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From: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>
To: peterz@infradead.org
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Hewllig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
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	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Ley Foon Tan <ley.foon.tan@intel.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Stafford Horne <shorne@gmail.com>,
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	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Chartre <alexandre.chartre@oracle.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Tom Zanussi <zanussi@kernel.org>,
	Xiao Yang <yangx.jy@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, uclinux-h8-devel@lists.sourceforge.jp,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, kgdb-bugreport@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] Introduce kernel_clone(), kill _do_fork()
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 10:45:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200819084556.im5zfpm2iquzvzws@wittgenstein> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200819074340.GW2674@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 09:43:40AM +0200, peterz@infradead.org wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 06:44:47PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 07:34:00PM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > > The only remaining function callable outside of kernel/fork.c is
> > > _do_fork(). It doesn't really follow the naming of kernel-internal
> > > syscall helpers as Christoph righly pointed out. Switch all callers and
> > > references to kernel_clone() and remove _do_fork() once and for all.
> > 
> > My only concern is around return type.  long, int, pid_t ... can we
> > choose one and stick to it?  pid_t is probably the right return type
> > within the kernel, despite the return type of clone3().  It'll save us
> > some work if we ever go through the hassle of growing pid_t beyond 31-bit.
> 
> We have at least the futex ABI restricting PID space to 30 bits.

Ok, looking into kernel/futex.c I see 

pid_t pid = uval & FUTEX_TID_MASK;

which is probably what this referes to and /proc/sys/kernel/threads-max
is restricted to FUTEX_TID_MASK.

Afaict, that doesn't block switching kernel_clone() to return pid_t. It
can't create anything > FUTEX_TID_MASK anyway without yelling EAGAIN at
userspace. But it means that _if_ we were to change the size of pid_t
we'd likely need a new futex API. 

Christian

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>
To: peterz@infradead.org
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
	Christoph Hewllig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
	Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	Ley Foon Tan <ley.foon.tan@intel.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Stafford Horne <shorne@gmail.com>,
	Kars de Jong <jongk@linux-m68k.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Greentime Hu <green.hu@gmail.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Chartre <alexandre.chartre@oracle.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
	Tom Zanussi <zanussi@kernel.org>,
	Xiao Yang <yangx.jy@cn.fujitsu.com>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, uclinux-h8-devel@lists.sourceforge.jp,
	linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-m68k@lists.linux-m68k.org,
	sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, kgdb-bugreport@lists.sourceforge.net,
	linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/11] Introduce kernel_clone(), kill _do_fork()
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2020 08:45:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200819084556.im5zfpm2iquzvzws@wittgenstein> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200819074340.GW2674@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 09:43:40AM +0200, peterz@infradead.org wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 06:44:47PM +0100, Matthew Wilcox wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 07:34:00PM +0200, Christian Brauner wrote:
> > > The only remaining function callable outside of kernel/fork.c is
> > > _do_fork(). It doesn't really follow the naming of kernel-internal
> > > syscall helpers as Christoph righly pointed out. Switch all callers and
> > > references to kernel_clone() and remove _do_fork() once and for all.
> > 
> > My only concern is around return type.  long, int, pid_t ... can we
> > choose one and stick to it?  pid_t is probably the right return type
> > within the kernel, despite the return type of clone3().  It'll save us
> > some work if we ever go through the hassle of growing pid_t beyond 31-bit.
> 
> We have at least the futex ABI restricting PID space to 30 bits.

Ok, looking into kernel/futex.c I see 

pid_t pid = uval & FUTEX_TID_MASK;

which is probably what this referes to and /proc/sys/kernel/threads-max
is restricted to FUTEX_TID_MASK.

Afaict, that doesn't block switching kernel_clone() to return pid_t. It
can't create anything > FUTEX_TID_MASK anyway without yelling EAGAIN at
userspace. But it means that _if_ we were to change the size of pid_t
we'd likely need a new futex API. 

Christian

  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-19  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-18 17:34 [PATCH 00/11] Introduce kernel_clone(), kill _do_fork() Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34 ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34 ` [PATCH 01/11] fork: introduce kernel_clone() Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34   ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34 ` [PATCH 02/11] h8300: switch to kernel_clone() Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34   ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34 ` [PATCH 03/11] ia64: " Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34   ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34 ` [PATCH 04/11] m68k: " Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34   ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-19  8:45   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-08-19  8:45     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2020-08-18 17:34 ` [PATCH 05/11] nios2: " Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34   ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34 ` [PATCH 06/11] sparc: " Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34   ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34 ` [PATCH 07/11] x86: " Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34   ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34 ` [PATCH 08/11] kprobes: " Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34   ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34 ` [PATCH 09/11] kgdbts: " Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34   ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34 ` [PATCH 10/11] tracing: " Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34   ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34 ` [PATCH 11/11] sched: remove _do_fork() Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:34   ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:44 ` [PATCH 00/11] Introduce kernel_clone(), kill _do_fork() Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-18 17:44   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-18 17:57   ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-18 17:57     ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-19  7:43   ` peterz
2020-08-19  7:43     ` peterz
2020-08-19  8:45     ` Christian Brauner [this message]
2020-08-19  8:45       ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-19 11:18       ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-19 11:18         ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-19 13:32         ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-08-19 13:32           ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-08-19 13:46           ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-19 13:46             ` Christian Brauner
2020-08-19 15:01             ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-08-19 15:01               ` Eric W. Biederman
2020-08-19 15:41               ` David Laight
2020-08-19 15:41                 ` David Laight
2020-08-19 15:45                 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-19 15:45                   ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-19 15:55                   ` David Laight
2020-08-19 15:55                     ` David Laight
2020-08-19 16:24                     ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-08-19 16:24                       ` Matthew Wilcox

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