[mlmmj] server requirements Was: distribution "dead upstream" discussion

[mlmmj] server requirements Was: distribution "dead upstream" discussion

[Geert Stappers]

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 11:40:18PM +0100, Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> Am 21.01.21 um 22:59 schrieb Geert Stappers:
> 
> > My thoughts about this:
> > 
> > * Discuss this further
> > * Scrape/Mirror/Copy the website   (to prevent making a new design)
> > * Transfer the domain name to community thrust
> > * Have somewhere webserver that can serve static webpages
> > * Update DNS to point to that webserver
> > * Update website
> > ** mlmmj is mature
> > ** https://gitlab.com/mlmmj/mlmmj
> > * Have somewhere server that can do mlmmj
> > * Transfer this mailinglist to that server
> > * Accept that mlmmj is mature software
> > Last, but not least
> > * Make contributing to this mature software possible
> 
> Hello, do you have any idea how much traffic the website and mailinglist
> generate per month?

Expect "low",  an amount of traffic that easily fits
on a low cost VPS.   ("low cost VPS"  a virtual private server that comes
for the price of half a cinema ticket, something fairly easy to pay.)

I'm willing to chip in to prevent any form of advertisment.


 
> Alles Gute

Dankjewel, dat het ook goed met jou mag gaan.



That was Dutch from me, and German from Christof.
It says that it is very very high likely that both of them
are in the european money zone. Meaning easy money transfer
to share the cost of a VPS.

 
> Christof Thalhofer


Regards
Geert Stappers
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Re: [mlmmj] server requirements Was: distribution "dead upstream" discussion

[Christof Thalhofer]

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Am 22.01.21 um 07:53 schrieb Geert Stappers:

> Expect "low",  an amount of traffic that easily fits
> on a low cost VPS.   ("low cost VPS"  a virtual private server that comes
> for the price of half a cinema ticket, something fairly easy to pay.)
> 
> I'm willing to chip in to prevent any form of advertisment.

Ok thank you, i will have to talk to some people, maybe we can find a
solution. More later.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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Re: [mlmmj] server requirements Was: distribution "dead upstream" discussion

[jf-mlmmj]

On 2021-01-22 at 10:10+0100 Christof Thalhofer wrote:
> Am 22.01.21 um 07:53 schrieb Geert Stappers:
> 
> > Expect "low",  an amount of traffic that easily fits
> > on a low cost VPS.   ("low cost VPS"  a virtual private server that comes
> > for the price of half a cinema ticket, something fairly easy to pay.)
> > 
> > I'm willing to chip in to prevent any form of advertisment.
> 
> Ok thank you, i will have to talk to some people, maybe we can find a
> solution. More later.

Hi. I manage a server that hosts (among others) the valgrind.org
website. Our ISP is generally helpful about reducing fees for
hosting for community projects, so if your people can’t help I
can ask mine.

I’d also like to know if this email gets to the mailing list,
because I’ve posted a couple of times about having written a
patch to do from address munging (to get round DMARC etc), but
had no response, quite possibly because this mailing list
suffers from that problem.

regards

  — Jón

Re: [mlmmj] server requirements Was: distribution "dead upstream" discussion

[Christof Thalhofer]

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Am 22.01.21 um 11:20 schrieb jf-mlmmj@bookofsand.co.uk:

> I’d also like to know if this email gets to the mailing list,
> because I’ve posted a couple of times about having written a
> patch to do from address munging (to get round DMARC etc), but
> had no response, quite possibly because this mailing list
> suffers from that problem.

Yes, i got it via the mailinglist and also a duplicate via CC.

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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Re: [mlmmj] server requirements Was: distribution "dead upstream" discussion

[Chris Knadle]

jf-mlmmj@bookofsand.co.uk:
> On 2021-01-22 at 10:10+0100 Christof Thalhofer wrote:
>> Am 22.01.21 um 07:53 schrieb Geert Stappers:
>>
>>> Expect "low",  an amount of traffic that easily fits
>>> on a low cost VPS.   ("low cost VPS"  a virtual private server that comes
>>> for the price of half a cinema ticket, something fairly easy to pay.)
>>>
>>> I'm willing to chip in to prevent any form of advertisment.
>>
>> Ok thank you, i will have to talk to some people, maybe we can find a
>> solution. More later.
> 
> Hi. I manage a server that hosts (among others) the valgrind.org
> website. Our ISP is generally helpful about reducing fees for
> hosting for community projects, so if your people can’t help I
> can ask mine.

Making an inquiry into that sounds fitting.
Thanks.

> I’d also like to know if this email gets to the mailing list,
> because I’ve posted a couple of times about having written a
> patch to do from address munging (to get round DMARC etc), but
> had no response, quite possibly because this mailing list
> suffers from that problem.

Your mail made it to the mailing list -- note that (just in case you aren't 
aware) the MLMMJ mailing list web archives haven't worked since Dec 2017.

   -- Chris

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Re: [mlmmj] server requirements Was: distribution "dead upstream" discussion

[Christof Thalhofer]

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Am 22.01.21 um 07:53 schrieb Geert Stappers:

>> Hello, do you have any idea how much traffic the website and mailinglist
>> generate per month?
> 
> Expect "low",  an amount of traffic that easily fits
> on a low cost VPS.   ("low cost VPS"  a virtual private server that comes
> for the price of half a cinema ticket, something fairly easy to pay.)
> 
> I'm willing to chip in to prevent any form of advertisment.

Yes, we are in the same money zone. :-)

I'm a member of a German cooperative called Hostsharing, its an Open
Source Hoster which runs its machines on Debian. I asked the people, we
can donate some webspace and Traffic for the Mlmmj community.

The machines here are managed and run (between others) Mlmmj and Apache
on Debian (currently) Buster, so I think it would be no problem to host
the website and also this very small mailinglist.

This would be enough:
https://www.hostsharing.net/angebote/managed-webspace/

I am (as well as the people at Hostsharing) personally interested in the
continuation of the Mlmmj community, because I want to use Mlmmj as a
successor for the dying Mailman 2.

So Geert, now you have two offers to choose between. :-)

Alles Gute

Christof Thalhofer

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