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From: Chris Down <chris@chrisdown.name>
To: peterz@infradead.org
Cc: Waiman Long <longman@redhat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov.dev@gmail.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/8] memcg: Enable fine-grained per process memory control
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 10:27:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200818092737.GA148695@chrisdown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200818091453.GL2674@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

peterz@infradead.org writes:
>On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:08:23AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>> Memory controller can be used to control and limit the amount of
>> physical memory used by a task. When a limit is set in "memory.high" in
>> a v2 non-root memory cgroup, the memory controller will try to reclaim
>> memory if the limit has been exceeded. Normally, that will be enough
>> to keep the physical memory consumption of tasks in the memory cgroup
>> to be around or below the "memory.high" limit.
>>
>> Sometimes, memory reclaim may not be able to recover memory in a rate
>> that can catch up to the physical memory allocation rate. In this case,
>> the physical memory consumption will keep on increasing.
>
>Then slow down the allocator? That's what we do for dirty pages too, we
>slow down the dirtier when we run against the limits.

We already do that since v5.4. I'm wondering whether Waiman's customer is just 
running with a too-old kernel without 0e4b01df865 ("mm, memcg: throttle 
allocators when failing reclaim over memory.high") backported.

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From: Chris Down <chris-6Bi1550iOqEnzZ6mRAm98g@public.gmane.org>
To: peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org
Cc: Waiman Long <longman-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Vladimir Davydov
	<vdavydov.dev-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet-T1hC0tSOHrs@public.gmane.org>,
	Alexey Dobriyan
	<adobriyan-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Juri Lelli <juri.lelli-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Vincent Guittot
	<vincent.guittot-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-doc-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/8] memcg: Enable fine-grained per process memory control
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2020 10:27:37 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200818092737.GA148695@chrisdown.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200818091453.GL2674-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>

peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org writes:
>On Mon, Aug 17, 2020 at 10:08:23AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>> Memory controller can be used to control and limit the amount of
>> physical memory used by a task. When a limit is set in "memory.high" in
>> a v2 non-root memory cgroup, the memory controller will try to reclaim
>> memory if the limit has been exceeded. Normally, that will be enough
>> to keep the physical memory consumption of tasks in the memory cgroup
>> to be around or below the "memory.high" limit.
>>
>> Sometimes, memory reclaim may not be able to recover memory in a rate
>> that can catch up to the physical memory allocation rate. In this case,
>> the physical memory consumption will keep on increasing.
>
>Then slow down the allocator? That's what we do for dirty pages too, we
>slow down the dirtier when we run against the limits.

We already do that since v5.4. I'm wondering whether Waiman's customer is just 
running with a too-old kernel without 0e4b01df865 ("mm, memcg: throttle 
allocators when failing reclaim over memory.high") backported.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-08-18  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-17 14:08 [RFC PATCH 0/8] memcg: Enable fine-grained per process memory control Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 1/8] memcg: Enable fine-grained control of over memory.high action Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:30   ` Chris Down
2020-08-17 15:38     ` Waiman Long
2020-08-17 16:11       ` Chris Down
2020-08-17 16:44   ` Shakeel Butt
2020-08-17 16:44     ` Shakeel Butt
2020-08-17 16:56     ` Chris Down
2020-08-18 19:12       ` Waiman Long
2020-08-18 19:14     ` Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 2/8] memcg, mm: Return ENOMEM or delay if memcg_over_limit Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 3/8] memcg: Allow the use of task RSS memory as over-high action trigger Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08   ` Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 4/8] fs/proc: Support a new procfs memctl file Waiman Long
2020-08-17 20:10   ` kernel test robot
2020-08-17 20:10   ` [RFC PATCH] fs/proc: proc_memctl_operations can be static kernel test robot
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 5/8] memcg: Allow direct per-task memory limit checking Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 6/8] memcg: Introduce additional memory control slowdown if needed Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 7/8] memcg: Enable logging of memory control mitigation action Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08   ` Waiman Long
2020-08-17 14:08 ` [RFC PATCH 8/8] memcg: Add over-high action prctl() documentation Waiman Long
2020-08-17 15:26 ` [RFC PATCH 0/8] memcg: Enable fine-grained per process memory control Michal Hocko
2020-08-17 15:55   ` Waiman Long
2020-08-17 15:55     ` Waiman Long
2020-08-17 19:26     ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 19:20       ` Waiman Long
2020-08-18 19:20         ` Waiman Long
2020-08-18  9:14 ` peterz
2020-08-18  9:14   ` peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ
2020-08-18  9:26   ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18  9:26     ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18  9:59     ` peterz
2020-08-18  9:59       ` peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ
2020-08-18 10:05       ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 10:18         ` peterz
2020-08-18 10:30           ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 10:36             ` peterz
2020-08-18 13:49           ` Johannes Weiner
2020-08-18 13:49             ` Johannes Weiner
2020-08-21 19:37             ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-21 19:37               ` Peter Zijlstra
2020-08-24 16:58               ` Johannes Weiner
2020-09-07 11:47                 ` Chris Down
2020-09-09 11:53                 ` Michal Hocko
2020-08-18 10:17       ` Chris Down
2020-08-18 10:17         ` Chris Down
2020-08-18 10:26         ` peterz
2020-08-18 10:35           ` Chris Down
2020-08-23  2:49         ` Waiman Long
2020-08-23  2:49           ` Waiman Long
2020-08-18  9:27   ` Chris Down [this message]
2020-08-18  9:27     ` Chris Down
2020-08-18 10:04     ` peterz
2020-08-18 12:55       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-18 12:55         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-20  6:11         ` Dave Chinner
2020-08-18 19:30     ` Waiman Long
2020-08-18 19:27   ` Waiman Long

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