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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	"Stephen Bates" <sbates@raithlin.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	"Ira Weiny" <iweiny@intel.com>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Don Dutile" <ddutile@redhat.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 14/15] PCI/P2PDMA: Introduce pci_mmap_p2pmem()
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 15:30:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201106193024.GW36674@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <09885400-36f8-bc1d-27f0-a8adcf6104d4@deltatee.com>

On Fri, Nov 06, 2020 at 11:20:05AM -0700, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2020-11-06 11:09 a.m., Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> >> Ah, hmm, yes. I guess the pages have to be hooked and returned to the
> >> genalloc through free_devmap_managed_page(). 
> > 
> > That sounds about right, but in this case it doesn't need the VMA
> > operations.
> > 
> >> Seems like it might be doable... but it will complicate things for
> >> users that don't want to use the genpool (though no such users exist
> >> upstream).
> > 
> > I would like to use this stuff in RDMA pretty much immediately and the
> > genpool is harmful for those cases, so please don't make decisions
> > that are tying thing to genpool
> 
> I certainly can't make decisions for code that isn't currently
> upstream.

The rdma drivers are all upstream, what are you thinking about?

> Ultimately, if you aren't using the genpool you will have to implement
> your own mmap operation that somehow allocates the pages and your own
> page_free hook. 

Sure, the mlx5 driver already has a specialized alloctor for it's BAR
pages.

> I also don't expect this to be going upstream in the near term so don't
> get too excited about using it.

I don't know, it is actually not that horrible, the GUP and IOMMU
related changes are simpler than I expected

Jason

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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>
Cc: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Ira Weiny" <iweiny@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	"Stephen Bates" <sbates@raithlin.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	"Don Dutile" <ddutile@redhat.com>,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 14/15] PCI/P2PDMA: Introduce pci_mmap_p2pmem()
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 15:30:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201106193024.GW36674@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <09885400-36f8-bc1d-27f0-a8adcf6104d4@deltatee.com>

On Fri, Nov 06, 2020 at 11:20:05AM -0700, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2020-11-06 11:09 a.m., Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> >> Ah, hmm, yes. I guess the pages have to be hooked and returned to the
> >> genalloc through free_devmap_managed_page(). 
> > 
> > That sounds about right, but in this case it doesn't need the VMA
> > operations.
> > 
> >> Seems like it might be doable... but it will complicate things for
> >> users that don't want to use the genpool (though no such users exist
> >> upstream).
> > 
> > I would like to use this stuff in RDMA pretty much immediately and the
> > genpool is harmful for those cases, so please don't make decisions
> > that are tying thing to genpool
> 
> I certainly can't make decisions for code that isn't currently
> upstream.

The rdma drivers are all upstream, what are you thinking about?

> Ultimately, if you aren't using the genpool you will have to implement
> your own mmap operation that somehow allocates the pages and your own
> page_free hook. 

Sure, the mlx5 driver already has a specialized alloctor for it's BAR
pages.

> I also don't expect this to be going upstream in the near term so don't
> get too excited about using it.

I don't know, it is actually not that horrible, the GUP and IOMMU
related changes are simpler than I expected

Jason

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http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/linux-nvme

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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca>
To: Logan Gunthorpe <logang@deltatee.com>
Cc: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	"Daniel Vetter" <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
	"Ira Weiny" <iweiny@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org,
	"Stephen Bates" <sbates@raithlin.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	"Matthew Wilcox" <willy@infradead.org>,
	"John Hubbard" <jhubbard@nvidia.com>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 14/15] PCI/P2PDMA: Introduce pci_mmap_p2pmem()
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 15:30:24 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20201106193024.GW36674@ziepe.ca> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <09885400-36f8-bc1d-27f0-a8adcf6104d4@deltatee.com>

On Fri, Nov 06, 2020 at 11:20:05AM -0700, Logan Gunthorpe wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2020-11-06 11:09 a.m., Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
> >> Ah, hmm, yes. I guess the pages have to be hooked and returned to the
> >> genalloc through free_devmap_managed_page(). 
> > 
> > That sounds about right, but in this case it doesn't need the VMA
> > operations.
> > 
> >> Seems like it might be doable... but it will complicate things for
> >> users that don't want to use the genpool (though no such users exist
> >> upstream).
> > 
> > I would like to use this stuff in RDMA pretty much immediately and the
> > genpool is harmful for those cases, so please don't make decisions
> > that are tying thing to genpool
> 
> I certainly can't make decisions for code that isn't currently
> upstream.

The rdma drivers are all upstream, what are you thinking about?

> Ultimately, if you aren't using the genpool you will have to implement
> your own mmap operation that somehow allocates the pages and your own
> page_free hook. 

Sure, the mlx5 driver already has a specialized alloctor for it's BAR
pages.

> I also don't expect this to be going upstream in the near term so don't
> get too excited about using it.

I don't know, it is actually not that horrible, the GUP and IOMMU
related changes are simpler than I expected

Jason
_______________________________________________
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iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org
https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/iommu

  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-06 19:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-06 17:00 [RFC PATCH 00/15] Userspace P2PDMA with O_DIRECT NVMe devices Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 01/15] PCI/P2PDMA: Don't sleep in upstream_bridge_distance_warn() Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-09  9:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-09  9:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-09  9:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-06 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 02/15] PCI/P2PDMA: Attempt to set map_type if it has not been set Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 03/15] PCI/P2PDMA: Introduce pci_p2pdma_should_map_bus() and pci_p2pdma_bus_offset() Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-10 23:25   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-11-10 23:25     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-11-10 23:25     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2020-11-10 23:42     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-10 23:42       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-10 23:42       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 04/15] lib/scatterlist: Add flag for indicating P2PDMA segments in an SGL Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-09  9:12   ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-09  9:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-09  9:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2020-11-09 14:02     ` Robin Murphy
2020-11-09 14:02       ` Robin Murphy
2020-11-09 14:02       ` Robin Murphy
2020-11-09 16:47     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-09 16:47       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-09 16:47       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-12-10  1:22       ` Dan Williams
2020-12-10  1:22         ` Dan Williams
2020-12-10  1:22         ` Dan Williams
2020-12-10  2:06         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-12-10  2:06           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-12-10  2:06           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-12-10  4:04           ` Dan Williams
2020-12-10  4:04             ` Dan Williams
2020-12-10  4:04             ` Dan Williams
2020-12-10 16:44             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-12-10 16:44               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-12-10 16:44               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 05/15] dma-direct: Support PCI P2PDMA pages in dma-direct map_sg Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 06/15] dma-mapping: Add flags to dma_map_ops to indicate PCI P2PDMA support Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 07/15] iommu/dma: Support PCI P2PDMA pages in dma-iommu map_sg Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 08/15] nvme-pci: Check DMA ops when indicating support for PCI P2PDMA Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 09/15] nvme-pci: Convert to using dma_map_sg for p2pdma pages Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 10/15] mm: Introduce FOLL_PCI_P2PDMA to gate getting PCI P2PDMA pages Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 11/15] iov_iter: Introduce iov_iter_get_pages_[alloc_]flags() Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 12/15] block: Set FOLL_PCI_P2PDMA in __bio_iov_iter_get_pages() Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 13/15] block: Set FOLL_PCI_P2PDMA in bio_map_user_iov() Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 14/15] PCI/P2PDMA: Introduce pci_mmap_p2pmem() Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:22   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:22     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:22     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:28     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:28       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:28       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:42       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:42         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:42         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:53         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:53           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:53           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 18:09           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 18:09             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 18:09             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 18:20             ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 18:20               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 18:20               ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 19:30               ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2020-11-06 19:30                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 19:30                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 19:44                 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 19:44                   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 19:44                   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 19:53                   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 19:53                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 19:53                     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 20:03                     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 20:03                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 20:03                       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-07  0:14                       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-07  0:14                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-07  0:14                         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-07  2:50                         ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-07  2:50                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-07  2:50                           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00 ` [RFC PATCH 15/15] nvme-pci: Allow mmaping the CMB in userspace Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:00   ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:39   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:39     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:39     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:43     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:43       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-06 17:43       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-09 15:03   ` Keith Busch
2020-11-09 15:03     ` Keith Busch
2020-11-09 15:03     ` Keith Busch
2020-11-09 16:50     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-09 16:50       ` Logan Gunthorpe
2020-11-09 16:50       ` Logan Gunthorpe

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