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From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Trilok Soni <tsoni@codeaurora.org>,
	arve@android.com, Andrew Walbran <qwandor@google.com>,
	David Hartley <dhh@qti.qualcomm.com>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Achin Gupta <Achin.Gupta@arm.com>,
	Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander@linaro.org>,
	Arunachalam Ganapathy <arunachalam.ganapathy@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/7] dt-bindings: Arm: Add Firmware Framework for Armv8-A (FF-A) binding
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 10:00:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210113100011.bnn75jogx22cgkk4@bogus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201216122408.2fhubdyqm2ofpgc3@bogus>

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 12:24:08PM +0000, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 04:01:07PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:11:31PM +0000, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> > > Since the FF-A v1.0 specification doesn't list the UUID of all the
> > > partitions in the discovery API, we need to specify the UUID of the
> > > partitions that need to be accessed by drivers within the kernel.
> > > 
> > > This binding to provide the list of partitions that kernel drivers
> > > may need to access.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
> > > ---
> > >  .../devicetree/bindings/arm/arm,ffa.yaml      | 58 +++++++++++++++++++
> > >  1 file changed, 58 insertions(+)
> > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arm,ffa.yaml
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arm,ffa.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arm,ffa.yaml
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 000000000000..a014a5801c34
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arm,ffa.yaml
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,58 @@
> > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > +---
> > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/arm/arm,ffa.yaml#
> > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > +
> > > +title: Arm Firmware Framework for Arm v8-A (in-kernel users)
> > > +
> > > +maintainers:
> > > +  - Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
> > > +
> > > +description: |
> > > +  Firmware frameworks implementing partition according to the FF-A
> > > +  specification defined by ARM document number ARM DEN 0077A ("Arm Firmware
> > > +  Framework for Arm v8-A") [0], providing services to be used by other
> > > +  partitions.
> > > +
> > > +  [0] https://developer.arm.com/docs/den0077/latest
> > > +
> > > +properties:
> > > +  $nodename:
> > > +    const: ffa
> > > +
> > > +  compatible:
> > > +    oneOf:
> > > +      - const: arm,ffa-1.0
> > > +
> > > +patternProperties:
> > > +  "^ffa_partition[0-9]+$":
> > > +    type: object
> > > +    description: One or more child nodes, each describing an FFA partition.
> > > +    properties:
> > > +      $nodename:
> > > +        const: ffa_partition
> > > +
> > > +      compatible:
> > > +        oneOf:
> > > +          - const: arm,ffa-1.0-partition
> > > +
> > > +      uuid:
> > > +        $ref: '/schemas/types.yaml#definitions/string'
> > > +        description: |
> > > +          The 128-bit UUID [2] of the service implemented by this partition.
> > > +
> > > +          [2] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4122
> > 
> > UUIDs are actually a known thing in json-schema with 'format: uuid'. 
> > The meta-schema will probably reject that, so we'll need to add support 
> > to dtschema. Maybe it should be a new definition to reference.
> >
> 
> Ah OK, I will try that and ask for help if I am stuck as I am still trying
> to learn these, not there yet 😄 
> 
> > > +
> > > +additionalProperties: false
> > > +
> > > +examples:
> > > +  - |
> > > +    ffa {
> > > +      compatible = "arm,ffa-1.0";
> > > +
> > > +      ffa_partition0 {
> > > +        compatible = "arm,ffa-1.0-partition";
> > > +        uuid = "12345678-9abc-def0-1234-56789abcdef0";
> > > +      };
> > > +    };
> >
> > This could all be simplified down to just a single property:
> >
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion, I would love this to force spec authors to
> stop relying on DT and add whatever needed in future to the spec as part
> of discovery APIs.
> 
> > arm,ffa-partitions = "12345678-9abc-def0-1234-56789abcdef0", 
> > 	"12345678-9abc-def0-1234-56789abcdef1"
> > 	"12345678-9abc-def0-1234-56789abcdef2";
> >
> > Obviously, that's not extensible, but do we need it to be?
> >
> 
> I prefer if we don't, but I will run this through spec authors so that
> they are aware of what we will do in DT which means they *have* to
> incorporate any future needs into the spec discovery apis.
> 

OK we found some usecase which may require separate nodes. I am sure they
could be alternative solution even with above style of array of UUID strings.

If you remember use of SMC/HVC as SCMI transport[1], it just provides one
way(a2p) communication. P2A is not possible with that, i.e platform
notifications to OSPM is not possible. FFA aims to replace native SMC/HVC
transport there to provide bi-directional support. For such usecase,
where one partition running SCMI server might provide multiple channels
for SCMI communication and we may need to provide the link using phandle
or something in DT.

Let me know your thoughts on those.

--
Regards,
Sudeep

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20201222145603.40192-2-jim2101024@gmail.com

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From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
To: Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>
Cc: Trilok Soni <tsoni@codeaurora.org>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, David Hartley <dhh@qti.qualcomm.com>,
	Andrew Walbran <qwandor@google.com>,
	Achin Gupta <Achin.Gupta@arm.com>,
	arve@android.com, Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Arunachalam Ganapathy <arunachalam.ganapathy@arm.com>,
	Jens Wiklander <jens.wiklander@linaro.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/7] dt-bindings: Arm: Add Firmware Framework for Armv8-A (FF-A) binding
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2021 10:00:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210113100011.bnn75jogx22cgkk4@bogus> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201216122408.2fhubdyqm2ofpgc3@bogus>

On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 12:24:08PM +0000, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 04:01:07PM -0600, Rob Herring wrote:
> > On Fri, Dec 04, 2020 at 12:11:31PM +0000, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> > > Since the FF-A v1.0 specification doesn't list the UUID of all the
> > > partitions in the discovery API, we need to specify the UUID of the
> > > partitions that need to be accessed by drivers within the kernel.
> > > 
> > > This binding to provide the list of partitions that kernel drivers
> > > may need to access.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
> > > ---
> > >  .../devicetree/bindings/arm/arm,ffa.yaml      | 58 +++++++++++++++++++
> > >  1 file changed, 58 insertions(+)
> > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arm,ffa.yaml
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arm,ffa.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arm,ffa.yaml
> > > new file mode 100644
> > > index 000000000000..a014a5801c34
> > > --- /dev/null
> > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/arm,ffa.yaml
> > > @@ -0,0 +1,58 @@
> > > +# SPDX-License-Identifier: (GPL-2.0-only OR BSD-2-Clause)
> > > +%YAML 1.2
> > > +---
> > > +$id: http://devicetree.org/schemas/arm/arm,ffa.yaml#
> > > +$schema: http://devicetree.org/meta-schemas/core.yaml#
> > > +
> > > +title: Arm Firmware Framework for Arm v8-A (in-kernel users)
> > > +
> > > +maintainers:
> > > +  - Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
> > > +
> > > +description: |
> > > +  Firmware frameworks implementing partition according to the FF-A
> > > +  specification defined by ARM document number ARM DEN 0077A ("Arm Firmware
> > > +  Framework for Arm v8-A") [0], providing services to be used by other
> > > +  partitions.
> > > +
> > > +  [0] https://developer.arm.com/docs/den0077/latest
> > > +
> > > +properties:
> > > +  $nodename:
> > > +    const: ffa
> > > +
> > > +  compatible:
> > > +    oneOf:
> > > +      - const: arm,ffa-1.0
> > > +
> > > +patternProperties:
> > > +  "^ffa_partition[0-9]+$":
> > > +    type: object
> > > +    description: One or more child nodes, each describing an FFA partition.
> > > +    properties:
> > > +      $nodename:
> > > +        const: ffa_partition
> > > +
> > > +      compatible:
> > > +        oneOf:
> > > +          - const: arm,ffa-1.0-partition
> > > +
> > > +      uuid:
> > > +        $ref: '/schemas/types.yaml#definitions/string'
> > > +        description: |
> > > +          The 128-bit UUID [2] of the service implemented by this partition.
> > > +
> > > +          [2] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4122
> > 
> > UUIDs are actually a known thing in json-schema with 'format: uuid'. 
> > The meta-schema will probably reject that, so we'll need to add support 
> > to dtschema. Maybe it should be a new definition to reference.
> >
> 
> Ah OK, I will try that and ask for help if I am stuck as I am still trying
> to learn these, not there yet 😄 
> 
> > > +
> > > +additionalProperties: false
> > > +
> > > +examples:
> > > +  - |
> > > +    ffa {
> > > +      compatible = "arm,ffa-1.0";
> > > +
> > > +      ffa_partition0 {
> > > +        compatible = "arm,ffa-1.0-partition";
> > > +        uuid = "12345678-9abc-def0-1234-56789abcdef0";
> > > +      };
> > > +    };
> >
> > This could all be simplified down to just a single property:
> >
> 
> Thanks for the suggestion, I would love this to force spec authors to
> stop relying on DT and add whatever needed in future to the spec as part
> of discovery APIs.
> 
> > arm,ffa-partitions = "12345678-9abc-def0-1234-56789abcdef0", 
> > 	"12345678-9abc-def0-1234-56789abcdef1"
> > 	"12345678-9abc-def0-1234-56789abcdef2";
> >
> > Obviously, that's not extensible, but do we need it to be?
> >
> 
> I prefer if we don't, but I will run this through spec authors so that
> they are aware of what we will do in DT which means they *have* to
> incorporate any future needs into the spec discovery apis.
> 

OK we found some usecase which may require separate nodes. I am sure they
could be alternative solution even with above style of array of UUID strings.

If you remember use of SMC/HVC as SCMI transport[1], it just provides one
way(a2p) communication. P2A is not possible with that, i.e platform
notifications to OSPM is not possible. FFA aims to replace native SMC/HVC
transport there to provide bi-directional support. For such usecase,
where one partition running SCMI server might provide multiple channels
for SCMI communication and we may need to provide the link using phandle
or something in DT.

Let me know your thoughts on those.

--
Regards,
Sudeep

[1] https://lore.kernel.org/r/20201222145603.40192-2-jim2101024@gmail.com

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-01-13 10:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-04 12:11 [PATCH v3 0/7] firmware: Add initial support for Arm FF-A Sudeep Holla
2020-12-04 12:11 ` Sudeep Holla
2020-12-04 12:11 ` [PATCH v3 1/7] dt-bindings: Arm: Add Firmware Framework for Armv8-A (FF-A) binding Sudeep Holla
2020-12-04 12:11   ` Sudeep Holla
2020-12-14 22:01   ` Rob Herring
2020-12-14 22:01     ` Rob Herring
2020-12-16 12:24     ` Sudeep Holla
2020-12-16 12:24       ` Sudeep Holla
2020-12-16 13:46       ` Jens Wiklander
2020-12-16 13:46         ` Jens Wiklander
2021-01-13 10:00       ` Sudeep Holla [this message]
2021-01-13 10:00         ` Sudeep Holla
2020-12-04 12:11 ` [PATCH v3 2/7] arm64: smccc: Add support for SMCCCv1.2 input/output registers Sudeep Holla
2020-12-04 12:11   ` Sudeep Holla
2020-12-04 12:11 ` [PATCH v3 3/7] firmware: arm_ffa: Add initial FFA bus support for device enumeration Sudeep Holla
2020-12-04 12:11   ` Sudeep Holla
2020-12-04 12:11 ` [PATCH v3 4/7] firmware: arm_ffa: Add initial Arm FFA driver support Sudeep Holla
2020-12-04 12:11   ` Sudeep Holla
2020-12-04 12:11 ` [PATCH v3 5/7] firmware: arm_ffa: Add support for SMCCC as transport to FFA driver Sudeep Holla
2020-12-04 12:11   ` Sudeep Holla
2020-12-04 12:11 ` [PATCH v3 6/7] firmware: arm_ffa: Setup in-kernel users of FFA partitions Sudeep Holla
2020-12-04 12:11   ` Sudeep Holla
2020-12-07 12:30   ` Jens Wiklander
2020-12-07 12:30     ` Jens Wiklander
2021-01-13  9:22     ` Sudeep Holla
2021-01-13  9:22       ` Sudeep Holla
2020-12-11 10:45   ` Jens Wiklander
2020-12-11 10:45     ` Jens Wiklander
2020-12-11 10:59     ` Jens Wiklander
2020-12-11 10:59       ` Jens Wiklander
2021-01-13  9:44       ` Sudeep Holla
2021-01-13  9:44         ` Sudeep Holla
2021-01-13 12:30         ` Jens Wiklander
2021-01-13 12:30           ` Jens Wiklander
2021-01-13 13:58           ` Achin Gupta
2021-01-13 13:58             ` Achin Gupta
2021-01-13 17:20             ` Sudeep Holla
2021-01-13 17:20               ` Sudeep Holla
2021-01-14  6:48               ` Jens Wiklander
2021-01-14  6:48                 ` Jens Wiklander
2021-01-12 18:04     ` Sudeep Holla
2021-01-12 18:04       ` Sudeep Holla
2021-01-13  7:10       ` Jens Wiklander
2021-01-13  7:10         ` Jens Wiklander
2020-12-04 12:11 ` [PATCH v3 7/7] firmware: arm_ffa: Add support for MEM_* interfaces Sudeep Holla
2020-12-04 12:11   ` Sudeep Holla
2020-12-11 10:54   ` Jens Wiklander
2020-12-11 10:54     ` Jens Wiklander

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