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From: Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>
To: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>
Cc: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	ALSA development <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	Pierre-louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] ALSA: core - add more card sysfs entries
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2021 18:47:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210408174713.GS4516@sirena.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9ab048b1-09a9-f6c9-da84-bc6371e1720d@perex.cz>

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On Thu, Apr 08, 2021 at 07:20:39PM +0200, Jaroslav Kysela wrote:
> Dne 08. 04. 21 v 18:22 Mark Brown napsal(a):

> > So if the information provided through the driver is too generic then we
> > should ideally be fixing those drivers/systems to do something sensible.
> > For the DT systems the generic cards have properties that let the system
> > just specify names directly so it will just be a case of setting them
> > properly and it should just be the x86 systems that are a problem.  ACPI
> > is a bit of a lost cause here, most of the systems aren't interested in
> > supporting Linux in the first place and the idioms there aren't great,
> > but for DT it's reasonably tractable to push back on people if there's
> > issues and it's much more scalable to do that than telling individual
> > users to do that.

> DT works only partially. Also, you need the DT compiler to change something,
> it's easier to overwrite things in the booted system. The user experience is
> lower with DT.

TBH I think the ship sailed on user experience no matter what we do here :)
In any case no disagreement that it's useful to have some way to do this
at runtime for systems where it's not possible to update the firmware
for whatever reason.

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-08 17:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-08  9:43 [PATCH] ALSA: core - add more card sysfs entries Jaroslav Kysela
2021-04-08 10:38 ` Takashi Sakamoto
2021-04-08 11:05   ` Takashi Iwai
2021-04-08 11:21     ` Jaroslav Kysela
2021-04-08 12:05       ` Mark Brown
2021-04-08 13:18         ` Takashi Iwai
2021-04-08 14:12           ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2021-04-08 14:47             ` Mark Brown
2021-04-08 15:04               ` Jaroslav Kysela
2021-04-08 15:11                 ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2021-04-08 15:01           ` Jaroslav Kysela
2021-04-08 15:32             ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2021-04-08 16:53               ` Jaroslav Kysela
2021-04-08 18:51                 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2021-04-08 19:25                   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2021-04-08 19:41                     ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2021-04-08 19:56                       ` Curtis Malainey
2021-04-08 20:01                       ` Jaroslav Kysela
2021-04-09 16:43                         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2021-04-09  7:39                   ` Takashi Iwai
2021-04-09  8:34                     ` Jaroslav Kysela
2021-04-09  8:55                       ` Takashi Iwai
2021-04-09  9:09                       ` Amadeusz Sławiński
2021-04-09 13:54                         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2021-04-09 15:55                         ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2021-04-09 16:38                           ` Takashi Iwai
2021-04-09 18:55                             ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2021-04-09 16:39                           ` Mark Brown
2021-04-08 16:22             ` Mark Brown
2021-04-08 16:50               ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2021-04-08 18:20                 ` Mark Brown
2021-04-08 17:20               ` Jaroslav Kysela
2021-04-08 17:47                 ` Mark Brown [this message]
2021-04-08 11:25   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2021-04-10 19:11 ` Jaroslav Kysela

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