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From: Alexey Gladkov <gladkov.alexey@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>, Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>,
	0day robot <lkp@intel.com>,
	Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>, Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	lkp@lists.01.org, kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
	"Eric W . Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	zhengjun.xing@intel.com, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: 08ed4efad6: stress-ng.sigsegv.ops_per_sec -41.9% regression
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 18:44:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210408164426.o5cfvv3ixowsto62@example.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wigPx+MMQMQ-7EA0pq5_5+kMCNV4qFsOss-WwdCSQmb-w@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 09:22:40AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 1:32 AM kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > FYI, we noticed a -41.9% regression of stress-ng.sigsegv.ops_per_sec due to commit
> > 08ed4efad684 ("[PATCH v10 6/9] Reimplement RLIMIT_SIGPENDING on top of ucounts")
> 
> Ouch.
> 
> I *think* this test may be testing "send so many signals that it
> triggers the signal queue overflow case".
> 
> And I *think* that the performance degradation may be due to lots of
> unnecessary allocations, because ity looks like that commit changes
> __sigqueue_alloc() to do
> 
>         struct sigqueue *q = kmem_cache_alloc(sigqueue_cachep, flags);
> 
> *before* checking the signal limit, and then if the signal limit was
> exceeded, it will just be free'd instead.
> 
> The old code would check the signal count against RLIMIT_SIGPENDING
> *first*, and if there were m ore pending signals then it wouldn't do
> anything at all (including not incrementing that expensive atomic
> count).
> 
> Also, the old code was very careful to only do the "get_user()" for
> the *first* signal it added to the queue, and do the "put_user()" for
> when removing the last signal. Exactly because those atomics are very
> expensive.
> 
> The new code just does a lot of these atomics unconditionally.

Yes and right now I'm trying to rewrite this patch.

> I dunno. The profile data in there is a bit hard to read, but there's
> a lot more cachee misses, and a *lot* of node crossers:
> 
> >    5961544          +190.4%   17314361        perf-stat.i.cache-misses
> >   22107466          +119.2%   48457656        perf-stat.i.cache-references
> >     163292 ą  3%   +4582.0%    7645410        perf-stat.i.node-load-misses
> >     227388 ą  2%   +3708.8%    8660824        perf-stat.i.node-loads
> 
> and (probably as a result) average instruction costs have gone up enormously:
> 
> >       3.47           +66.8%       5.79        perf-stat.overall.cpi
> >      22849           -65.6%       7866        perf-stat.overall.cycles-between-cache-misses
> 
> and it does seem to be at least partly about "put_ucounts()":
> 
> >       0.00            +4.5        4.46        perf-profile.calltrace.cycles-pp.put_ucounts.__sigqueue_free.get_signal.arch_do_signal_or_restart.exit_to_user_mode_prepare
> 
> and a lot of "get_ucounts()".
> 
> But it may also be that the new "get sigpending" is just *so* much
> more expensive than it used to be.

Thanks for decrypting this! I spent some time to understand this report
and still wasn't sure I understood it.

-- 
Rgrds, legion

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From: Alexey Gladkov <gladkov.alexey@gmail.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
	0day robot <lkp@intel.com>, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lkp@lists.01.org, "Huang, Ying" <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>,
	zhengjun.xing@intel.com,
	Kernel Hardening <kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	Linux Containers <containers@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christian Brauner <christian.brauner@ubuntu.com>,
	"Eric W . Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Jann Horn <jannh@google.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: 08ed4efad6: stress-ng.sigsegv.ops_per_sec -41.9% regression
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 18:44:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210408164426.o5cfvv3ixowsto62@example.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wigPx+MMQMQ-7EA0pq5_5+kMCNV4qFsOss-WwdCSQmb-w@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 09:22:40AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 1:32 AM kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > FYI, we noticed a -41.9% regression of stress-ng.sigsegv.ops_per_sec due to commit
> > 08ed4efad684 ("[PATCH v10 6/9] Reimplement RLIMIT_SIGPENDING on top of ucounts")
> 
> Ouch.
> 
> I *think* this test may be testing "send so many signals that it
> triggers the signal queue overflow case".
> 
> And I *think* that the performance degradation may be due to lots of
> unnecessary allocations, because ity looks like that commit changes
> __sigqueue_alloc() to do
> 
>         struct sigqueue *q = kmem_cache_alloc(sigqueue_cachep, flags);
> 
> *before* checking the signal limit, and then if the signal limit was
> exceeded, it will just be free'd instead.
> 
> The old code would check the signal count against RLIMIT_SIGPENDING
> *first*, and if there were m ore pending signals then it wouldn't do
> anything at all (including not incrementing that expensive atomic
> count).
> 
> Also, the old code was very careful to only do the "get_user()" for
> the *first* signal it added to the queue, and do the "put_user()" for
> when removing the last signal. Exactly because those atomics are very
> expensive.
> 
> The new code just does a lot of these atomics unconditionally.

Yes and right now I'm trying to rewrite this patch.

> I dunno. The profile data in there is a bit hard to read, but there's
> a lot more cachee misses, and a *lot* of node crossers:
> 
> >    5961544          +190.4%   17314361        perf-stat.i.cache-misses
> >   22107466          +119.2%   48457656        perf-stat.i.cache-references
> >     163292 ą  3%   +4582.0%    7645410        perf-stat.i.node-load-misses
> >     227388 ą  2%   +3708.8%    8660824        perf-stat.i.node-loads
> 
> and (probably as a result) average instruction costs have gone up enormously:
> 
> >       3.47           +66.8%       5.79        perf-stat.overall.cpi
> >      22849           -65.6%       7866        perf-stat.overall.cycles-between-cache-misses
> 
> and it does seem to be at least partly about "put_ucounts()":
> 
> >       0.00            +4.5        4.46        perf-profile.calltrace.cycles-pp.put_ucounts.__sigqueue_free.get_signal.arch_do_signal_or_restart.exit_to_user_mode_prepare
> 
> and a lot of "get_ucounts()".
> 
> But it may also be that the new "get sigpending" is just *so* much
> more expensive than it used to be.

Thanks for decrypting this! I spent some time to understand this report
and still wasn't sure I understood it.

-- 
Rgrds, legion


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From: Alexey Gladkov <gladkov.alexey@gmail.com>
To: lkp@lists.01.org
Subject: Re: 08ed4efad6: stress-ng.sigsegv.ops_per_sec -41.9% regression
Date: Thu, 08 Apr 2021 18:44:26 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210408164426.o5cfvv3ixowsto62@example.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHk-=wigPx+MMQMQ-7EA0pq5_5+kMCNV4qFsOss-WwdCSQmb-w@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 09:22:40AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2021 at 1:32 AM kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com> wrote:
> >
> > FYI, we noticed a -41.9% regression of stress-ng.sigsegv.ops_per_sec due to commit
> > 08ed4efad684 ("[PATCH v10 6/9] Reimplement RLIMIT_SIGPENDING on top of ucounts")
> 
> Ouch.
> 
> I *think* this test may be testing "send so many signals that it
> triggers the signal queue overflow case".
> 
> And I *think* that the performance degradation may be due to lots of
> unnecessary allocations, because ity looks like that commit changes
> __sigqueue_alloc() to do
> 
>         struct sigqueue *q = kmem_cache_alloc(sigqueue_cachep, flags);
> 
> *before* checking the signal limit, and then if the signal limit was
> exceeded, it will just be free'd instead.
> 
> The old code would check the signal count against RLIMIT_SIGPENDING
> *first*, and if there were m ore pending signals then it wouldn't do
> anything at all (including not incrementing that expensive atomic
> count).
> 
> Also, the old code was very careful to only do the "get_user()" for
> the *first* signal it added to the queue, and do the "put_user()" for
> when removing the last signal. Exactly because those atomics are very
> expensive.
> 
> The new code just does a lot of these atomics unconditionally.

Yes and right now I'm trying to rewrite this patch.

> I dunno. The profile data in there is a bit hard to read, but there's
> a lot more cachee misses, and a *lot* of node crossers:
> 
> >    5961544          +190.4%   17314361        perf-stat.i.cache-misses
> >   22107466          +119.2%   48457656        perf-stat.i.cache-references
> >     163292 ą  3%   +4582.0%    7645410        perf-stat.i.node-load-misses
> >     227388 ą  2%   +3708.8%    8660824        perf-stat.i.node-loads
> 
> and (probably as a result) average instruction costs have gone up enormously:
> 
> >       3.47           +66.8%       5.79        perf-stat.overall.cpi
> >      22849           -65.6%       7866        perf-stat.overall.cycles-between-cache-misses
> 
> and it does seem to be at least partly about "put_ucounts()":
> 
> >       0.00            +4.5        4.46        perf-profile.calltrace.cycles-pp.put_ucounts.__sigqueue_free.get_signal.arch_do_signal_or_restart.exit_to_user_mode_prepare
> 
> and a lot of "get_ucounts()".
> 
> But it may also be that the new "get sigpending" is just *so* much
> more expensive than it used to be.

Thanks for decrypting this! I spent some time to understand this report
and still wasn't sure I understood it.

-- 
Rgrds, legion

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-08 16:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-07 17:08 [PATCH v10 0/9] Count rlimits in each user namespace Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 17:08 ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 17:08 ` [PATCH v10 1/9] Increase size of ucounts to atomic_long_t Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 17:08   ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 17:08 ` [PATCH v10 2/9] Add a reference to ucounts for each cred Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 17:08   ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 17:08 ` [PATCH v10 3/9] Use atomic_t for ucounts reference counting Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 17:08   ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 17:08 ` [PATCH v10 4/9] Reimplement RLIMIT_NPROC on top of ucounts Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 17:08   ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 17:08 ` [PATCH v10 5/9] Reimplement RLIMIT_MSGQUEUE " Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 17:08   ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 17:08 ` [PATCH v10 6/9] Reimplement RLIMIT_SIGPENDING " Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 17:08   ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-08  8:30   ` 08ed4efad6: stress-ng.sigsegv.ops_per_sec -41.9% regression kernel test robot
2021-04-08  8:30     ` kernel test robot
2021-04-08  8:30     ` kernel test robot
2021-04-08 16:22     ` Linus Torvalds
2021-04-08 16:22       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-04-08 16:22       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-04-08 16:22       ` Linus Torvalds
2021-04-08 16:44       ` Alexey Gladkov [this message]
2021-04-08 16:44         ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-08 16:44         ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-08 18:44       ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-08 18:44         ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-08 18:44         ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-08 18:44         ` Eric W. Biederman
2021-04-16 11:33         ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-16 11:33           ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-16 11:33           ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-23  2:47         ` Oliver Sang
2021-04-23  2:47           ` Oliver Sang
2021-04-23  2:47           ` Oliver Sang
2021-04-23  7:44           ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-23  7:44             ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-23  7:44             ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-28 14:36             ` Oliver Sang
2021-04-28 14:36               ` Oliver Sang
2021-04-28 14:36               ` Oliver Sang
2021-04-28 15:09               ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-28 15:09                 ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-28 15:09                 ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-05-07  7:14                 ` Oliver Sang
2021-05-07  7:14                   ` Oliver Sang
2021-04-07 17:08 ` [PATCH v10 7/9] Reimplement RLIMIT_MEMLOCK on top of ucounts Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 17:08   ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 21:37   ` kernel test robot
2021-04-07 21:37     ` kernel test robot
2021-04-07 21:37     ` kernel test robot
2021-04-07 17:08 ` [PATCH v10 8/9] kselftests: Add test to check for rlimit changes in different user namespaces Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 17:08   ` Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 17:08 ` [PATCH v10 9/9] ucounts: Set ucount_max to the largest positive value the type can hold Alexey Gladkov
2021-04-07 17:08   ` Alexey Gladkov

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