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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: pasic@linux.ibm.com, brijesh.singh@amd.com, pair@us.ibm.com,
	dgilbert@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, andi.kleen@intel.com,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>, Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>,
	frankja@linux.ibm.com, thuth@redhat.com,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com, richard.henderson@linaro.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel.apfelbaum@gmail.com>,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	david@redhat.com, Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	mst@redhat.com, qemu-s390x@nongnu.org,
	pragyansri.pathi@intel.com, jun.nakajima@intel.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 10/13] spapr: Add PEF based confidential guest support
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 09:56:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210112095612.GE1360503@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210112044508.427338-11-david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 03:45:05PM +1100, David Gibson wrote:
> Some upcoming POWER machines have a system called PEF (Protected
> Execution Facility) which uses a small ultravisor to allow guests to
> run in a way that they can't be eavesdropped by the hypervisor.  The
> effect is roughly similar to AMD SEV, although the mechanisms are
> quite different.
> 
> Most of the work of this is done between the guest, KVM and the
> ultravisor, with little need for involvement by qemu.  However qemu
> does need to tell KVM to allow secure VMs.
> 
> Because the availability of secure mode is a guest visible difference
> which depends on having the right hardware and firmware, we don't
> enable this by default.  In order to run a secure guest you need to
> create a "pef-guest" object and set the confidential-guest-support
> property to point to it.
> 
> Note that this just *allows* secure guests, the architecture of PEF is
> such that the guest still needs to talk to the ultravisor to enter
> secure mode.  Qemu has no directl way of knowing if the guest is in
> secure mode, and certainly can't know until well after machine
> creation time.
> 
> To start a PEF-capable guest, use the command line options:
>     -object pef-guest,id=pef0 -machine confidential-guest-support=pef0
> 
> Signed-off-by: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
> ---
>  docs/confidential-guest-support.txt |   2 +
>  docs/papr-pef.txt                   |  30 ++++++++
>  hw/ppc/meson.build                  |   1 +
>  hw/ppc/pef.c                        | 115 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  hw/ppc/spapr.c                      |  10 +++
>  include/hw/ppc/pef.h                |  26 +++++++
>  target/ppc/kvm.c                    |  18 -----
>  target/ppc/kvm_ppc.h                |   6 --
>  8 files changed, 184 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)
>  create mode 100644 docs/papr-pef.txt
>  create mode 100644 hw/ppc/pef.c
>  create mode 100644 include/hw/ppc/pef.h
> 

> +static const TypeInfo pef_guest_info = {
> +    .parent = TYPE_OBJECT,
> +    .name = TYPE_PEF_GUEST,
> +    .instance_size = sizeof(PefGuestState),
> +    .interfaces = (InterfaceInfo[]) {
> +        { TYPE_CONFIDENTIAL_GUEST_SUPPORT },
> +        { TYPE_USER_CREATABLE },
> +        { }
> +    }
> +};

IIUC, the earlier patch defines TYPE_CONFIDENTIAL_GUEST_SUPPORT
as a object, but you're using it as an interface here. The later
s390 patch uses it as a parent, which makes more sense given it
is a declared as an object.


Regards,
Daniel
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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
Cc: pair@us.ibm.com, Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	brijesh.singh@amd.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, david@redhat.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, frankja@linux.ibm.com,
	pragyansri.pathi@intel.com, mst@redhat.com,
	mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com, pasic@linux.ibm.com,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	andi.kleen@intel.com, thuth@redhat.com,
	Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	richard.henderson@linaro.org, dgilbert@redhat.com,
	Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, jun.nakajima@intel.com,
	Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 10/13] spapr: Add PEF based confidential guest support
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2021 09:56:12 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210112095612.GE1360503@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210112044508.427338-11-david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>

On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 03:45:05PM +1100, David Gibson wrote:
> Some upcoming POWER machines have a system called PEF (Protected
> Execution Facility) which uses a small ultravisor to allow guests to
> run in a way that they can't be eavesdropped by the hypervisor.  The
> effect is roughly similar to AMD SEV, although the mechanisms are
> quite different.
> 
> Most of the work of this is done between the guest, KVM and the
> ultravisor, with little need for involvement by qemu.  However qemu
> does need to tell KVM to allow secure VMs.
> 
> Because the availability of secure mode is a guest visible difference
> which depends on having the right hardware and firmware, we don't
> enable this by default.  In order to run a secure guest you need to
> create a "pef-guest" object and set the confidential-guest-support
> property to point to it.
> 
> Note that this just *allows* secure guests, the architecture of PEF is
> such that the guest still needs to talk to the ultravisor to enter
> secure mode.  Qemu has no directl way of knowing if the guest is in
> secure mode, and certainly can't know until well after machine
> creation time.
> 
> To start a PEF-capable guest, use the command line options:
>     -object pef-guest,id=pef0 -machine confidential-guest-support=pef0
> 
> Signed-off-by: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
> ---
>  docs/confidential-guest-support.txt |   2 +
>  docs/papr-pef.txt                   |  30 ++++++++
>  hw/ppc/meson.build                  |   1 +
>  hw/ppc/pef.c                        | 115 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  hw/ppc/spapr.c                      |  10 +++
>  include/hw/ppc/pef.h                |  26 +++++++
>  target/ppc/kvm.c                    |  18 -----
>  target/ppc/kvm_ppc.h                |   6 --
>  8 files changed, 184 insertions(+), 24 deletions(-)
>  create mode 100644 docs/papr-pef.txt
>  create mode 100644 hw/ppc/pef.c
>  create mode 100644 include/hw/ppc/pef.h
> 

> +static const TypeInfo pef_guest_info = {
> +    .parent = TYPE_OBJECT,
> +    .name = TYPE_PEF_GUEST,
> +    .instance_size = sizeof(PefGuestState),
> +    .interfaces = (InterfaceInfo[]) {
> +        { TYPE_CONFIDENTIAL_GUEST_SUPPORT },
> +        { TYPE_USER_CREATABLE },
> +        { }
> +    }
> +};

IIUC, the earlier patch defines TYPE_CONFIDENTIAL_GUEST_SUPPORT
as a object, but you're using it as an interface here. The later
s390 patch uses it as a parent, which makes more sense given it
is a declared as an object.


Regards,
Daniel
-- 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-12  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-12  4:44 [PATCH v6 00/13] Generalize memory encryption models David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:44 ` David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:44 ` [PATCH v6 01/13] qom: Allow optional sugar props David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:44   ` David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:44 ` [PATCH v6 02/13] confidential guest support: Introduce new confidential guest support class David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:44   ` David Gibson
2021-01-12  9:46   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-12  9:46     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-13  2:09     ` David Gibson
2021-01-13  2:09       ` David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:44 ` [PATCH v6 03/13] sev: Remove false abstraction of flash encryption David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:44   ` David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:44 ` [PATCH v6 04/13] confidential guest support: Move side effect out of machine_set_memory_encryption() David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:44   ` David Gibson
2021-01-12 10:39   ` Greg Kurz
2021-01-12  4:45 ` [PATCH v6 05/13] confidential guest support: Rework the "memory-encryption" property David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:45   ` David Gibson
2021-01-12 10:59   ` Greg Kurz
2021-01-13  0:50     ` David Gibson
2021-01-13  0:50       ` David Gibson
2021-01-13 12:03       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-01-13 12:03         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2021-01-12  4:45 ` [PATCH v6 06/13] sev: Add Error ** to sev_kvm_init() David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:45   ` David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:45 ` [PATCH v6 07/13] confidential guest support: Introduce cgs "ready" flag David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:45   ` David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:45 ` [PATCH v6 08/13] confidential guest support: Move SEV initialization into arch specific code David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:45   ` David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:45 ` [PATCH v6 09/13] confidential guest support: Update documentation David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:45   ` David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:45 ` [PATCH v6 10/13] spapr: Add PEF based confidential guest support David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:45   ` David Gibson
2021-01-12  7:56   ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-12  7:56     ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-12  8:36     ` David Gibson
2021-01-12  8:36       ` David Gibson
2021-01-12  9:52   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-12  9:52     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-12  9:56   ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2021-01-12  9:56     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-13  0:52     ` David Gibson
2021-01-13  0:52       ` David Gibson
2021-01-12 11:27   ` Greg Kurz
2021-01-13  0:56     ` David Gibson
2021-01-13  0:56       ` David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:45 ` [PATCH v6 11/13] spapr: PEF: prevent migration David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:45   ` David Gibson
2021-01-12 11:37   ` Greg Kurz
2021-01-12  4:45 ` [PATCH v6 12/13] confidential guest support: Alter virtio default properties for protected guests David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:45   ` David Gibson
2021-01-12 11:38   ` Greg Kurz
2021-01-12  4:45 ` [PATCH v6 13/13] s390: Recognize confidential-guest-support option David Gibson
2021-01-12  4:45   ` David Gibson
2021-01-12  8:15   ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-12  8:15     ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-12 11:36     ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-12 11:36       ` Cornelia Huck
2021-01-12 11:48       ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-12 11:48         ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-12 11:49       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-12 11:49         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-13  0:57       ` David Gibson
2021-01-13  0:57         ` David Gibson
2021-01-13  6:57         ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-13  6:57           ` Christian Borntraeger
2021-01-13 23:56           ` David Gibson
2021-01-13 23:56             ` David Gibson
2021-01-12  9:54   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2021-01-12  9:54     ` Daniel P. Berrangé

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