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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	"Anshuman Khandual" <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, "Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"James Morse" <james.morse@arm.com>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 1/2] arm64/mm: Fix pfn_valid() for ZONE_DEVICE based memory
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 21:24:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210303212406.GB20055@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210303190428.GB24035@arm.com>

On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 07:04:33PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 01:35:56PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > On 11.02.21 13:10, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> > > On 2/11/21 5:23 PM, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > ... and dropped. These patches appear to be responsible for a boot
> > > > regression reported by CKI:
> > > 
> > > Ahh, boot regression ? These patches only change the behaviour
> > > for non boot memory only.
> > > 
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/r/cki.8D1CB60FEC.K6NJMEFQPV@redhat.com
> > > 
> > > Will look into the logs and see if there is something pointing to
> > > the problem.
> > 
> > It's strange. One thing I can imagine is a mis-detection of early sections.
> > However, I don't see that happening:
> > 
> > In sparse_init_nid(), we:
> > 1. Initialize the memmap
> > 2. Set SECTION_IS_EARLY | SECTION_HAS_MEM_MAP via
> >    sparse_init_one_section()
> > 
> > Only hotplugged sections (DIMMs, dax/kmem) set SECTION_HAS_MEM_MAP without
> > SECTION_IS_EARLY - which is correct, because these are not early.
> > 
> > So once we know that we have valid_section() -- SECTION_HAS_MEM_MAP is set
> > -- early_section() should be correct.
> > 
> > Even if someone would be doing a pfn_valid() after
> > memblocks_present()->memory_present() but before
> > sparse_init_nid(), we should be fine (!valid_section() -> return 0).
> 
> I couldn't figure out how this could fail with Anshuman's patches.
> Will's suspicion is that some invalid/null pointer gets dereferenced
> before being initialised but the only case I see is somewhere in
> pfn_section_valid() (ms->usage) if valid_section() && !early_section().
> 
> Assuming that we do get a valid_section(ms) && !early_section(ms), is
> there a case where ms->usage is not initialised? I guess races with
> section_deactivate() are not possible this early.
> 
> Another situation could be that pfn_valid() returns true when no memory
> is mapped for that pfn.

The case I wondered about was __pfn_to_section() with a bogus pfn, since
with patch 2/2 we call that *before* checking that pfn_to_section_nr() is
sane.

Will

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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>
Cc: "David Hildenbrand" <david@redhat.com>,
	"Anshuman Khandual" <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Mike Rapoport" <rppt@linux.ibm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, "Jérôme Glisse" <jglisse@redhat.com>,
	"James Morse" <james.morse@arm.com>,
	"Dan Williams" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"Ard Biesheuvel" <ardb@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2 1/2] arm64/mm: Fix pfn_valid() for ZONE_DEVICE based memory
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2021 21:24:07 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210303212406.GB20055@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210303190428.GB24035@arm.com>

On Wed, Mar 03, 2021 at 07:04:33PM +0000, Catalin Marinas wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 01:35:56PM +0100, David Hildenbrand wrote:
> > On 11.02.21 13:10, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> > > On 2/11/21 5:23 PM, Will Deacon wrote:
> > > > ... and dropped. These patches appear to be responsible for a boot
> > > > regression reported by CKI:
> > > 
> > > Ahh, boot regression ? These patches only change the behaviour
> > > for non boot memory only.
> > > 
> > > > https://lore.kernel.org/r/cki.8D1CB60FEC.K6NJMEFQPV@redhat.com
> > > 
> > > Will look into the logs and see if there is something pointing to
> > > the problem.
> > 
> > It's strange. One thing I can imagine is a mis-detection of early sections.
> > However, I don't see that happening:
> > 
> > In sparse_init_nid(), we:
> > 1. Initialize the memmap
> > 2. Set SECTION_IS_EARLY | SECTION_HAS_MEM_MAP via
> >    sparse_init_one_section()
> > 
> > Only hotplugged sections (DIMMs, dax/kmem) set SECTION_HAS_MEM_MAP without
> > SECTION_IS_EARLY - which is correct, because these are not early.
> > 
> > So once we know that we have valid_section() -- SECTION_HAS_MEM_MAP is set
> > -- early_section() should be correct.
> > 
> > Even if someone would be doing a pfn_valid() after
> > memblocks_present()->memory_present() but before
> > sparse_init_nid(), we should be fine (!valid_section() -> return 0).
> 
> I couldn't figure out how this could fail with Anshuman's patches.
> Will's suspicion is that some invalid/null pointer gets dereferenced
> before being initialised but the only case I see is somewhere in
> pfn_section_valid() (ms->usage) if valid_section() && !early_section().
> 
> Assuming that we do get a valid_section(ms) && !early_section(ms), is
> there a case where ms->usage is not initialised? I guess races with
> section_deactivate() are not possible this early.
> 
> Another situation could be that pfn_valid() returns true when no memory
> is mapped for that pfn.

The case I wondered about was __pfn_to_section() with a bogus pfn, since
with patch 2/2 we call that *before* checking that pfn_to_section_nr() is
sane.

Will

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-03-04  0:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-02-02  4:11 [PATCH V2 0/2] arm64/mm: Fix pfn_valid() for ZONE_DEVICE based memory Anshuman Khandual
2021-02-02  4:11 ` Anshuman Khandual
2021-02-02  4:11 ` [PATCH V2 1/2] " Anshuman Khandual
2021-02-02  4:11   ` Anshuman Khandual
2021-02-02 12:32   ` Will Deacon
2021-02-02 12:32     ` Will Deacon
2021-02-02 12:35     ` Will Deacon
2021-02-02 12:35       ` Will Deacon
2021-02-02 12:39       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-02 12:39         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-02 12:51         ` Will Deacon
2021-02-02 12:51           ` Will Deacon
2021-02-02 12:56           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-02 12:56             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-03  3:50             ` Anshuman Khandual
2021-02-03  3:50               ` Anshuman Khandual
2021-02-05 18:55               ` Will Deacon
2021-02-05 18:55                 ` Will Deacon
2021-02-11 11:53                 ` Will Deacon
2021-02-11 11:53                   ` Will Deacon
2021-02-11 12:10                   ` Anshuman Khandual
2021-02-11 12:10                     ` Anshuman Khandual
2021-02-11 12:21                     ` Will Deacon
2021-02-11 12:21                       ` Will Deacon
2021-02-11 12:35                     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-11 12:35                       ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-03 19:04                       ` Catalin Marinas
2021-03-03 19:04                         ` Catalin Marinas
2021-03-03 19:24                         ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-03 19:24                           ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-03 21:24                         ` Will Deacon [this message]
2021-03-03 21:24                           ` Will Deacon
2021-03-04  3:31                           ` Anshuman Khandual
2021-03-04  3:31                             ` Anshuman Khandual
2021-03-04  8:12                             ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-04  8:12                               ` David Hildenbrand
2021-03-04  9:36                               ` Will Deacon
2021-03-04  9:36                                 ` Will Deacon
2021-03-05  4:22                                 ` Anshuman Khandual
2021-03-05  4:22                                   ` Anshuman Khandual
2021-02-02  4:11 ` [PATCH V2 2/2] arm64/mm: Reorganize pfn_valid() Anshuman Khandual
2021-02-02  4:11   ` Anshuman Khandual
2021-02-02  8:26   ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-02  8:26     ` David Hildenbrand
2021-02-05 18:52 ` [PATCH V2 0/2] arm64/mm: Fix pfn_valid() for ZONE_DEVICE based memory Will Deacon
2021-02-05 18:52   ` Will Deacon

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