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From: Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com>
To: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	Peter Collingbourne <pcc@google.com>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>,
	Nathan Chancellor <natechancellor@gmail.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	"maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE (32-BIT AND 64-BIT)"
	<x86@kernel.org>,
	clang-built-linux <clang-built-linux@googlegroups.com>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-efi <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 23/36] arm/build: Explicitly keep .ARM.attributes sections
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 15:06:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200817220629.3pkabegeedomsaaz@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKwvOdn11z+iFQZC54JvQHC=NFX1FsoRMw2a-2P=5sQ6FKwbnw@mail.gmail.com>

On 2020-08-03, 'Nick Desaulniers' via Clang Built Linux wrote:
>On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 4:18 PM Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>> In preparation for adding --orphan-handling=warn, explicitly keep the
>> .ARM.attributes section by expanding the existing ELF_DETAILS macro into
>> ARM_DETAILS.
>>
>> Suggested-by: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAKwvOdk-racgq5pxsoGS6Vtifbtrk5fmkmnoLxrQMaOvV0nPWw@mail.gmail.com/
>> Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
>> ---
>>  arch/arm/include/asm/vmlinux.lds.h | 4 ++++
>>  arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux-xip.lds.S  | 2 +-
>>  arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux.lds.S      | 2 +-
>>  3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/arm/include/asm/vmlinux.lds.h b/arch/arm/include/asm/vmlinux.lds.h
>> index a08f4301b718..c4af5182ab48 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm/include/asm/vmlinux.lds.h
>> +++ b/arch/arm/include/asm/vmlinux.lds.h
>> @@ -52,6 +52,10 @@
>>                 ARM_MMU_DISCARD(*(__ex_table))                          \
>>                 COMMON_DISCARDS
>>
>> +#define ARM_DETAILS                                                    \
>> +               ELF_DETAILS                                             \
>> +               .ARM.attributes 0 : { *(.ARM.attributes) }
>
>I had to look up what the `0` meant:
>https://sourceware.org/binutils/docs/ld/Output-Section-Attributes.html#Output-Section-Attributes
>mentions it's an "address" and
>https://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/Manuals/ld-2.9.1/html_chapter/ld_3.html#SEC21
>mentions it as "start" (an address).
>Unless we need those, can we drop them? (Sorry for the resulting churn
>that would cause).  I think the NO_LOAD stuff makes more sense, but
>I'm curious if the kernel checks for that.

NOLOAD means SHT_NOBITS (usually SHF_ALLOC). .ARM.attributes is a
non-SHF_ALLOC section.

An explicit 0 (output section address) is good - GNU ld's internal
linker scripts (ld --verbose output) use 0 for such non-SHF_ALLOC sections.
Without the 0, the section may get a non-zero address, which is not
wrong - but probably does not look well. See https://reviews.llvm.org/D85867 for details.


Reviewed-by: Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com>

>> +
>>  #define ARM_STUBS_TEXT                                                 \
>>                 *(.gnu.warning)                                         \
>>                 *(.glue_7)                                              \
>> diff --git a/arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux-xip.lds.S b/arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux-xip.lds.S
>> index 904c31fa20ed..57fcbf55f913 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux-xip.lds.S
>> +++ b/arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux-xip.lds.S
>> @@ -150,7 +150,7 @@ SECTIONS
>>         _end = .;
>>
>>         STABS_DEBUG
>> -       ELF_DETAILS
>> +       ARM_DETAILS
>>  }
>>
>>  /*
>> diff --git a/arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux.lds.S b/arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux.lds.S
>> index bb950c896a67..1d3d3b599635 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux.lds.S
>> +++ b/arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux.lds.S
>> @@ -149,7 +149,7 @@ SECTIONS
>>         _end = .;
>>
>>         STABS_DEBUG
>> -       ELF_DETAILS
>> +       ARM_DETAILS
>>  }
>>
>>  #ifdef CONFIG_STRICT_KERNEL_RWX
>> --
>> 2.25.1
>>

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From: Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com>
To: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-efi <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Peter Collingbourne <pcc@google.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Masahiro Yamada <masahiroy@kernel.org>,
	"maintainer:X86 ARCHITECTURE \(32-BIT AND 64-BIT\)"
	<x86@kernel.org>, Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Nathan Chancellor <natechancellor@gmail.com>,
	clang-built-linux <clang-built-linux@googlegroups.com>,
	Arvind Sankar <nivedita@alum.mit.edu>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>, Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 23/36] arm/build: Explicitly keep .ARM.attributes sections
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2020 15:06:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200817220629.3pkabegeedomsaaz@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKwvOdn11z+iFQZC54JvQHC=NFX1FsoRMw2a-2P=5sQ6FKwbnw@mail.gmail.com>

On 2020-08-03, 'Nick Desaulniers' via Clang Built Linux wrote:
>On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 4:18 PM Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>> In preparation for adding --orphan-handling=warn, explicitly keep the
>> .ARM.attributes section by expanding the existing ELF_DETAILS macro into
>> ARM_DETAILS.
>>
>> Suggested-by: Nick Desaulniers <ndesaulniers@google.com>
>> Link: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAKwvOdk-racgq5pxsoGS6Vtifbtrk5fmkmnoLxrQMaOvV0nPWw@mail.gmail.com/
>> Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
>> ---
>>  arch/arm/include/asm/vmlinux.lds.h | 4 ++++
>>  arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux-xip.lds.S  | 2 +-
>>  arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux.lds.S      | 2 +-
>>  3 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/arch/arm/include/asm/vmlinux.lds.h b/arch/arm/include/asm/vmlinux.lds.h
>> index a08f4301b718..c4af5182ab48 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm/include/asm/vmlinux.lds.h
>> +++ b/arch/arm/include/asm/vmlinux.lds.h
>> @@ -52,6 +52,10 @@
>>                 ARM_MMU_DISCARD(*(__ex_table))                          \
>>                 COMMON_DISCARDS
>>
>> +#define ARM_DETAILS                                                    \
>> +               ELF_DETAILS                                             \
>> +               .ARM.attributes 0 : { *(.ARM.attributes) }
>
>I had to look up what the `0` meant:
>https://sourceware.org/binutils/docs/ld/Output-Section-Attributes.html#Output-Section-Attributes
>mentions it's an "address" and
>https://ftp.gnu.org/old-gnu/Manuals/ld-2.9.1/html_chapter/ld_3.html#SEC21
>mentions it as "start" (an address).
>Unless we need those, can we drop them? (Sorry for the resulting churn
>that would cause).  I think the NO_LOAD stuff makes more sense, but
>I'm curious if the kernel checks for that.

NOLOAD means SHT_NOBITS (usually SHF_ALLOC). .ARM.attributes is a
non-SHF_ALLOC section.

An explicit 0 (output section address) is good - GNU ld's internal
linker scripts (ld --verbose output) use 0 for such non-SHF_ALLOC sections.
Without the 0, the section may get a non-zero address, which is not
wrong - but probably does not look well. See https://reviews.llvm.org/D85867 for details.


Reviewed-by: Fangrui Song <maskray@google.com>

>> +
>>  #define ARM_STUBS_TEXT                                                 \
>>                 *(.gnu.warning)                                         \
>>                 *(.glue_7)                                              \
>> diff --git a/arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux-xip.lds.S b/arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux-xip.lds.S
>> index 904c31fa20ed..57fcbf55f913 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux-xip.lds.S
>> +++ b/arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux-xip.lds.S
>> @@ -150,7 +150,7 @@ SECTIONS
>>         _end = .;
>>
>>         STABS_DEBUG
>> -       ELF_DETAILS
>> +       ARM_DETAILS
>>  }
>>
>>  /*
>> diff --git a/arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux.lds.S b/arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux.lds.S
>> index bb950c896a67..1d3d3b599635 100644
>> --- a/arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux.lds.S
>> +++ b/arch/arm/kernel/vmlinux.lds.S
>> @@ -149,7 +149,7 @@ SECTIONS
>>         _end = .;
>>
>>         STABS_DEBUG
>> -       ELF_DETAILS
>> +       ARM_DETAILS
>>  }
>>
>>  #ifdef CONFIG_STRICT_KERNEL_RWX
>> --
>> 2.25.1
>>

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Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-31 23:07 [PATCH v5 00/36] Warn on orphan section placement Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07 ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07 ` [PATCH v5 01/36] x86/boot/compressed: Move .got.plt entries out of the .got section Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-08-14 15:23   ` [tip: x86/boot] " tip-bot2 for Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-31 23:07 ` [PATCH v5 02/36] x86/boot/compressed: Force hidden visibility for all symbol references Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-08-14 15:23   ` [tip: x86/boot] " tip-bot2 for Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-31 23:07 ` [PATCH v5 03/36] x86/boot/compressed: Get rid of GOT fixup code Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-08-14 15:23   ` [tip: x86/boot] " tip-bot2 for Ard Biesheuvel
2020-07-31 23:07 ` [PATCH v5 04/36] x86/boot: Add .text.* to setup.ld Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-08-14 15:23   ` [tip: x86/boot] " tip-bot2 for Arvind Sankar
2020-07-31 23:07 ` [PATCH v5 05/36] x86/boot: Remove run-time relocations from .head.text code Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:42   ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-07-31 23:42     ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-07-31 23:42     ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-14 15:23   ` [tip: x86/boot] " tip-bot2 for Arvind Sankar
2020-07-31 23:07 ` [PATCH v5 06/36] x86/boot: Remove run-time relocations from head_{32,64}.S Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` [PATCH v5 06/36] x86/boot: Remove run-time relocations from head_{32, 64}.S Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` [PATCH v5 06/36] x86/boot: Remove run-time relocations from head_{32,64}.S Kees Cook
2020-08-07 18:12   ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-07 18:12     ` [PATCH v5 06/36] x86/boot: Remove run-time relocations from head_{32, 64}.S Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-07 20:20     ` [PATCH v5 06/36] x86/boot: Remove run-time relocations from head_{32,64}.S Arvind Sankar
2020-08-07 20:20       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-14 15:23   ` [tip: x86/boot] " tip-bot2 for Arvind Sankar
2020-07-31 23:07 ` [PATCH v5 07/36] x86/boot: Check that there are no run-time relocations Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-08-14 15:23   ` [tip: x86/boot] " tip-bot2 for Arvind Sankar
2020-07-31 23:07 ` [PATCH v5 08/36] vmlinux.lds.h: Create COMMON_DISCARDS Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07 ` [PATCH v5 09/36] vmlinux.lds.h: Add .gnu.version* to COMMON_DISCARDS Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07 ` [PATCH v5 10/36] vmlinux.lds.h: Avoid KASAN and KCSAN's unwanted sections Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07 ` [PATCH v5 11/36] vmlinux.lds.h: Split ELF_DETAILS from STABS_DEBUG Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07 ` [PATCH v5 12/36] vmlinux.lds.h: Add .symtab, .strtab, and .shstrtab to ELF_DETAILS Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07 ` [PATCH v5 13/36] vmlinux.lds.h: add PGO and AutoFDO input sections Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-08-01  3:51   ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-01  3:51     ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-01  3:51     ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-01  6:18     ` Kees Cook
2020-08-01  6:18       ` Kees Cook
2020-08-01  6:18       ` Kees Cook
2020-08-01 17:27       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-01 17:27         ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-01 17:27         ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-03 19:05     ` Andi Kleen
2020-08-03 19:05       ` Andi Kleen
2020-08-03 19:05       ` Andi Kleen
2020-08-03 20:15       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-03 20:15         ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-03 20:15         ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-04  1:19         ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2020-08-04  1:19           ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2020-08-04  1:19           ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2020-08-04  4:45         ` Andi Kleen
2020-08-04  4:45           ` Andi Kleen
2020-08-04  4:45           ` Andi Kleen
2020-08-04  5:32           ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2020-08-04  5:32             ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2020-08-04  5:32             ` Fāng-ruì Sòng
2020-08-04 16:06           ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-04 16:06             ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-04 16:06             ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-21 19:18             ` Kees Cook
2020-08-21 19:18               ` Kees Cook
2020-08-06  1:24   ` Sasha Levin
2020-08-06  1:28     ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-19 23:56   ` Sasha Levin
2020-07-31 23:07 ` [PATCH v5 14/36] efi/libstub: Disable -mbranch-protection Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07 ` [PATCH v5 15/36] arm64/mm: Remove needless section quotes Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:07   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 16/36] arm64/kernel: Remove needless Call Frame Information annotations Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 17/36] arm64/build: Remove .eh_frame* sections due to unwind tables Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 18/36] arm64/build: Use common DISCARDS in linker script Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 19/36] arm64/build: Add missing DWARF sections Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 20/36] arm64/build: Assert for unwanted sections Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 21/36] arm64/build: Warn on orphan section placement Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 22/36] arm/build: Refactor linker script headers Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 23/36] arm/build: Explicitly keep .ARM.attributes sections Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-08-03 19:02   ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-03 19:02     ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-03 19:02     ` Nick Desaulniers
2020-08-17 22:06     ` Fangrui Song [this message]
2020-08-17 22:06       ` Fangrui Song
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 24/36] arm/build: Add missing sections Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 25/36] arm/build: Warn on orphan section placement Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 26/36] arm/boot: Handle all sections explicitly Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 27/36] arm/boot: Warn on orphan section placement Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 28/36] x86/asm: Avoid generating unused kprobe sections Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 29/36] x86/build: Enforce an empty .got.plt section Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-08-01  2:12   ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-01  2:12     ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-01  5:32     ` Kees Cook
2020-08-01  5:32       ` Kees Cook
2020-08-21 17:49     ` Kees Cook
2020-08-21 17:49       ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 30/36] x86/build: Assert for unwanted sections Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 31/36] x86/build: Warn on orphan section placement Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 32/36] x86/boot/compressed: Reorganize zero-size section asserts Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-08-01  1:47   ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-01  1:47     ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-01  2:53     ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-01  2:53       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-01  5:36       ` Kees Cook
2020-08-01  5:36         ` Kees Cook
2020-08-01 17:12         ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-01 17:12           ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-21 18:24           ` Kees Cook
2020-08-21 18:24             ` Kees Cook
2020-08-01  5:35     ` Kees Cook
2020-08-01  5:35       ` Kees Cook
2020-08-01 17:00       ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-01 17:00         ` Arvind Sankar
2020-08-21 18:19     ` Kees Cook
2020-08-21 18:19       ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 33/36] x86/boot/compressed: Remove, discard, or assert for unwanted sections Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 34/36] x86/boot/compressed: Add missing debugging sections to output Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 35/36] x86/boot/compressed: Warn on orphan section placement Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08 ` [PATCH v5 36/36] arm/build: Assert for unwanted sections Kees Cook
2020-07-31 23:08   ` Kees Cook

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