite sure what operation was involved with whatever error report
> > you had. xfs/227 looks like an xfs_fsr test, so I'd have thought the
> > upstream workaround would have addressed that.. (though I see some attr
> > ops in there as well so perhaps this is related to the attr fork..?).
> 
> It's related, but only in the sense that the "zomg hundreds of thousands
> of intents sitting around in memory" were a side effect of creating a
> test that creates two files with ~50000 extents and fsr'ing them.
> 

Ok, well I'm a little confused then... do we have a user report of a
block reservation exhaustion problem or is the primary issue the
occasional failure of xfs/227?

Brian

> --D
> 
> > Brian
> > 
> > > In unrelated news, I also tried fixing the log recovery defer ops chain
> > > transactions to absorb the unused block reservations that the
> > > xfs_*i_item_recover functions created, but that just made fdblocks be
> > > wrong.  But it didn't otherwise blow up! :P
> > > 
> > > --D
> > > 
> > > > Brian
> > > > 
> > > >  fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c | 11 -----------
> > > >  fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c     |  4 ++++
> > > >  2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> > > > 
> > > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > index f37f5cc4b19f..74b3bad6c414 100644
> > > > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > @@ -1628,17 +1628,6 @@ xfs_swap_extents(
> > > >  		 */
> > > >  		resblks = XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, ipnext, w);
> > > >  		resblks +=  XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, tipnext, w);
> > > > -
> > > > -		/*
> > > > -		 * Handle the corner case where either inode might straddle the
> > > > -		 * btree format boundary. If so, the inode could bounce between
> > > > -		 * btree <-> extent format on unmap -> remap cycles, freeing and
> > > > -		 * allocating a bmapbt block each time.
> > > > -		 */
> > > > -		if (ipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w) + 1))
> > > > -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w);
> > > > -		if (tipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w) + 1))
> > > > -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w);
> > > >  	}
> > > >  	error = xfs_trans_alloc(mp, &M_RES(mp)->tr_write, resblks, 0, 0, &tp);
> > > >  	if (error)
> > > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > index 28b983ff8b11..b421d27445c1 100644
> > > > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > @@ -370,6 +370,10 @@ xfs_trans_mod_sb(
> > > >  			tp->t_blk_res_used += (uint)-delta;
> > > >  			if (tp->t_blk_res_used > tp->t_blk_res)
> > > >  				xfs_force_shutdown(mp, SHUTDOWN_CORRUPT_INCORE);
> > > > +		} else if (delta > 0 &&
> > > > +			   xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb)) {
> > > > +			tp->t_blk_res += delta;
> > > > +			delta = 0;
> > > >  		}
> > > >  		tp->t_fdblocks_delta += delta;
> > > >  		if (xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb))
> > > > -- 
> > > > 2.21.1
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread

* Re: [RFC PATCH] xfs: transfer freed blocks to blk res when lazy accounting
  2020-05-27 12:27       ` Brian Foster
@ 2020-05-27 15:31         ` Darrick J. Wong
  2020-05-28 13:05           ` Brian Foster
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Darrick J. Wong @ 2020-05-27 15:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Brian Foster; +Cc: linux-xfs

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 08:27:52AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 02:11:54PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 02:16:29PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 06:36:14PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 01:18:28PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > > > Signed-off-by: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
> > > > > ---
> > > > > 
> > > > > Darrick mentioned on IRC a few days ago that he'd seen an issue that
> > > > > looked similar to the problem with the rmapbt based extent swap
> > > > > algorithm when the associated inodes happen to bounce between extent and
> > > > > btree format. That problem caused repeated bmapbt block allocations and
> > > > > frees that exhausted the transaction block reservation across the
> > > > > sequence of transaction rolls. The workaround for that was to use an
> > > > > oversized block reservation, but that is not a generic or efficient
> > > > > solution.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I was originally playing around with some hacks to set an optional base
> > > > > block reservation on the transaction that we would attempt to replenish
> > > > > across transaction roll sequences as the block reservation depletes, but
> > > > > eventually noticed that there isn't much difference between stuffing
> > > > > block frees in the transaction reservation counter vs. the delta counter
> > > > > when lazy sb accounting is enabled (which is required for v5 supers). As
> > > > > such, the following patch seems to address the rmapbt issue in my
> > > > > isolated tests.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I think one tradeoff with this logic is that chains of rolling/freeing
> > > > > transactions would now aggregate freed space until the final transaction
> > > > > commits vs. as transactions roll. It's not immediately clear to me how
> > > > > much of an issue that is, but it sounds a bit dicey when considering
> > > > > things like truncates of large files. This behavior could still be tied
> > > > > to a transaction flag to restrict its use to situations like rmapbt
> > > > > swapext, however. Anyways, this is mostly untested outside of the extent
> > > > > swap use case so I wanted to throw this on the list as an RFC for now
> > > > > and see if anybody has thoughts or other ideas.
> > > > 
> > > > Hmm, well, this /would/ fix the immediate problem of running out of
> > > > block reservation, but I wonder if there are other weird subtleties.
> > > > If we're nearly out of space and we're mounted with -odiscard and the
> > > > disk is really slow at processing discard, can we encounter weird
> > > > failure cases where we end up stuck waiting for the extent busy tree to
> > > > say that one of our pingponged blocks is ok to use again?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Yeah, I think something like that could happen. I don't think it should
> > > be a failure scenario though as the busy extent list should involve a
> > > log force and retry in the worst case. Either way, we could always
> > > mitigate risk by making this an optional accounting mode for particular
> > > (extent swap) transactions...
> > 
> > Hmmm... OTOH I wonder how many people really run fsr?  Even I don't...
> > :)
> > 
> > > > In the meantime, I noticed that xfs/227 on a pmem fs (or possibly
> > > > anything with synchronous writes?) and reflink+rmap enabled seemed to
> > > > fail pretty consistently.  In a hastily done and incomprehensi{ve,ble}
> > > > survey I noted that I couldn't make the disastrous pingpong happen if
> > > > there were more than ~4 blocks in the bmapbt, so maybe this would help
> > > > there.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Do you mean with this patch or with current upstream? I don't see
> > > xfs/227 failures on my current setups (this patch passed a weekend auto
> > > test run), but I'll have to retry with something synchronous...
> > 
> > It happens semi-frequently with current upstream, and all the time with
> > the atomic file swap series.
> > 
> 
> I repeated on a box using ramdisk devices and still don't reproduce
> after 30+ iters, FWIW. Perhaps it depends on pmem for some reason.

Ah.  Yes, it does depend on the synchronous file io nature of pmem.  I
/think/ you could simulate the same thing (which is to say the lack of
delalloc writes) by mounting with -osync.

> > > BTW, is xfs/227 related to the problem you had mentioned on IRC? I
> > > wasn't quite sure what operation was involved with whatever error report
> > > you had. xfs/227 looks like an xfs_fsr test, so I'd have thought the
> > > upstream workaround would have addressed that.. (though I see some attr
> > > ops in there as well so perhaps this is related to the attr fork..?).
> > 
> > It's related, but only in the sense that the "zomg hundreds of thousands
> > of intents sitting around in memory" were a side effect of creating a
> > test that creates two files with ~50000 extents and fsr'ing them.
> > 
> 
> Ok, well I'm a little confused then... do we have a user report of a
> block reservation exhaustion problem or is the primary issue the
> occasional failure of xfs/227?

The primary issue is the occasional failure of x/227 on the maintainer's
testing system. :P

The secondary issue is sporadic undiagnosed internal complaints which
are nearly impossible to do much triage on, due to an amazingly s****y
iscsi network that drops so much traffic you can't collect any
telemetry.

The tertiary(?) issue is that "fortunately" the atomic file update
series + fsx have proven good at testing the weaknesses of the block
reservation calculations for swap extents.

--D

> Brian
> 
> > --D
> > 
> > > Brian
> > > 
> > > > In unrelated news, I also tried fixing the log recovery defer ops chain
> > > > transactions to absorb the unused block reservations that the
> > > > xfs_*i_item_recover functions created, but that just made fdblocks be
> > > > wrong.  But it didn't otherwise blow up! :P
> > > > 
> > > > --D
> > > > 
> > > > > Brian
> > > > > 
> > > > >  fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c | 11 -----------
> > > > >  fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c     |  4 ++++
> > > > >  2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > > index f37f5cc4b19f..74b3bad6c414 100644
> > > > > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > > @@ -1628,17 +1628,6 @@ xfs_swap_extents(
> > > > >  		 */
> > > > >  		resblks = XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, ipnext, w);
> > > > >  		resblks +=  XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, tipnext, w);
> > > > > -
> > > > > -		/*
> > > > > -		 * Handle the corner case where either inode might straddle the
> > > > > -		 * btree format boundary. If so, the inode could bounce between
> > > > > -		 * btree <-> extent format on unmap -> remap cycles, freeing and
> > > > > -		 * allocating a bmapbt block each time.
> > > > > -		 */
> > > > > -		if (ipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w) + 1))
> > > > > -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w);
> > > > > -		if (tipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w) + 1))
> > > > > -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w);
> > > > >  	}
> > > > >  	error = xfs_trans_alloc(mp, &M_RES(mp)->tr_write, resblks, 0, 0, &tp);
> > > > >  	if (error)
> > > > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > > index 28b983ff8b11..b421d27445c1 100644
> > > > > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > > @@ -370,6 +370,10 @@ xfs_trans_mod_sb(
> > > > >  			tp->t_blk_res_used += (uint)-delta;
> > > > >  			if (tp->t_blk_res_used > tp->t_blk_res)
> > > > >  				xfs_force_shutdown(mp, SHUTDOWN_CORRUPT_INCORE);
> > > > > +		} else if (delta > 0 &&
> > > > > +			   xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb)) {
> > > > > +			tp->t_blk_res += delta;
> > > > > +			delta = 0;
> > > > >  		}
> > > > >  		tp->t_fdblocks_delta += delta;
> > > > >  		if (xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb))
> > > > > -- 
> > > > > 2.21.1
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread

* Re: [RFC PATCH] xfs: transfer freed blocks to blk res when lazy accounting
  2020-05-27 15:31         ` Darrick J. Wong
@ 2020-05-28 13:05           ` Brian Foster
  2020-05-28 17:29             ` Darrick J. Wong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Brian Foster @ 2020-05-28 13:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Darrick J. Wong; +Cc: linux-xfs

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 08:31:46AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 08:27:52AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 02:11:54PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 02:16:29PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 06:36:14PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 01:18:28PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Darrick mentioned on IRC a few days ago that he'd seen an issue that
> > > > > > looked similar to the problem with the rmapbt based extent swap
> > > > > > algorithm when the associated inodes happen to bounce between extent and
> > > > > > btree format. That problem caused repeated bmapbt block allocations and
> > > > > > frees that exhausted the transaction block reservation across the
> > > > > > sequence of transaction rolls. The workaround for that was to use an
> > > > > > oversized block reservation, but that is not a generic or efficient
> > > > > > solution.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I was originally playing around with some hacks to set an optional base
> > > > > > block reservation on the transaction that we would attempt to replenish
> > > > > > across transaction roll sequences as the block reservation depletes, but
> > > > > > eventually noticed that there isn't much difference between stuffing
> > > > > > block frees in the transaction reservation counter vs. the delta counter
> > > > > > when lazy sb accounting is enabled (which is required for v5 supers). As
> > > > > > such, the following patch seems to address the rmapbt issue in my
> > > > > > isolated tests.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I think one tradeoff with this logic is that chains of rolling/freeing
> > > > > > transactions would now aggregate freed space until the final transaction
> > > > > > commits vs. as transactions roll. It's not immediately clear to me how
> > > > > > much of an issue that is, but it sounds a bit dicey when considering
> > > > > > things like truncates of large files. This behavior could still be tied
> > > > > > to a transaction flag to restrict its use to situations like rmapbt
> > > > > > swapext, however. Anyways, this is mostly untested outside of the extent
> > > > > > swap use case so I wanted to throw this on the list as an RFC for now
> > > > > > and see if anybody has thoughts or other ideas.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hmm, well, this /would/ fix the immediate problem of running out of
> > > > > block reservation, but I wonder if there are other weird subtleties.
> > > > > If we're nearly out of space and we're mounted with -odiscard and the
> > > > > disk is really slow at processing discard, can we encounter weird
> > > > > failure cases where we end up stuck waiting for the extent busy tree to
> > > > > say that one of our pingponged blocks is ok to use again?
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah, I think something like that could happen. I don't think it should
> > > > be a failure scenario though as the busy extent list should involve a
> > > > log force and retry in the worst case. Either way, we could always
> > > > mitigate risk by making this an optional accounting mode for particular
> > > > (extent swap) transactions...
> > > 
> > > Hmmm... OTOH I wonder how many people really run fsr?  Even I don't...
> > > :)
> > > 
> > > > > In the meantime, I noticed that xfs/227 on a pmem fs (or possibly
> > > > > anything with synchronous writes?) and reflink+rmap enabled seemed to
> > > > > fail pretty consistently.  In a hastily done and incomprehensi{ve,ble}
> > > > > survey I noted that I couldn't make the disastrous pingpong happen if
> > > > > there were more than ~4 blocks in the bmapbt, so maybe this would help
> > > > > there.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Do you mean with this patch or with current upstream? I don't see
> > > > xfs/227 failures on my current setups (this patch passed a weekend auto
> > > > test run), but I'll have to retry with something synchronous...
> > > 
> > > It happens semi-frequently with current upstream, and all the time with
> > > the atomic file swap series.
> > > 
> > 
> > I repeated on a box using ramdisk devices and still don't reproduce
> > after 30+ iters, FWIW. Perhaps it depends on pmem for some reason.
> 
> Ah.  Yes, it does depend on the synchronous file io nature of pmem.  I
> /think/ you could simulate the same thing (which is to say the lack of
> delalloc writes) by mounting with -osync.
> 

Ok. I ran a similar test w/ -osync and still couldn't reproduce, fwiw.

> > > > BTW, is xfs/227 related to the problem you had mentioned on IRC? I
> > > > wasn't quite sure what operation was involved with whatever error report
> > > > you had. xfs/227 looks like an xfs_fsr test, so I'd have thought the
> > > > upstream workaround would have addressed that.. (though I see some attr
> > > > ops in there as well so perhaps this is related to the attr fork..?).
> > > 
> > > It's related, but only in the sense that the "zomg hundreds of thousands
> > > of intents sitting around in memory" were a side effect of creating a
> > > test that creates two files with ~50000 extents and fsr'ing them.
> > > 
> > 
> > Ok, well I'm a little confused then... do we have a user report of a
> > block reservation exhaustion problem or is the primary issue the
> > occasional failure of xfs/227?
> 
> The primary issue is the occasional failure of x/227 on the maintainer's
> testing system. :P
> 

Ok.

> The secondary issue is sporadic undiagnosed internal complaints which
> are nearly impossible to do much triage on, due to an amazingly s****y
> iscsi network that drops so much traffic you can't collect any
> telemetry.
> 

Heh.

In any event, I can't reproduce so I don't have enough information to
determine whether there's value in this kind of fix. It's more efficient
than the current approach for rmapbt swapext, but reserving an extra
fixed number of blocks for forks that straddle smaller format boundaries
isn't that terrible either for a one-off case IMO. Let me know if you
happen to get more information and/or can effectively give this a test
with any of your sporadic reproducers...

Brian

> The tertiary(?) issue is that "fortunately" the atomic file update
> series + fsx have proven good at testing the weaknesses of the block
> reservation calculations for swap extents.
> 
> --D
> 
> > Brian
> > 
> > > --D
> > > 
> > > > Brian
> > > > 
> > > > > In unrelated news, I also tried fixing the log recovery defer ops chain
> > > > > transactions to absorb the unused block reservations that the
> > > > > xfs_*i_item_recover functions created, but that just made fdblocks be
> > > > > wrong.  But it didn't otherwise blow up! :P
> > > > > 
> > > > > --D
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Brian
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >  fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c | 11 -----------
> > > > > >  fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c     |  4 ++++
> > > > > >  2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > > > index f37f5cc4b19f..74b3bad6c414 100644
> > > > > > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > > > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > > > @@ -1628,17 +1628,6 @@ xfs_swap_extents(
> > > > > >  		 */
> > > > > >  		resblks = XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, ipnext, w);
> > > > > >  		resblks +=  XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, tipnext, w);
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > -		/*
> > > > > > -		 * Handle the corner case where either inode might straddle the
> > > > > > -		 * btree format boundary. If so, the inode could bounce between
> > > > > > -		 * btree <-> extent format on unmap -> remap cycles, freeing and
> > > > > > -		 * allocating a bmapbt block each time.
> > > > > > -		 */
> > > > > > -		if (ipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w) + 1))
> > > > > > -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w);
> > > > > > -		if (tipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w) + 1))
> > > > > > -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w);
> > > > > >  	}
> > > > > >  	error = xfs_trans_alloc(mp, &M_RES(mp)->tr_write, resblks, 0, 0, &tp);
> > > > > >  	if (error)
> > > > > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > > > index 28b983ff8b11..b421d27445c1 100644
> > > > > > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > > > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > > > @@ -370,6 +370,10 @@ xfs_trans_mod_sb(
> > > > > >  			tp->t_blk_res_used += (uint)-delta;
> > > > > >  			if (tp->t_blk_res_used > tp->t_blk_res)
> > > > > >  				xfs_force_shutdown(mp, SHUTDOWN_CORRUPT_INCORE);
> > > > > > +		} else if (delta > 0 &&
> > > > > > +			   xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb)) {
> > > > > > +			tp->t_blk_res += delta;
> > > > > > +			delta = 0;
> > > > > >  		}
> > > > > >  		tp->t_fdblocks_delta += delta;
> > > > > >  		if (xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb))
> > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > 2.21.1
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 


^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread

* Re: [RFC PATCH] xfs: transfer freed blocks to blk res when lazy accounting
  2020-05-28 13:05           ` Brian Foster
@ 2020-05-28 17:29             ` Darrick J. Wong
  2020-05-29 11:33               ` Brian Foster
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Darrick J. Wong @ 2020-05-28 17:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Brian Foster; +Cc: linux-xfs

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 09:05:19AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 08:31:46AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 08:27:52AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 02:11:54PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 02:16:29PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 06:36:14PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 01:18:28PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
> > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Darrick mentioned on IRC a few days ago that he'd seen an issue that
> > > > > > > looked similar to the problem with the rmapbt based extent swap
> > > > > > > algorithm when the associated inodes happen to bounce between extent and
> > > > > > > btree format. That problem caused repeated bmapbt block allocations and
> > > > > > > frees that exhausted the transaction block reservation across the
> > > > > > > sequence of transaction rolls. The workaround for that was to use an
> > > > > > > oversized block reservation, but that is not a generic or efficient
> > > > > > > solution.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I was originally playing around with some hacks to set an optional base
> > > > > > > block reservation on the transaction that we would attempt to replenish
> > > > > > > across transaction roll sequences as the block reservation depletes, but
> > > > > > > eventually noticed that there isn't much difference between stuffing
> > > > > > > block frees in the transaction reservation counter vs. the delta counter
> > > > > > > when lazy sb accounting is enabled (which is required for v5 supers). As
> > > > > > > such, the following patch seems to address the rmapbt issue in my
> > > > > > > isolated tests.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I think one tradeoff with this logic is that chains of rolling/freeing
> > > > > > > transactions would now aggregate freed space until the final transaction
> > > > > > > commits vs. as transactions roll. It's not immediately clear to me how
> > > > > > > much of an issue that is, but it sounds a bit dicey when considering
> > > > > > > things like truncates of large files. This behavior could still be tied
> > > > > > > to a transaction flag to restrict its use to situations like rmapbt
> > > > > > > swapext, however. Anyways, this is mostly untested outside of the extent
> > > > > > > swap use case so I wanted to throw this on the list as an RFC for now
> > > > > > > and see if anybody has thoughts or other ideas.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hmm, well, this /would/ fix the immediate problem of running out of
> > > > > > block reservation, but I wonder if there are other weird subtleties.
> > > > > > If we're nearly out of space and we're mounted with -odiscard and the
> > > > > > disk is really slow at processing discard, can we encounter weird
> > > > > > failure cases where we end up stuck waiting for the extent busy tree to
> > > > > > say that one of our pingponged blocks is ok to use again?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Yeah, I think something like that could happen. I don't think it should
> > > > > be a failure scenario though as the busy extent list should involve a
> > > > > log force and retry in the worst case. Either way, we could always
> > > > > mitigate risk by making this an optional accounting mode for particular
> > > > > (extent swap) transactions...
> > > > 
> > > > Hmmm... OTOH I wonder how many people really run fsr?  Even I don't...
> > > > :)
> > > > 
> > > > > > In the meantime, I noticed that xfs/227 on a pmem fs (or possibly
> > > > > > anything with synchronous writes?) and reflink+rmap enabled seemed to
> > > > > > fail pretty consistently.  In a hastily done and incomprehensi{ve,ble}
> > > > > > survey I noted that I couldn't make the disastrous pingpong happen if
> > > > > > there were more than ~4 blocks in the bmapbt, so maybe this would help
> > > > > > there.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Do you mean with this patch or with current upstream? I don't see
> > > > > xfs/227 failures on my current setups (this patch passed a weekend auto
> > > > > test run), but I'll have to retry with something synchronous...
> > > > 
> > > > It happens semi-frequently with current upstream, and all the time with
> > > > the atomic file swap series.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > I repeated on a box using ramdisk devices and still don't reproduce
> > > after 30+ iters, FWIW. Perhaps it depends on pmem for some reason.
> > 
> > Ah.  Yes, it does depend on the synchronous file io nature of pmem.  I
> > /think/ you could simulate the same thing (which is to say the lack of
> > delalloc writes) by mounting with -osync.
> > 
> 
> Ok. I ran a similar test w/ -osync and still couldn't reproduce, fwiw.
> 
> > > > > BTW, is xfs/227 related to the problem you had mentioned on IRC? I
> > > > > wasn't quite sure what operation was involved with whatever error report
> > > > > you had. xfs/227 looks like an xfs_fsr test, so I'd have thought the
> > > > > upstream workaround would have addressed that.. (though I see some attr
> > > > > ops in there as well so perhaps this is related to the attr fork..?).
> > > > 
> > > > It's related, but only in the sense that the "zomg hundreds of thousands
> > > > of intents sitting around in memory" were a side effect of creating a
> > > > test that creates two files with ~50000 extents and fsr'ing them.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Ok, well I'm a little confused then... do we have a user report of a
> > > block reservation exhaustion problem or is the primary issue the
> > > occasional failure of xfs/227?
> > 
> > The primary issue is the occasional failure of x/227 on the maintainer's
> > testing system. :P
> > 
> 
> Ok.
> 
> > The secondary issue is sporadic undiagnosed internal complaints which
> > are nearly impossible to do much triage on, due to an amazingly s****y
> > iscsi network that drops so much traffic you can't collect any
> > telemetry.
> > 
> 
> Heh.
> 
> In any event, I can't reproduce so I don't have enough information to
> determine whether there's value in this kind of fix. It's more efficient
> than the current approach for rmapbt swapext, but reserving an extra
> fixed number of blocks for forks that straddle smaller format boundaries
> isn't that terrible either for a one-off case IMO. Let me know if you
> happen to get more information and/or can effectively give this a test
> with any of your sporadic reproducers...

Yes!  I've finally figured out how this can trigger.

Let's say for demonstration purposes that IFORK_MAXEXT for both files is
20.  File A is a 42 block file with 21 extents:

AABBCCDDEEFFGGHHIIJJKKLLMMNNOOPPQQRRSSTTUU

File B is a 42 block file with 20 extents:

VWWXXYYZZaabbccddeeffgghhiijjkkllmmnnooppp

File A has MAXEXT+1 extents, which means that each unmap-remap cycle
will cycle it between btree and extents format.  File B has fewer than
MAXEXT extents, so it won't cycle.  The block reservation computation
for the rmap-based swap does this:

	/*
	 * Conceptually this shouldn't affect the shape of either bmbt,
	 * but since we atomically move extents one by one, we reserve
	 * enough space to rebuild both trees.
	 */
	resblks = XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, ipnext, w);
	resblks +=  XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, tipnext, w);

	/*
	 * Handle the corner case where either inode might straddle the
	 * btree format boundary. If so, the inode could bounce between
	 * btree <-> extent format on unmap -> remap cycles, freeing and
	 * allocating a bmapbt block each time.
	 */
	if (ipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w) + 1))
		resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w);
	if (tipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w) + 1))
		resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w);

Let's say the filesystem is small enough that XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES()
returns 7 for both file A and file B, because 21 bmap records will fit
in a single bmbt block; the max bmbt height is 5; 21 rmap records will
fit in a single rmapbt block; and the max rmapbt height is 2.  The total
block reservation is therefore 7 + 7 + 20 = 34.

But now let's look at what the rmap swap operation actually does.  It
walks both files in order of increasing file offset, swapping the length
of the longest contiguous mapping for both files starting at the offset.

This scenario is the worst case for the rmap swap because the extents
are just offset enough that we have to perform single-block swaps for
every file offset except the last two: A[0] <-> v, A[1] <-> W[0], B[0]
<-> W[1], etc.  This means that file A cycles between btree and extents
format 41 times, but we only reserved 34 blocks and so run out 4/5 of
the way through.

What we really need in the ping-pong case is to add the number of swaps
we're going to make to resblks.  This is what I have now done for the
atomic file update series.

There also seems to be the potential for pingpong behavior if the number
of bmap records is exactly the maximum number of bmbt records per block
+ 1 -- we start with two bmbt blocks, combine them when we remove the
record, but then we have to re-expand the bmbt when we add a record
back.

--D

> Brian
> 
> > The tertiary(?) issue is that "fortunately" the atomic file update
> > series + fsx have proven good at testing the weaknesses of the block
> > reservation calculations for swap extents.
> > 
> > --D
> > 
> > > Brian
> > > 
> > > > --D
> > > > 
> > > > > Brian
> > > > > 
> > > > > > In unrelated news, I also tried fixing the log recovery defer ops chain
> > > > > > transactions to absorb the unused block reservations that the
> > > > > > xfs_*i_item_recover functions created, but that just made fdblocks be
> > > > > > wrong.  But it didn't otherwise blow up! :P
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --D
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Brian
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c | 11 -----------
> > > > > > >  fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c     |  4 ++++
> > > > > > >  2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > > > > index f37f5cc4b19f..74b3bad6c414 100644
> > > > > > > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > > > > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > > > > @@ -1628,17 +1628,6 @@ xfs_swap_extents(
> > > > > > >  		 */
> > > > > > >  		resblks = XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, ipnext, w);
> > > > > > >  		resblks +=  XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, tipnext, w);
> > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > -		/*
> > > > > > > -		 * Handle the corner case where either inode might straddle the
> > > > > > > -		 * btree format boundary. If so, the inode could bounce between
> > > > > > > -		 * btree <-> extent format on unmap -> remap cycles, freeing and
> > > > > > > -		 * allocating a bmapbt block each time.
> > > > > > > -		 */
> > > > > > > -		if (ipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w) + 1))
> > > > > > > -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w);
> > > > > > > -		if (tipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w) + 1))
> > > > > > > -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w);
> > > > > > >  	}
> > > > > > >  	error = xfs_trans_alloc(mp, &M_RES(mp)->tr_write, resblks, 0, 0, &tp);
> > > > > > >  	if (error)
> > > > > > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > > > > index 28b983ff8b11..b421d27445c1 100644
> > > > > > > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > > > > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > > > > @@ -370,6 +370,10 @@ xfs_trans_mod_sb(
> > > > > > >  			tp->t_blk_res_used += (uint)-delta;
> > > > > > >  			if (tp->t_blk_res_used > tp->t_blk_res)
> > > > > > >  				xfs_force_shutdown(mp, SHUTDOWN_CORRUPT_INCORE);
> > > > > > > +		} else if (delta > 0 &&
> > > > > > > +			   xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb)) {
> > > > > > > +			tp->t_blk_res += delta;
> > > > > > > +			delta = 0;
> > > > > > >  		}
> > > > > > >  		tp->t_fdblocks_delta += delta;
> > > > > > >  		if (xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb))
> > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > 2.21.1
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 10+ messages in thread

* Re: [RFC PATCH] xfs: transfer freed blocks to blk res when lazy accounting
  2020-05-28 17:29             ` Darrick J. Wong
@ 2020-05-29 11:33               ` Brian Foster
  2020-05-30  1:16                 ` Darrick J. Wong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 10+ messages in thread
From: Brian Foster @ 2020-05-29 11:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Darrick J. Wong; +Cc: linux-xfs

On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 10:29:22AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 09:05:19AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 08:31:46AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 08:27:52AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 02:11:54PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 02:16:29PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 06:36:14PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 01:18:28PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Darrick mentioned on IRC a few days ago that he'd seen an issue that
> > > > > > > > looked similar to the problem with the rmapbt based extent swap
> > > > > > > > algorithm when the associated inodes happen to bounce between extent and
> > > > > > > > btree format. That problem caused repeated bmapbt block allocations and
> > > > > > > > frees that exhausted the transaction block reservation across the
> > > > > > > > sequence of transaction rolls. The workaround for that was to use an
> > > > > > > > oversized block reservation, but that is not a generic or efficient
> > > > > > > > solution.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I was originally playing around with some hacks to set an optional base
> > > > > > > > block reservation on the transaction that we would attempt to replenish
> > > > > > > > across transaction roll sequences as the block reservation depletes, but
> > > > > > > > eventually noticed that there isn't much difference between stuffing
> > > > > > > > block frees in the transaction reservation counter vs. the delta counter
> > > > > > > > when lazy sb accounting is enabled (which is required for v5 supers). As
> > > > > > > > such, the following patch seems to address the rmapbt issue in my
> > > > > > > > isolated tests.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > I think one tradeoff with this logic is that chains of rolling/freeing
> > > > > > > > transactions would now aggregate freed space until the final transaction
> > > > > > > > commits vs. as transactions roll. It's not immediately clear to me how
> > > > > > > > much of an issue that is, but it sounds a bit dicey when considering
> > > > > > > > things like truncates of large files. This behavior could still be tied
> > > > > > > > to a transaction flag to restrict its use to situations like rmapbt
> > > > > > > > swapext, however. Anyways, this is mostly untested outside of the extent
> > > > > > > > swap use case so I wanted to throw this on the list as an RFC for now
> > > > > > > > and see if anybody has thoughts or other ideas.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Hmm, well, this /would/ fix the immediate problem of running out of
> > > > > > > block reservation, but I wonder if there are other weird subtleties.
> > > > > > > If we're nearly out of space and we're mounted with -odiscard and the
> > > > > > > disk is really slow at processing discard, can we encounter weird
> > > > > > > failure cases where we end up stuck waiting for the extent busy tree to
> > > > > > > say that one of our pingponged blocks is ok to use again?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Yeah, I think something like that could happen. I don't think it should
> > > > > > be a failure scenario though as the busy extent list should involve a
> > > > > > log force and retry in the worst case. Either way, we could always
> > > > > > mitigate risk by making this an optional accounting mode for particular
> > > > > > (extent swap) transactions...
> > > > > 
> > > > > Hmmm... OTOH I wonder how many people really run fsr?  Even I don't...
> > > > > :)
> > > > > 
> > > > > > > In the meantime, I noticed that xfs/227 on a pmem fs (or possibly
> > > > > > > anything with synchronous writes?) and reflink+rmap enabled seemed to
> > > > > > > fail pretty consistently.  In a hastily done and incomprehensi{ve,ble}
> > > > > > > survey I noted that I couldn't make the disastrous pingpong happen if
> > > > > > > there were more than ~4 blocks in the bmapbt, so maybe this would help
> > > > > > > there.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Do you mean with this patch or with current upstream? I don't see
> > > > > > xfs/227 failures on my current setups (this patch passed a weekend auto
> > > > > > test run), but I'll have to retry with something synchronous...
> > > > > 
> > > > > It happens semi-frequently with current upstream, and all the time with
> > > > > the atomic file swap series.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I repeated on a box using ramdisk devices and still don't reproduce
> > > > after 30+ iters, FWIW. Perhaps it depends on pmem for some reason.
> > > 
> > > Ah.  Yes, it does depend on the synchronous file io nature of pmem.  I
> > > /think/ you could simulate the same thing (which is to say the lack of
> > > delalloc writes) by mounting with -osync.
> > > 
> > 
> > Ok. I ran a similar test w/ -osync and still couldn't reproduce, fwiw.
> > 
> > > > > > BTW, is xfs/227 related to the problem you had mentioned on IRC? I
> > > > > > wasn't quite sure what operation was involved with whatever error report
> > > > > > you had. xfs/227 looks like an xfs_fsr test, so I'd have thought the
> > > > > > upstream workaround would have addressed that.. (though I see some attr
> > > > > > ops in there as well so perhaps this is related to the attr fork..?).
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's related, but only in the sense that the "zomg hundreds of thousands
> > > > > of intents sitting around in memory" were a side effect of creating a
> > > > > test that creates two files with ~50000 extents and fsr'ing them.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Ok, well I'm a little confused then... do we have a user report of a
> > > > block reservation exhaustion problem or is the primary issue the
> > > > occasional failure of xfs/227?
> > > 
> > > The primary issue is the occasional failure of x/227 on the maintainer's
> > > testing system. :P
> > > 
> > 
> > Ok.
> > 
> > > The secondary issue is sporadic undiagnosed internal complaints which
> > > are nearly impossible to do much triage on, due to an amazingly s****y
> > > iscsi network that drops so much traffic you can't collect any
> > > telemetry.
> > > 
> > 
> > Heh.
> > 
> > In any event, I can't reproduce so I don't have enough information to
> > determine whether there's value in this kind of fix. It's more efficient
> > than the current approach for rmapbt swapext, but reserving an extra
> > fixed number of blocks for forks that straddle smaller format boundaries
> > isn't that terrible either for a one-off case IMO. Let me know if you
> > happen to get more information and/or can effectively give this a test
> > with any of your sporadic reproducers...
> 
> Yes!  I've finally figured out how this can trigger.
> 
> Let's say for demonstration purposes that IFORK_MAXEXT for both files is
> 20.  File A is a 42 block file with 21 extents:
> 
> AABBCCDDEEFFGGHHIIJJKKLLMMNNOOPPQQRRSSTTUU
> 
> File B is a 42 block file with 20 extents:
> 
> VWWXXYYZZaabbccddeeffgghhiijjkkllmmnnooppp
> 
> File A has MAXEXT+1 extents, which means that each unmap-remap cycle
> will cycle it between btree and extents format.  File B has fewer than
> MAXEXT extents, so it won't cycle.  The block reservation computation
> for the rmap-based swap does this:
> 
> 	/*
> 	 * Conceptually this shouldn't affect the shape of either bmbt,
> 	 * but since we atomically move extents one by one, we reserve
> 	 * enough space to rebuild both trees.
> 	 */
> 	resblks = XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, ipnext, w);
> 	resblks +=  XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, tipnext, w);
> 
> 	/*
> 	 * Handle the corner case where either inode might straddle the
> 	 * btree format boundary. If so, the inode could bounce between
> 	 * btree <-> extent format on unmap -> remap cycles, freeing and
> 	 * allocating a bmapbt block each time.
> 	 */
> 	if (ipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w) + 1))
> 		resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w);
> 	if (tipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w) + 1))
> 		resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w);
> 
> Let's say the filesystem is small enough that XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES()
> returns 7 for both file A and file B, because 21 bmap records will fit
> in a single bmbt block; the max bmbt height is 5; 21 rmap records will
> fit in a single rmapbt block; and the max rmapbt height is 2.  The total
> block reservation is therefore 7 + 7 + 20 = 34.
> 
> But now let's look at what the rmap swap operation actually does.  It
> walks both files in order of increasing file offset, swapping the length
> of the longest contiguous mapping for both files starting at the offset.
> 
> This scenario is the worst case for the rmap swap because the extents
> are just offset enough that we have to perform single-block swaps for
> every file offset except the last two: A[0] <-> v, A[1] <-> W[0], B[0]
> <-> W[1], etc.  This means that file A cycles between btree and extents
> format 41 times, but we only reserved 34 blocks and so run out 4/5 of
> the way through.
> 

Ah, I see. So the extra block res calculation is off in that it assumes
a swap per extent, but the reality is we can perform many more
(sub-extent) swaps than that if extent offsets are staggered.

> What we really need in the ping-pong case is to add the number of swaps
> we're going to make to resblks.  This is what I have now done for the
> atomic file update series.
> 

Makes sense, but that's not necessarily a straightforward calculation is
it?

> There also seems to be the potential for pingpong behavior if the number
> of bmap records is exactly the maximum number of bmbt records per block
> + 1 -- we start with two bmbt blocks, combine them when we remove the
> record, but then we have to re-expand the bmbt when we add a record
> back.
> 

Indeed. The above and things like this are what make me wonder if it
would be better to use a "reserve freed blocks" accounting mode on this
transaction and not have to artificially bump the reservation at all.

A simplified alternative could be to try and explicitly replenish the
block reservation after each swap and the transaction is rolled to a
clean state. The risk with that is it introduces a legitimate -ENOSPC
error path mid operation. OTOH, we should only be talking about a single
block at a time so it should be rare. Perhaps we could even (ab)use the
reserve pool since technically this is cycling between allocating and
freeing blocks. FWIW, at a quick glance it looks like xfs_fsr copies
file data before swapping extents, so I'd expect that would leave the
file in a coherent state even if the swap was interrupted.

Brian

> --D
> 
> > Brian
> > 
> > > The tertiary(?) issue is that "fortunately" the atomic file update
> > > series + fsx have proven good at testing the weaknesses of the block
> > > reservation calculations for swap extents.
> > > 
> > > --D
> > > 
> > > > Brian
> > > > 
> > > > > --D
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Brian
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > In unrelated news, I also tried fixing the log recovery defer ops chain
> > > > > > > transactions to absorb the unused block reservations that the
> > > > > > > xfs_*i_item_recover functions created, but that just made fdblocks be
> > > > > > > wrong.  But it didn't otherwise blow up! :P
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --D
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Brian
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >  fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c | 11 -----------
> > > > > > > >  fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c     |  4 ++++
> > > > > > > >  2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > > > > > index f37f5cc4b19f..74b3bad6c414 100644
> > > > > > > > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > > > > > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > > > > > @@ -1628,17 +1628,6 @@ xfs_swap_extents(
> > > > > > > >  		 */
> > > > > > > >  		resblks = XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, ipnext, w);
> > > > > > > >  		resblks +=  XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, tipnext, w);
> > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > -		/*
> > > > > > > > -		 * Handle the corner case where either inode might straddle the
> > > > > > > > -		 * btree format boundary. If so, the inode could bounce between
> > > > > > > > -		 * btree <-> extent format on unmap -> remap cycles, freeing and
> > > > > > > > -		 * allocating a bmapbt block each time.
> > > > > > > > -		 */
> > > > > > > > -		if (ipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w) + 1))
> > > > > > > > -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w);
> > > > > > > > -		if (tipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w) + 1))
> > > > > > > > -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w);
> > > > > > > >  	}
> > > > > > > >  	error = xfs_trans_alloc(mp, &M_RES(mp)->tr_write, resblks, 0, 0, &tp);
> > > > > > > >  	if (error)
> > > > > > > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > > > > > index 28b983ff8b11..b421d27445c1 100644
> > > > > > > > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > > > > > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > > > > > @@ -370,6 +370,10 @@ xfs_trans_mod_sb(
> > > > > > > >  			tp->t_blk_res_used += (uint)-delta;
> > > > > > > >  			if (tp->t_blk_res_used > tp->t_blk_res)
> > > > > > > >  				xfs_force_shutdown(mp, SHUTDOWN_CORRUPT_INCORE);
> > > > > > > > +		} else if (delta > 0 &&
> > > > > > > > +			   xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb)) {
> > > > > > > > +			tp->t_blk_res += delta;
> > > > > > > > +			delta = 0;
> > > > > > > >  		}
> > > > > > > >  		tp->t_fdblocks_delta += delta;
> > > > > > > >  		if (xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb))
> > > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > > 2.21.1
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 


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* Re: [RFC PATCH] xfs: transfer freed blocks to blk res when lazy accounting
  2020-05-29 11:33               ` Brian Foster
@ 2020-05-30  1:16                 ` Darrick J. Wong
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 10+ messages in thread
From: Darrick J. Wong @ 2020-05-30  1:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Brian Foster; +Cc: linux-xfs

On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 07:33:35AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 10:29:22AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 09:05:19AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 08:31:46AM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 08:27:52AM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 02:11:54PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > > > > On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 02:16:29PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > > > > > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 06:36:14PM -0700, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Fri, May 22, 2020 at 01:18:28PM -0400, Brian Foster wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Brian Foster <bfoster@redhat.com>
> > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Darrick mentioned on IRC a few days ago that he'd seen an issue that
> > > > > > > > > looked similar to the problem with the rmapbt based extent swap
> > > > > > > > > algorithm when the associated inodes happen to bounce between extent and
> > > > > > > > > btree format. That problem caused repeated bmapbt block allocations and
> > > > > > > > > frees that exhausted the transaction block reservation across the
> > > > > > > > > sequence of transaction rolls. The workaround for that was to use an
> > > > > > > > > oversized block reservation, but that is not a generic or efficient
> > > > > > > > > solution.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I was originally playing around with some hacks to set an optional base
> > > > > > > > > block reservation on the transaction that we would attempt to replenish
> > > > > > > > > across transaction roll sequences as the block reservation depletes, but
> > > > > > > > > eventually noticed that there isn't much difference between stuffing
> > > > > > > > > block frees in the transaction reservation counter vs. the delta counter
> > > > > > > > > when lazy sb accounting is enabled (which is required for v5 supers). As
> > > > > > > > > such, the following patch seems to address the rmapbt issue in my
> > > > > > > > > isolated tests.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I think one tradeoff with this logic is that chains of rolling/freeing
> > > > > > > > > transactions would now aggregate freed space until the final transaction
> > > > > > > > > commits vs. as transactions roll. It's not immediately clear to me how
> > > > > > > > > much of an issue that is, but it sounds a bit dicey when considering
> > > > > > > > > things like truncates of large files. This behavior could still be tied
> > > > > > > > > to a transaction flag to restrict its use to situations like rmapbt
> > > > > > > > > swapext, however. Anyways, this is mostly untested outside of the extent
> > > > > > > > > swap use case so I wanted to throw this on the list as an RFC for now
> > > > > > > > > and see if anybody has thoughts or other ideas.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Hmm, well, this /would/ fix the immediate problem of running out of
> > > > > > > > block reservation, but I wonder if there are other weird subtleties.
> > > > > > > > If we're nearly out of space and we're mounted with -odiscard and the
> > > > > > > > disk is really slow at processing discard, can we encounter weird
> > > > > > > > failure cases where we end up stuck waiting for the extent busy tree to
> > > > > > > > say that one of our pingponged blocks is ok to use again?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Yeah, I think something like that could happen. I don't think it should
> > > > > > > be a failure scenario though as the busy extent list should involve a
> > > > > > > log force and retry in the worst case. Either way, we could always
> > > > > > > mitigate risk by making this an optional accounting mode for particular
> > > > > > > (extent swap) transactions...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hmmm... OTOH I wonder how many people really run fsr?  Even I don't...
> > > > > > :)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > In the meantime, I noticed that xfs/227 on a pmem fs (or possibly
> > > > > > > > anything with synchronous writes?) and reflink+rmap enabled seemed to
> > > > > > > > fail pretty consistently.  In a hastily done and incomprehensi{ve,ble}
> > > > > > > > survey I noted that I couldn't make the disastrous pingpong happen if
> > > > > > > > there were more than ~4 blocks in the bmapbt, so maybe this would help
> > > > > > > > there.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Do you mean with this patch or with current upstream? I don't see
> > > > > > > xfs/227 failures on my current setups (this patch passed a weekend auto
> > > > > > > test run), but I'll have to retry with something synchronous...
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It happens semi-frequently with current upstream, and all the time with
> > > > > > the atomic file swap series.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > I repeated on a box using ramdisk devices and still don't reproduce
> > > > > after 30+ iters, FWIW. Perhaps it depends on pmem for some reason.
> > > > 
> > > > Ah.  Yes, it does depend on the synchronous file io nature of pmem.  I
> > > > /think/ you could simulate the same thing (which is to say the lack of
> > > > delalloc writes) by mounting with -osync.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Ok. I ran a similar test w/ -osync and still couldn't reproduce, fwiw.
> > > 
> > > > > > > BTW, is xfs/227 related to the problem you had mentioned on IRC? I
> > > > > > > wasn't quite sure what operation was involved with whatever error report
> > > > > > > you had. xfs/227 looks like an xfs_fsr test, so I'd have thought the
> > > > > > > upstream workaround would have addressed that.. (though I see some attr
> > > > > > > ops in there as well so perhaps this is related to the attr fork..?).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It's related, but only in the sense that the "zomg hundreds of thousands
> > > > > > of intents sitting around in memory" were a side effect of creating a
> > > > > > test that creates two files with ~50000 extents and fsr'ing them.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Ok, well I'm a little confused then... do we have a user report of a
> > > > > block reservation exhaustion problem or is the primary issue the
> > > > > occasional failure of xfs/227?
> > > > 
> > > > The primary issue is the occasional failure of x/227 on the maintainer's
> > > > testing system. :P
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Ok.
> > > 
> > > > The secondary issue is sporadic undiagnosed internal complaints which
> > > > are nearly impossible to do much triage on, due to an amazingly s****y
> > > > iscsi network that drops so much traffic you can't collect any
> > > > telemetry.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Heh.
> > > 
> > > In any event, I can't reproduce so I don't have enough information to
> > > determine whether there's value in this kind of fix. It's more efficient
> > > than the current approach for rmapbt swapext, but reserving an extra
> > > fixed number of blocks for forks that straddle smaller format boundaries
> > > isn't that terrible either for a one-off case IMO. Let me know if you
> > > happen to get more information and/or can effectively give this a test
> > > with any of your sporadic reproducers...
> > 
> > Yes!  I've finally figured out how this can trigger.
> > 
> > Let's say for demonstration purposes that IFORK_MAXEXT for both files is
> > 20.  File A is a 42 block file with 21 extents:
> > 
> > AABBCCDDEEFFGGHHIIJJKKLLMMNNOOPPQQRRSSTTUU
> > 
> > File B is a 42 block file with 20 extents:
> > 
> > VWWXXYYZZaabbccddeeffgghhiijjkkllmmnnooppp
> > 
> > File A has MAXEXT+1 extents, which means that each unmap-remap cycle
> > will cycle it between btree and extents format.  File B has fewer than
> > MAXEXT extents, so it won't cycle.  The block reservation computation
> > for the rmap-based swap does this:
> > 
> > 	/*
> > 	 * Conceptually this shouldn't affect the shape of either bmbt,
> > 	 * but since we atomically move extents one by one, we reserve
> > 	 * enough space to rebuild both trees.
> > 	 */
> > 	resblks = XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, ipnext, w);
> > 	resblks +=  XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, tipnext, w);
> > 
> > 	/*
> > 	 * Handle the corner case where either inode might straddle the
> > 	 * btree format boundary. If so, the inode could bounce between
> > 	 * btree <-> extent format on unmap -> remap cycles, freeing and
> > 	 * allocating a bmapbt block each time.
> > 	 */
> > 	if (ipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w) + 1))
> > 		resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w);
> > 	if (tipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w) + 1))
> > 		resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w);
> > 
> > Let's say the filesystem is small enough that XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES()
> > returns 7 for both file A and file B, because 21 bmap records will fit
> > in a single bmbt block; the max bmbt height is 5; 21 rmap records will
> > fit in a single rmapbt block; and the max rmapbt height is 2.  The total
> > block reservation is therefore 7 + 7 + 20 = 34.
> > 
> > But now let's look at what the rmap swap operation actually does.  It
> > walks both files in order of increasing file offset, swapping the length
> > of the longest contiguous mapping for both files starting at the offset.
> > 
> > This scenario is the worst case for the rmap swap because the extents
> > are just offset enough that we have to perform single-block swaps for
> > every file offset except the last two: A[0] <-> v, A[1] <-> W[0], B[0]
> > <-> W[1], etc.  This means that file A cycles between btree and extents
> > format 41 times, but we only reserved 34 blocks and so run out 4/5 of
> > the way through.
> > 
> 
> Ah, I see. So the extra block res calculation is off in that it assumes
> a swap per extent, but the reality is we can perform many more
> (sub-extent) swaps than that if extent offsets are staggered.

Yes.

> > What we really need in the ping-pong case is to add the number of swaps
> > we're going to make to resblks.  This is what I have now done for the
> > atomic file update series.
> > 
> 
> Makes sense, but that's not necessarily a straightforward calculation is
> it?

<shrug> I built one for the atomic file updates series.  It's a little
stupid that we end up walking the extent list twice, but for /that/ use
case it's worth it to ensure correct operation and proper quota
accounting.  And since it works on subranges of files, we can't just use
di_nblocks/di_nextents as a rough guess....

(Granted its worth it not to cause fs shutdowns either...)

> > There also seems to be the potential for pingpong behavior if the number
> > of bmap records is exactly the maximum number of bmbt records per block
> > + 1 -- we start with two bmbt blocks, combine them when we remove the
> > record, but then we have to re-expand the bmbt when we add a record
> > back.
> > 
> 
> Indeed. The above and things like this are what make me wonder if it
> would be better to use a "reserve freed blocks" accounting mode on this
> transaction and not have to artificially bump the reservation at all.

<nod> That would be a much simpler solution to the pingpong problem.

> A simplified alternative could be to try and explicitly replenish the
> block reservation after each swap and the transaction is rolled to a
> clean state. The risk with that is it introduces a legitimate -ENOSPC
> error path mid operation. OTOH, we should only be talking about a single
> block at a time so it should be rare. Perhaps we could even (ab)use the
> reserve pool since technically this is cycling between allocating and
> freeing blocks. FWIW, at a quick glance it looks like xfs_fsr copies
> file data before swapping extents, so I'd expect that would leave the
> file in a coherent state even if the swap was interrupted.

For fsr yes that's true.  I think that could be a reasonable and
performant approach for the defrag case.  The heavyweight stuff would be
suited for atomic file changes, since everyone knows that's a hard ask
for any filesystem.

--D

> Brian
> 
> > --D
> > 
> > > Brian
> > > 
> > > > The tertiary(?) issue is that "fortunately" the atomic file update
> > > > series + fsx have proven good at testing the weaknesses of the block
> > > > reservation calculations for swap extents.
> > > > 
> > > > --D
> > > > 
> > > > > Brian
> > > > > 
> > > > > > --D
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Brian
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > In unrelated news, I also tried fixing the log recovery defer ops chain
> > > > > > > > transactions to absorb the unused block reservations that the
> > > > > > > > xfs_*i_item_recover functions created, but that just made fdblocks be
> > > > > > > > wrong.  But it didn't otherwise blow up! :P
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --D
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Brian
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >  fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c | 11 -----------
> > > > > > > > >  fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c     |  4 ++++
> > > > > > > > >  2 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > > > > > > index f37f5cc4b19f..74b3bad6c414 100644
> > > > > > > > > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > > > > > > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_bmap_util.c
> > > > > > > > > @@ -1628,17 +1628,6 @@ xfs_swap_extents(
> > > > > > > > >  		 */
> > > > > > > > >  		resblks = XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, ipnext, w);
> > > > > > > > >  		resblks +=  XFS_SWAP_RMAP_SPACE_RES(mp, tipnext, w);
> > > > > > > > > -
> > > > > > > > > -		/*
> > > > > > > > > -		 * Handle the corner case where either inode might straddle the
> > > > > > > > > -		 * btree format boundary. If so, the inode could bounce between
> > > > > > > > > -		 * btree <-> extent format on unmap -> remap cycles, freeing and
> > > > > > > > > -		 * allocating a bmapbt block each time.
> > > > > > > > > -		 */
> > > > > > > > > -		if (ipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w) + 1))
> > > > > > > > > -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(ip, w);
> > > > > > > > > -		if (tipnext == (XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w) + 1))
> > > > > > > > > -			resblks += XFS_IFORK_MAXEXT(tip, w);
> > > > > > > > >  	}
> > > > > > > > >  	error = xfs_trans_alloc(mp, &M_RES(mp)->tr_write, resblks, 0, 0, &tp);
> > > > > > > > >  	if (error)
> > > > > > > > > diff --git a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > > > > > > index 28b983ff8b11..b421d27445c1 100644
> > > > > > > > > --- a/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > > > > > > +++ b/fs/xfs/xfs_trans.c
> > > > > > > > > @@ -370,6 +370,10 @@ xfs_trans_mod_sb(
> > > > > > > > >  			tp->t_blk_res_used += (uint)-delta;
> > > > > > > > >  			if (tp->t_blk_res_used > tp->t_blk_res)
> > > > > > > > >  				xfs_force_shutdown(mp, SHUTDOWN_CORRUPT_INCORE);
> > > > > > > > > +		} else if (delta > 0 &&
> > > > > > > > > +			   xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb)) {
> > > > > > > > > +			tp->t_blk_res += delta;
> > > > > > > > > +			delta = 0;
> > > > > > > > >  		}
> > > > > > > > >  		tp->t_fdblocks_delta += delta;
> > > > > > > > >  		if (xfs_sb_version_haslazysbcount(&mp->m_sb))
> > > > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > > > 2.21.1
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> 

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