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From: Ionela Voinescu <ionela.voinescu@arm.com>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: Rafael Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 1/2] topology: Allow multiple entities to provide sched_freq_tick() callback
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 11:30:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210217113011.GA22176@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210217042558.o4anjdkayzgqny55@vireshk-i7>

Hi,

Replying this first as it's going to be relevant below:

> Just out of curiosity, what exactly did you test and what was the setup ? :)

I tested it on:

 - Juno R0 (CPUs [0, 3-5] are littles, CPUs [1-2] are bigs)
   + PMUs faking AMUs
   + userspace/schedutil +
   + cpufreq-FIE/!cpufreq-FIE
   + DT

This testing did not yet cover patch 2/2.

My checklist shows:
 - system invariance status correct - passed
 - scale factor correct (userspace cpufreq governor) - passed
 - arch_set_freq_scale bypassed - passed
 - partial "AMUs" support - failed (see below)
 - EAS enabling - passed

I don't have an automated process for this as many test cases involve
kernel source changes. In time I will automate all of these and
possibly cover all scenarios with FVP (fast models) testing, but for
now human error is possible :).

On Wednesday 17 Feb 2021 at 09:55:58 (+0530), Viresh Kumar wrote:
> On 17-02-21, 00:24, Ionela Voinescu wrote:
> > I think it could be merged in patch 1/2 as it's part of enabling the use
> > of multiple sources of information for FIE. Up to you!
> 
> Sure.
> 
> > >  static void amu_fie_setup(const struct cpumask *cpus)
> > >  {
> > > -	bool invariant;
> > >  	int cpu;
> > >  
> > >  	/* We are already set since the last insmod of cpufreq driver */
> > > @@ -257,25 +256,10 @@ static void amu_fie_setup(const struct cpumask *cpus)
> > >  
> > >  	cpumask_or(amu_fie_cpus, amu_fie_cpus, cpus);
> > >  
> > > -	invariant = topology_scale_freq_invariant();
> > > -
> > > -	/* We aren't fully invariant yet */
> > > -	if (!invariant && !cpumask_equal(amu_fie_cpus, cpu_present_mask))
> > > -		return;
> > > -
> > 
> > You still need these checks, otherwise you could end up with only part
> > of the CPUs setting a scale factor, when only part of the CPUs support
> > AMUs and there is no cpufreq support for FIE.
> 
> Both supports_scale_freq_counters() and topology_scale_freq_invariant() take
> care of this now and they will keep reporting the system as invariant until the
> time all the CPUs have counters (in absence of cpufreq).
> 

Correct!

> The topology_set_scale_freq_source() API is supposed to be called multiple
> times, probably once for each policy and so I don't see a need of these checks
> anymore.
> 

The problem is not topology_scale_freq_invariant() but whether a scale
factor is set for some CPUs.

Scenario (test system above):
 - "AMUs" are only supported for [1-2],
 - cpufreq_supports_freq_invariance() -> false

What should happen:
 - topology_scale_freq_invariant() -> false (passed)
 - all CPUs should have their freq_scale unmodified (1024) - (failed)
   because only 2 out of 6 CPUs have a method of setting a scale factor

What does happen:
 - arch_set_freq_tick() -> topology_set_freq_tick() will set a scale
   factor for [1-2] based on AMUs. This should not happen. We will end
   up with invariant signals for bigs and signals that are not freq
   invariant for littles.

Ionela.

> > Small(ish) optimisation at the beginning of this function:
> > 
> >     if (cpumask_empty(&scale_freq_counters_mask))
> >         scale_freq_invariant = topology_scale_freq_invariant();
> > 
> > This will save you a call to rebuild_sched_domains_energy(), which is
> > quite expensive, when cpufreq supports FIE and we also have counters.
> 
> Good Point.
>  
> > After comments addressed,
> > 
> > Reviewed-by: Ionela Voinescu <ionela.voinescu@arm.com>
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> > Tested-by: Ionela Voinescu <ionela.voinescu@arm.com>
> 
> 

> -- 
> viresh

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Ionela Voinescu <ionela.voinescu@arm.com>
To: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
Cc: Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Rafael Wysocki <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 1/2] topology: Allow multiple entities to provide sched_freq_tick() callback
Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2021 11:30:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210217113011.GA22176@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210217042558.o4anjdkayzgqny55@vireshk-i7>

Hi,

Replying this first as it's going to be relevant below:

> Just out of curiosity, what exactly did you test and what was the setup ? :)

I tested it on:

 - Juno R0 (CPUs [0, 3-5] are littles, CPUs [1-2] are bigs)
   + PMUs faking AMUs
   + userspace/schedutil +
   + cpufreq-FIE/!cpufreq-FIE
   + DT

This testing did not yet cover patch 2/2.

My checklist shows:
 - system invariance status correct - passed
 - scale factor correct (userspace cpufreq governor) - passed
 - arch_set_freq_scale bypassed - passed
 - partial "AMUs" support - failed (see below)
 - EAS enabling - passed

I don't have an automated process for this as many test cases involve
kernel source changes. In time I will automate all of these and
possibly cover all scenarios with FVP (fast models) testing, but for
now human error is possible :).

On Wednesday 17 Feb 2021 at 09:55:58 (+0530), Viresh Kumar wrote:
> On 17-02-21, 00:24, Ionela Voinescu wrote:
> > I think it could be merged in patch 1/2 as it's part of enabling the use
> > of multiple sources of information for FIE. Up to you!
> 
> Sure.
> 
> > >  static void amu_fie_setup(const struct cpumask *cpus)
> > >  {
> > > -	bool invariant;
> > >  	int cpu;
> > >  
> > >  	/* We are already set since the last insmod of cpufreq driver */
> > > @@ -257,25 +256,10 @@ static void amu_fie_setup(const struct cpumask *cpus)
> > >  
> > >  	cpumask_or(amu_fie_cpus, amu_fie_cpus, cpus);
> > >  
> > > -	invariant = topology_scale_freq_invariant();
> > > -
> > > -	/* We aren't fully invariant yet */
> > > -	if (!invariant && !cpumask_equal(amu_fie_cpus, cpu_present_mask))
> > > -		return;
> > > -
> > 
> > You still need these checks, otherwise you could end up with only part
> > of the CPUs setting a scale factor, when only part of the CPUs support
> > AMUs and there is no cpufreq support for FIE.
> 
> Both supports_scale_freq_counters() and topology_scale_freq_invariant() take
> care of this now and they will keep reporting the system as invariant until the
> time all the CPUs have counters (in absence of cpufreq).
> 

Correct!

> The topology_set_scale_freq_source() API is supposed to be called multiple
> times, probably once for each policy and so I don't see a need of these checks
> anymore.
> 

The problem is not topology_scale_freq_invariant() but whether a scale
factor is set for some CPUs.

Scenario (test system above):
 - "AMUs" are only supported for [1-2],
 - cpufreq_supports_freq_invariance() -> false

What should happen:
 - topology_scale_freq_invariant() -> false (passed)
 - all CPUs should have their freq_scale unmodified (1024) - (failed)
   because only 2 out of 6 CPUs have a method of setting a scale factor

What does happen:
 - arch_set_freq_tick() -> topology_set_freq_tick() will set a scale
   factor for [1-2] based on AMUs. This should not happen. We will end
   up with invariant signals for bigs and signals that are not freq
   invariant for littles.

Ionela.

> > Small(ish) optimisation at the beginning of this function:
> > 
> >     if (cpumask_empty(&scale_freq_counters_mask))
> >         scale_freq_invariant = topology_scale_freq_invariant();
> > 
> > This will save you a call to rebuild_sched_domains_energy(), which is
> > quite expensive, when cpufreq supports FIE and we also have counters.
> 
> Good Point.
>  
> > After comments addressed,
> > 
> > Reviewed-by: Ionela Voinescu <ionela.voinescu@arm.com>
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> > Tested-by: Ionela Voinescu <ionela.voinescu@arm.com>
> 
> 

> -- 
> viresh

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-02-17 11:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-01-28 10:48 [PATCH V3 0/2] cpufreq: cppc: Add support for frequency invariance Viresh Kumar
2021-01-28 10:48 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-01-28 10:48 ` [PATCH V3 1/2] topology: Allow multiple entities to provide sched_freq_tick() callback Viresh Kumar
2021-01-28 10:48   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-03 11:45   ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-03 11:45     ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-05  9:14     ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-05  9:14       ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-17  0:24       ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-17  0:24         ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-17  4:25         ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-17  4:25           ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-17 11:30           ` Ionela Voinescu [this message]
2021-02-17 11:30             ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-17 11:40             ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-17 11:40               ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-17 11:57               ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-17 11:57                 ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-18  7:23                 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-18  7:23                   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-18  9:33         ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-18  9:33           ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-18 16:36           ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-18 16:36             ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-19  4:58             ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-19  4:58               ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-19  9:44               ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-19  9:44                 ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-19  9:48                 ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-19  9:48                   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-01-28 10:48 ` [PATCH V3 2/2] cpufreq: cppc: Add support for frequency invariance Viresh Kumar
2021-01-28 10:48   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-18 16:35   ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-18 16:35     ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-22 11:00     ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-22 11:00       ` Ionela Voinescu
2021-02-22 11:04       ` Viresh Kumar
2021-02-22 11:04         ` Viresh Kumar

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