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From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
To: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: paulmck@kernel.org, Feng Tang <feng.tang@intel.com>,
	kernel test robot <oliver.sang@intel.com>,
	0day robot <lkp@intel.com>, John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>,
	Xing Zhengjun <zhengjun.xing@linux.intel.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	lkp@lists.01.org, kernel-team@fb.com, neeraju@codeaurora.org,
	zhengjun.xing@intel.com, x86@kernel.org,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [clocksource]  8c30ace35d: WARNING:at_kernel/time/clocksource.c:#clocksource_watchdog
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:04:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210429230411.GK4032392@tassilo.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lf91f177.ffs@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

> > The idea is to leave the watchdog code in kernel/time/clocksource.c,
> > but to move the fault injection into kernel/time/clocksourcefault.c or
> > some such.  In this new file, new clocksource structures are created that
> > use some existing timebase/clocksource under the covers.  These then
> > inject delays based on module parameters (one senstive to CPU number,
> > the other unconditional).  They register these clocksources using the
> > normal interfaces, and verify that they are eventually marked unstable
> > when the fault-injection parameters warrant it.  This is combined with
> > the usual checking of the console log.
> >
> > Or am I missing your point?
> 
> That's what I meant.

I still think all this stuff should be in the fault injection framework,
like other fault injections, to have a consistent discoverable interface. 

I actually checked now and the standard fault injection supports boot arguments,
so needing it at boot time shouldn't be a barrier.

-Andi

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From: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
To: lkp@lists.01.org
Subject: Re: [clocksource] 8c30ace35d: WARNING:at_kernel/time/clocksource.c:#clocksource_watchdog
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2021 16:04:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210429230411.GK4032392@tassilo.jf.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lf91f177.ffs@nanos.tec.linutronix.de>

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> > The idea is to leave the watchdog code in kernel/time/clocksource.c,
> > but to move the fault injection into kernel/time/clocksourcefault.c or
> > some such.  In this new file, new clocksource structures are created that
> > use some existing timebase/clocksource under the covers.  These then
> > inject delays based on module parameters (one senstive to CPU number,
> > the other unconditional).  They register these clocksources using the
> > normal interfaces, and verify that they are eventually marked unstable
> > when the fault-injection parameters warrant it.  This is combined with
> > the usual checking of the console log.
> >
> > Or am I missing your point?
> 
> That's what I meant.

I still think all this stuff should be in the fault injection framework,
like other fault injections, to have a consistent discoverable interface. 

I actually checked now and the standard fault injection supports boot arguments,
so needing it at boot time shouldn't be a barrier.

-Andi

  reply	other threads:[~2021-04-29 23:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-04-25 22:45 [PATCH v10 clocksource 0/7] Do not mark clocks unstable due to delays for v5.13 Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 1/7] clocksource: Provide module parameters to inject delays in watchdog Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26  4:07   ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-26  7:13     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-26 15:28     ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26 16:00       ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-26 16:14         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26 17:56           ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-26 18:24             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28  4:49               ` Luming Yu
2021-04-28 13:57                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28 14:24                   ` Luming Yu
2021-04-28 14:37                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 2/7] clocksource: Retry clock read if long delays detected Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27  1:44   ` Feng Tang
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 3/7] clocksource: Check per-CPU clock synchronization when marked unstable Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26  4:12   ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-26  7:16     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 4/7] clocksource: Provide a module parameter to fuzz per-CPU clock checking Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 5/7] clocksource: Limit number of CPUs checked for clock synchronization Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 6/7] clocksource: Forgive tsc_early pre-calibration drift Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26 15:01   ` Feng Tang
2021-04-26 15:25     ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-26 15:36       ` Feng Tang
2021-04-26 18:26         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27  1:13           ` Feng Tang
2021-04-27  3:46             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27  4:16               ` Feng Tang
2021-04-26 15:28     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27 21:03     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27  7:27   ` [clocksource] 8c30ace35d: WARNING:at_kernel/time/clocksource.c:#clocksource_watchdog kernel test robot
2021-04-27  7:27     ` kernel test robot
2021-04-27  8:45     ` Feng Tang
2021-04-27  8:45       ` Feng Tang
2021-04-27 13:37       ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27 13:37         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27 17:50         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27 17:50           ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-27 21:09           ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-27 21:09             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28  1:48             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28  1:48               ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28 10:14               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28 10:14                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28 18:31                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28 18:31                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28 13:34             ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28 13:34               ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28 15:39               ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-28 15:39                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2021-04-28 17:00                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-28 17:00                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-29  7:38                   ` Feng Tang
2021-04-29  7:38                     ` Feng Tang
2021-04-28 18:31               ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-28 18:31                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-29  8:27                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-29  8:27                   ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-29 14:26                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-29 14:26                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-29 17:30                     ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-29 17:30                       ` Thomas Gleixner
2021-04-29 23:04                       ` Andi Kleen [this message]
2021-04-29 23:04                         ` Andi Kleen
2021-04-30  0:24                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-30  0:24                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-30  0:59                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-30  0:59                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-30  5:08                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-30  5:08                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v9 clocksource 6/6] clocksource: Reduce WATCHDOG_THRESHOLD Paul E. McKenney
2021-04-25 22:47 ` [PATCH v10 clocksource 7/7] " Paul E. McKenney

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