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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Liu Yi L <yi.l.liu@intel.com>, <alex.williamson@redhat.com>,
	<eric.auger@redhat.com>, <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>,
	<joro@8bytes.org>, <kevin.tian@intel.com>, <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	<jun.j.tian@intel.com>, <yi.y.sun@intel.com>,
	<jean-philippe@linaro.org>, <peterx@redhat.com>,
	<jasowang@redhat.com>, <hao.wu@intel.com>, <stefanha@gmail.com>,
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>, <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	<Lingshan.Zhu@intel.com>, <vivek.gautam@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [Patch v8 04/10] vfio/type1: Support binding guest page tables to PASID
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 15:45:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210303194523.GX4247@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210303114212.1cd86579@jacob-builder>

On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 11:42:12AM -0800, Jacob Pan wrote:
> Hi Jason,
> 
> On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 13:15:51 -0400, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 09:13:19AM -0800, Jacob Pan wrote:
> > > Hi Jason,
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 08:56:28 -0400, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> > > wrote: 
> > > > On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 04:35:39AM +0800, Liu Yi L wrote:  
> > > > >  
> > > > > +static int vfio_dev_bind_gpasid_fn(struct device *dev, void *data)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	struct domain_capsule *dc = (struct domain_capsule *)data;
> > > > > +	unsigned long arg = *(unsigned long *)dc->data;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	return iommu_uapi_sva_bind_gpasid(dc->domain, dev,
> > > > > +					  (void __user *)arg);    
> > > > 
> > > > This arg buisness is really tortured. The type should be set at the
> > > > ioctl, not constantly passed down as unsigned long or worse void *.
> > > > 
> > > > And why is this passing a __user pointer deep into an iommu_* API??
> > > >   
> > > The idea was that IOMMU UAPI (not API) is independent of VFIO or other
> > > user driver frameworks. The design is documented here:
> > > Documentation/userspace-api/iommu.rst
> > > IOMMU UAPI handles the type and sanitation of user provided data.  
> > 
> > Why? If it is uapi it has defined types and those types should be
> > completely clear from the C code, not obfuscated.
> > 
> From the user's p.o.v., it is plain c code nothing obfuscated. As for
> kernel handling of the data types, it has to be answered by the bigger
> question of how we deal with sharing IOMMU among multiple subsystems with
> UAPIs.
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As I said, don't obfuscate types like this in the kernel. It is not
good style.

> However, IOMMU is a system device which has little value to be exposed to
> the userspace. Not to mention the device-IOMMU affinity/topology. VFIO
> nicely abstracts IOMMU from the userspace, why do we want to reverse that?

The other patch was talking about a /dev/ioasid - why can't this stuff
be run over that?

Jason

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
To: Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: jean-philippe@linaro.org, kevin.tian@intel.com,
	ashok.raj@intel.com, kvm@vger.kernel.org, vivek.gautam@arm.com,
	jasowang@redhat.com, stefanha@gmail.com, yi.y.sun@intel.com,
	alex.williamson@redhat.com, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Lingshan.Zhu@intel.com, hao.wu@intel.com, jun.j.tian@intel.com
Subject: Re: [Patch v8 04/10] vfio/type1: Support binding guest page tables to PASID
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 15:45:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210303194523.GX4247@nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210303114212.1cd86579@jacob-builder>

On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 11:42:12AM -0800, Jacob Pan wrote:
> Hi Jason,
> 
> On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 13:15:51 -0400, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Mar 02, 2021 at 09:13:19AM -0800, Jacob Pan wrote:
> > > Hi Jason,
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2 Mar 2021 08:56:28 -0400, Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>
> > > wrote: 
> > > > On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 04:35:39AM +0800, Liu Yi L wrote:  
> > > > >  
> > > > > +static int vfio_dev_bind_gpasid_fn(struct device *dev, void *data)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	struct domain_capsule *dc = (struct domain_capsule *)data;
> > > > > +	unsigned long arg = *(unsigned long *)dc->data;
> > > > > +
> > > > > +	return iommu_uapi_sva_bind_gpasid(dc->domain, dev,
> > > > > +					  (void __user *)arg);    
> > > > 
> > > > This arg buisness is really tortured. The type should be set at the
> > > > ioctl, not constantly passed down as unsigned long or worse void *.
> > > > 
> > > > And why is this passing a __user pointer deep into an iommu_* API??
> > > >   
> > > The idea was that IOMMU UAPI (not API) is independent of VFIO or other
> > > user driver frameworks. The design is documented here:
> > > Documentation/userspace-api/iommu.rst
> > > IOMMU UAPI handles the type and sanitation of user provided data.  
> > 
> > Why? If it is uapi it has defined types and those types should be
> > completely clear from the C code, not obfuscated.
> > 
> From the user's p.o.v., it is plain c code nothing obfuscated. As for
> kernel handling of the data types, it has to be answered by the bigger
> question of how we deal with sharing IOMMU among multiple subsystems with
> UAPIs.
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As I said, don't obfuscate types like this in the kernel. It is not
good style.

> However, IOMMU is a system device which has little value to be exposed to
> the userspace. Not to mention the device-IOMMU affinity/topology. VFIO
> nicely abstracts IOMMU from the userspace, why do we want to reverse that?

The other patch was talking about a /dev/ioasid - why can't this stuff
be run over that?

Jason
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-03-04  0:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-02 20:35 [Patch v8 00/10] vfio: expose virtual Shared Virtual Addressing to VMs Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35 ` Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35 ` [Patch v8 01/10] iommu: Report domain nesting info Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35   ` Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35 ` [Patch v8 02/10] iommu/smmu: Report empty " Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35   ` Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35 ` [Patch v8 03/10] vfio/type1: Report iommu nesting info to userspace Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35   ` Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 12:52   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-02 12:52     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-03  9:53     ` Liu, Yi L
2021-03-03  9:53       ` Liu, Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35 ` [Patch v8 04/10] vfio/type1: Support binding guest page tables to PASID Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35   ` Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 12:56   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-02 12:56     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-02 17:13     ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-02 17:13       ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-02 17:15       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-02 17:15         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-03 19:42         ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-03 19:42           ` Jacob Pan
2021-03-03 19:45           ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2021-03-03 19:45             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-04  7:20             ` Liu, Yi L
2021-03-04  7:20               ` Liu, Yi L
2021-03-04 12:52               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-04 12:52                 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2021-03-02 20:35 ` [Patch v8 05/10] vfio/type1: Allow invalidating first-level/stage IOMMU cache Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35   ` Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35 ` [Patch v8 06/10] iommu: Pass domain to sva_unbind_gpasid() Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35   ` Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35 ` [Patch v8 07/10] vfio/type1: Add vSVA support for IOMMU-backed mdevs Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35   ` Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35 ` [Patch v8 08/10] vfio/pci: Expose PCIe PASID capability to userspace Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35   ` Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35 ` [Patch v8 09/10] vfio: Document dual stage control Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35   ` Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35 ` [Patch v8 10/10] iommu/vt-d: Support reporting nesting capability info Liu Yi L
2021-03-02 20:35   ` Liu Yi L

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