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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Marco Elver <elver@google.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] random32: Use rcuidle variant for tracepoint
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 20:38:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200821183859.GS3982@worktop.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200821114141.4b564190@oasis.local.home>

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 11:41:41AM -0400, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 11:38:31 -0400
> Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org> wrote:
> 
> > > > At some point we're going to have to introduce noinstr to idle as well.
> > > > But until that time this should indeed cure things.    
> > > 
> 
> What the above means, is that ideally we will get rid of all
> tracepoints and kasan checks from these RCU not watching locations. But

s/and kasan//

We only need to get rid of explicit tracepoints -- typically just move
them outside of the rcu_idle_enter/exit section.

> to do so, we need to move the RCU not watching as close as possible to
> where it doesn't need to be watching, and that is not as trivial of a
> task as one might think.

My recent patch series got a fair way towards that, but yes, there's
more work to be done still.

> Once we get to a minimal code path for RCU not
> to be watching, it will become "noinstr" and tracing and "debugging"
> will be disabled in these sections.

Right, noinstr is like notrace on steriods, not only does it disallow
tracing, it will also disable all the various *SAN/KCOV instrumentation.
It also has objtool based validation which ensures noinstr code doesn't
call out to regular code.


  reply	other threads:[~2020-08-21 18:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-08-21  6:30 [PATCH] random32: Use rcuidle variant for tracepoint Marco Elver
2020-08-21  8:58 ` Marco Elver
2020-08-21  8:59 ` peterz
2020-08-21 15:06   ` Eric Dumazet
2020-08-21 15:35     ` Marco Elver
2020-09-18  1:21       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-21 15:38     ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-21 15:41       ` Steven Rostedt
2020-08-21 18:38         ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2020-10-09  7:58 ` [tip: locking/core] kcsan: Use tracing-safe version of prandom tip-bot2 for Marco Elver

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