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From: "Yann E. MORIN" <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
To: Vineet Gupta <vgupta@synopsys.com>
Cc: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	Shreyas Joshi <shreyas.joshi@biamp.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	buildroot@busybox.net, arcml <linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	shreyasjoshi15@gmail.com, Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Subject: Re: [Buildroot] ARC no console output (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 16:27:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210107152724.GL1485369@scaer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d2a3b3c0-e548-7dd1-730f-59bc5c04e191@synopsys.com>

Vineet, All,

On 2021-01-06 15:36 -0800, Vineet Gupta spake thusly:
> On 11/11/20 5:54 AM, Petr Mladek wrote:
[--SNIP--]
> >Make sure that stdin, stdout, stderr, and /dev/console are always
> >available by a fallback to the existing ttynull driver. It has
> >been implemented for exactly this purpose but it was used only
> >when explicitly configured.
> >
> >Signed-off-by: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
> 
> >--- a/init/main.c
> >+++ b/init/main.c
> >@@ -1470,8 +1470,14 @@ void __init console_on_rootfs(void)
> >  	struct file *file = filp_open("/dev/console", O_RDWR, 0);
> >  	if (IS_ERR(file)) {
> >-		pr_err("Warning: unable to open an initial console.\n");
> >-		return;
> >+		pr_err("Warning: unable to open an initial console. Fallback to ttynull.\n");
> >+		register_ttynull_console();
> >+
> >+		file = filp_open("/dev/console", O_RDWR, 0);
> >+		if (IS_ERR(file)) {
> >+			pr_err("Warning: Failed to add ttynull console. No stdin, stdout, and stderr for the init process!\n");
> >+			return;
> >+		}
> 
> This breaks ARC booting (no output on console).
> 
> Our Buildroot based setup has dynamic /dev where /dev/console doesn't exist
> statically and there's a primoridla /init shell script which does following
> 
> /bin/mount -t devtmpfs devtmpfs /dev
> exec 0</dev/console
> exec 1>/dev/console
> exec 2>/dev/console
> exec /sbin/init "$@"

I guess you are speaking about the initramfs (cpio) case, right?

We've changed that code last August:

    https://git.buildroot.org/buildroot/commit/fs/cpio/init?id=b9026e83f

I.e. if we can't do the redirection, then we don't redirect anything.
The change was done for people who explicitly pass an empty console= on
their kernel command line.

Now, I haven't looked at nulltty yet, and I have (so far) no idea on how
it works. Thanks for the hint, I'll have a look.

> Buildroot has had this way of handling missing /dev/console since 2011 [1]
> and [2].

See also more archaelogy on that topic, referenced in that commit:
    https://git.buildroot.org/buildroot/commit/fs/cpio/?id=98a6f1fc02e41

> Please advise what needs to be done to unbork boot.

This has been present since the 2020.08 release, and has been backported
to the maintenance branches:
    2020.02.x (LTS) -> f1a83afe2df2a
    2020.05.x       -> 797f9e40224c9

> Otherwise this seems
> like a kernel change which breaks user-space and needs to be backed-out (or
> perhaps conditionalize on CONFIG_NULL_TTY. I'm surprised it hasn't been
> reported by any other  embedded folks

I won't speak about whether this is a kernel regression or not, not my
call.

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

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From: Yann E. MORIN <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
To: buildroot@busybox.net
Subject: [Buildroot] ARC no console output (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 16:27:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210107152724.GL1485369@scaer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d2a3b3c0-e548-7dd1-730f-59bc5c04e191@synopsys.com>

Vineet, All,

On 2021-01-06 15:36 -0800, Vineet Gupta spake thusly:
> On 11/11/20 5:54 AM, Petr Mladek wrote:
[--SNIP--]
> >Make sure that stdin, stdout, stderr, and /dev/console are always
> >available by a fallback to the existing ttynull driver. It has
> >been implemented for exactly this purpose but it was used only
> >when explicitly configured.
> >
> >Signed-off-by: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
> 
> >--- a/init/main.c
> >+++ b/init/main.c
> >@@ -1470,8 +1470,14 @@ void __init console_on_rootfs(void)
> >  	struct file *file = filp_open("/dev/console", O_RDWR, 0);
> >  	if (IS_ERR(file)) {
> >-		pr_err("Warning: unable to open an initial console.\n");
> >-		return;
> >+		pr_err("Warning: unable to open an initial console. Fallback to ttynull.\n");
> >+		register_ttynull_console();
> >+
> >+		file = filp_open("/dev/console", O_RDWR, 0);
> >+		if (IS_ERR(file)) {
> >+			pr_err("Warning: Failed to add ttynull console. No stdin, stdout, and stderr for the init process!\n");
> >+			return;
> >+		}
> 
> This breaks ARC booting (no output on console).
> 
> Our Buildroot based setup has dynamic /dev where /dev/console doesn't exist
> statically and there's a primoridla /init shell script which does following
> 
> /bin/mount -t devtmpfs devtmpfs /dev
> exec 0</dev/console
> exec 1>/dev/console
> exec 2>/dev/console
> exec /sbin/init "$@"

I guess you are speaking about the initramfs (cpio) case, right?

We've changed that code last August:

    https://git.buildroot.org/buildroot/commit/fs/cpio/init?id=b9026e83f

I.e. if we can't do the redirection, then we don't redirect anything.
The change was done for people who explicitly pass an empty console= on
their kernel command line.

Now, I haven't looked at nulltty yet, and I have (so far) no idea on how
it works. Thanks for the hint, I'll have a look.

> Buildroot has had this way of handling missing /dev/console since 2011 [1]
> and [2].

See also more archaelogy on that topic, referenced in that commit:
    https://git.buildroot.org/buildroot/commit/fs/cpio/?id=98a6f1fc02e41

> Please advise what needs to be done to unbork boot.

This has been present since the 2020.08 release, and has been backported
to the maintenance branches:
    2020.02.x (LTS) -> f1a83afe2df2a
    2020.05.x       -> 797f9e40224c9

> Otherwise this seems
> like a kernel change which breaks user-space and needs to be backed-out (or
> perhaps conditionalize on CONFIG_NULL_TTY. I'm surprised it hasn't been
> reported by any other  embedded folks

I won't speak about whether this is a kernel regression or not, not my
call.

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

-- 
.-----------------.--------------------.------------------.--------------------.
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'------------------------------^-------^------------------^--------------------'

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From: "Yann E. MORIN" <yann.morin.1998@free.fr>
To: Vineet Gupta <vgupta@synopsys.com>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@gmail.com>,
	John Ogness <john.ogness@linutronix.de>,
	Shreyas Joshi <shreyas.joshi@biamp.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@gmail.com>,
	Thomas Petazzoni <thomas.petazzoni@bootlin.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	buildroot@busybox.net, arcml <linux-snps-arc@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	shreyasjoshi15@gmail.com, Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Subject: Re: [Buildroot] ARC no console output (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2021 16:27:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210107152724.GL1485369@scaer> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d2a3b3c0-e548-7dd1-730f-59bc5c04e191@synopsys.com>

Vineet, All,

On 2021-01-06 15:36 -0800, Vineet Gupta spake thusly:
> On 11/11/20 5:54 AM, Petr Mladek wrote:
[--SNIP--]
> >Make sure that stdin, stdout, stderr, and /dev/console are always
> >available by a fallback to the existing ttynull driver. It has
> >been implemented for exactly this purpose but it was used only
> >when explicitly configured.
> >
> >Signed-off-by: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
> 
> >--- a/init/main.c
> >+++ b/init/main.c
> >@@ -1470,8 +1470,14 @@ void __init console_on_rootfs(void)
> >  	struct file *file = filp_open("/dev/console", O_RDWR, 0);
> >  	if (IS_ERR(file)) {
> >-		pr_err("Warning: unable to open an initial console.\n");
> >-		return;
> >+		pr_err("Warning: unable to open an initial console. Fallback to ttynull.\n");
> >+		register_ttynull_console();
> >+
> >+		file = filp_open("/dev/console", O_RDWR, 0);
> >+		if (IS_ERR(file)) {
> >+			pr_err("Warning: Failed to add ttynull console. No stdin, stdout, and stderr for the init process!\n");
> >+			return;
> >+		}
> 
> This breaks ARC booting (no output on console).
> 
> Our Buildroot based setup has dynamic /dev where /dev/console doesn't exist
> statically and there's a primoridla /init shell script which does following
> 
> /bin/mount -t devtmpfs devtmpfs /dev
> exec 0</dev/console
> exec 1>/dev/console
> exec 2>/dev/console
> exec /sbin/init "$@"

I guess you are speaking about the initramfs (cpio) case, right?

We've changed that code last August:

    https://git.buildroot.org/buildroot/commit/fs/cpio/init?id=b9026e83f

I.e. if we can't do the redirection, then we don't redirect anything.
The change was done for people who explicitly pass an empty console= on
their kernel command line.

Now, I haven't looked at nulltty yet, and I have (so far) no idea on how
it works. Thanks for the hint, I'll have a look.

> Buildroot has had this way of handling missing /dev/console since 2011 [1]
> and [2].

See also more archaelogy on that topic, referenced in that commit:
    https://git.buildroot.org/buildroot/commit/fs/cpio/?id=98a6f1fc02e41

> Please advise what needs to be done to unbork boot.

This has been present since the 2020.08 release, and has been backported
to the maintenance branches:
    2020.02.x (LTS) -> f1a83afe2df2a
    2020.05.x       -> 797f9e40224c9

> Otherwise this seems
> like a kernel change which breaks user-space and needs to be backed-out (or
> perhaps conditionalize on CONFIG_NULL_TTY. I'm surprised it hasn't been
> reported by any other  embedded folks

I won't speak about whether this is a kernel regression or not, not my
call.

Regards,
Yann E. MORIN.

-- 
.-----------------.--------------------.------------------.--------------------.
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| +33 662 376 056 | Software  Designer | \ / CAMPAIGN     |  ___               |
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'------------------------------^-------^------------------^--------------------'

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-07 15:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-11 13:54 [PATCH 0/2] printk/console: Use ttynull when no console is available or wanted Petr Mladek
2020-11-11 13:54 ` [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console Petr Mladek
2020-11-11 16:36   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2020-11-11 22:52   ` Guenter Roeck
2020-11-11 23:58   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-11-12  0:17   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-11-12  1:45     ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-11-16 16:20       ` Petr Mladek
2021-01-06 23:36   ` ARC no console output (was Re: [PATCH 1/2] init/console: Use ttynull as a fallback when there is no console) Vineet Gupta
2021-01-06 23:36     ` Vineet Gupta
2021-01-06 23:36     ` [Buildroot] " Vineet Gupta
2021-01-07  9:02     ` John Ogness
2021-01-07  9:02       ` John Ogness
2021-01-07 13:14       ` Greg Ungerer
2021-01-07 13:14         ` Greg Ungerer
2021-01-07 16:43       ` Vineet Gupta
2021-01-07 16:43         ` Vineet Gupta
2021-01-07 16:43         ` [Buildroot] " Vineet Gupta
2021-01-07 17:04         ` Petr Mladek
2021-01-07 17:04           ` Petr Mladek
2021-01-07 17:58           ` Vineet Gupta
2021-01-07 17:58             ` Vineet Gupta
2021-01-07 17:58             ` [Buildroot] " Vineet Gupta
2021-01-08  3:48             ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-01-08  3:48               ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2021-01-08  5:18               ` Vineet Gupta
2021-01-08  5:18                 ` Vineet Gupta
2021-01-08  5:18                 ` [Buildroot] " Vineet Gupta
2021-01-08  9:30                 ` Petr Mladek
2021-01-08  9:30                   ` Petr Mladek
2021-01-13 22:07             ` Peter Korsgaard
2021-01-13 22:07               ` Peter Korsgaard
2021-01-13 22:07               ` [Buildroot] " Peter Korsgaard
2021-01-07  9:09     ` Richard Weinberger
2021-01-07  9:09       ` Richard Weinberger
2021-01-07 12:48     ` Petr Mladek
2021-01-07 12:48       ` Petr Mladek
2021-01-07 15:27     ` Yann E. MORIN [this message]
2021-01-07 15:27       ` [Buildroot] " Yann E. MORIN
2021-01-07 15:27       ` Yann E. MORIN
2020-11-11 13:54 ` [PATCH 2/2] printk/console: Allow to disable console output by using console="" or console=null Petr Mladek
2020-11-11 22:52   ` Guenter Roeck
2020-11-11 23:59   ` Sergey Senozhatsky
2020-11-20 14:24 ` [PATCH 0/2] printk/console: Use ttynull when no console is available or wanted Petr Mladek

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