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From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@kernel.org>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	john.stultz@linaro.org, sboyd@kernel.org, corbet@lwn.net,
	Mark.Rutland@arm.com, maz@kernel.org, kernel-team@fb.com,
	neeraju@codeaurora.org, feng.tang@intel.com,
	zhengjun.xing@intel.com, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v10 clocksource 1/7] clocksource: Provide module parameters to inject delays in watchdog
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2021 21:07:36 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210426040736.GS1401198@tassilo.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210425224709.1312655-1-paulmck@kernel.org>

> occur between the reads of the two clocks.  Yes, interrupts are disabled
> across those two reads, but there are no shortage of things that can
> delay interrupts-disabled regions of code ranging from SMI handlers to
> vCPU preemption.  It would be good to have some indication as to why

I assume vCPU preemption here refers to preempt RT? I didn't think
a standard kernel could preempt when interrupt are disabled.

>  
> +	clocksource.inject_delay_period= [KNL]
> +			Number of calls to clocksource_watchdog() before
> +			delays are injected between reads from the
> +			two clocksources.  Values of zero disable this
> +			delay injection.  These delays can cause clocks
> +			to be marked unstable, so use of this parameter
> +			should therefore be avoided on production systems.
> +			Defaults to zero (disabled).
> +
> +	clocksource.inject_delay_repeat= [KNL]
> +			Number of repeated clocksource_watchdog() delay
> +			injections per period.	If inject_delay_period
> +			is five and inject_delay_repeat is three, there
> +			will be five delay-free reads followed by three
> +			delayed reads.

I'm not sure command line options are the right way to do this.
How about integrating it with the fault injection framework in debugfs.

This way syzkaller etc. can play with it, which long term would
give much better test coverage.

This wouldn't allow boot time coverage, but presumably that's not
too important here.

-Andi


  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-26  4:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-25 22:45 [PATCH v10 clocksource 0/7] Do not mark clocks unstable due to delays for v5.13 Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 1/7] clocksource: Provide module parameters to inject delays in watchdog Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26  4:07   ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2021-04-26  7:13     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-26 15:28     ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26 16:00       ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-26 16:14         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26 17:56           ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-26 18:24             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28  4:49               ` Luming Yu
2021-04-28 13:57                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28 14:24                   ` Luming Yu
2021-04-28 14:37                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 2/7] clocksource: Retry clock read if long delays detected Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27  1:44   ` Feng Tang
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 3/7] clocksource: Check per-CPU clock synchronization when marked unstable Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26  4:12   ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-26  7:16     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 4/7] clocksource: Provide a module parameter to fuzz per-CPU clock checking Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 5/7] clocksource: Limit number of CPUs checked for clock synchronization Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 6/7] clocksource: Forgive tsc_early pre-calibration drift Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26 15:01   ` Feng Tang
2021-04-26 15:25     ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26 15:36       ` Feng Tang
2021-04-26 18:26         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27  1:13           ` Feng Tang
2021-04-27  3:46             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27  4:16               ` Feng Tang
2021-04-26 15:28     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27 21:03     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27  7:27   ` [clocksource] 8c30ace35d: WARNING:at_kernel/time/clocksource.c:#clocksource_watchdog kernel test robot
2021-04-27  7:27     ` kernel test robot
2021-04-27  8:45     ` Feng Tang
2021-04-27  8:45       ` Feng Tang
2021-04-27 13:37       ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27 13:37         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27 17:50         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27 17:50           ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27 21:09           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27 21:09             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28  1:48             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28  1:48               ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28 10:14               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28 10:14                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28 18:31                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28 18:31                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28 13:34             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28 13:34               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28 15:39               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-28 15:39                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-28 17:00                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28 17:00                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-29  7:38                   ` Feng Tang
2021-04-29  7:38                     ` Feng Tang
2021-04-28 18:31               ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28 18:31                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-29  8:27                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-29  8:27                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-29 14:26                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-29 14:26                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-29 17:30                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-29 17:30                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-29 23:04                       ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-29 23:04                         ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-30  0:24                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-30  0:24                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-30  0:59                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-30  0:59                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-30  5:08                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-30  5:08                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v9 clocksource 6/6] clocksource: Reduce WATCHDOG_THRESHOLD Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 7/7] " Paul E. McKenney

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