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From: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>
To: Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@collabora.com>
Cc: Linux Doc Mailing List <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Daniel W. S. Almeida" <dwlsalmeida@gmail.com>,
	"Jonathan Corbet" <corbet@lwn.net>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Robert Richter <rric@kernel.org>,
	Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@leemhuis.info>,
	Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
	keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-edac@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 06/53] docs: admin-guide: avoid using UTF-8 chars
Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 10:44:16 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210512104416.265a477b@coco.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878s4m301i.fsf@collabora.com>

Em Mon, 10 May 2021 14:40:09 -0400
Gabriel Krisman Bertazi <krisman@collabora.com> escreveu:

> Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org> writes:
> 
> > While UTF-8 characters can be used at the Linux documentation,
> > the best is to use them only when ASCII doesn't offer a good replacement.
> > So, replace the occurences of the following UTF-8 characters:
> >
> > 	- U+00a0 (' '): NO-BREAK SPACE
> > 	- U+2013 ('–'): EN DASH
> > 	- U+2014 ('—'): EM DASH
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab+huawei@kernel.org>
> > ---
> >  Documentation/admin-guide/index.rst           |  2 +-
> >  Documentation/admin-guide/module-signing.rst  |  4 +-
> >  Documentation/admin-guide/ras.rst             | 94 +++++++++----------
> >  .../admin-guide/reporting-issues.rst          | 12 +--
> >  4 files changed, 56 insertions(+), 56 deletions(-)  
> 
> Hi Mauro,
> 
> This patch misses one occurrence of U+2014 in
> Documentation/admin-guide/sysctl/kernel.rst:1288.

It ended to be on a separate patch.

> There are also countless occurrences in Documentation/, outside of
> Documentation/admin-guide.  I suppose another patch in the series, which
> I didn't receive, will fix them?

Yes. This series should fix all occurrences inside Documentation/ on
*.rst files and on ABI, except for Documentation/translations[1].

[1] Still it probably makes sense to do a subset of the changes
from this series there, but touching non-Latin translations are riskier.

> These characters will just reappear elsewhere, eventually. I'm not sure
> what is the gain here, other than minor consistence improvements.

The main point here is that a large amount of those UTF-8 characters
appeared as result of document conversion from DocBook/LaTeX/Markdown.

As the conversion ended, I don't expect the need of re-doing a series
like that in the near future.

There are even some cases where the UTF-8 were doing wrong things, like
using an EN DASH instead of an hyphen in order to pass a command line
parameter, and the addition of non-printable BOM characters.

So, IMO, this is a necessarily cleanup after the conversion.

> But we
> should add a Warning during documentation generation (if there isn't one
> already), to prevent them from spreading again.

Not sure if it is worth... See: people can (and should) use UTF-8
characters when needed, like for instance using Latin accented 
characters on names and translations, and use Greek letters when
pertinent, like using MICRO SIGN or GREEK SMALL LETTER MU to
represent microsseconds.

On the other hand, using curly commas instead of ASCII ones and
dashes instead of -- and --- only makes harder for people to type
documents with normal editors without any gain, as Sphinx already
convert those into curly commas and EN/EM DASH when it generates 
html/pdf docs.


Thanks,
Mauro

  reply	other threads:[~2021-05-12  8:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 219+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-10 10:26 [PATCH 00/53] Get rid of UTF-8 chars that can be mapped as ASCII Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [Intel-gfx] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [f2fs-dev] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 01/53] docs: cdrom-standard.rst: get rid of uneeded UTF-8 chars Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 02/53] docs: ABI: remove a meaningless UTF-8 character Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 03/53] docs: ABI: remove some spurious characters Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 04/53] docs: index.rst: avoid using UTF-8 chars Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 05/53] docs: hwmon: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 13:30   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 06/53] docs: admin-guide: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 18:40   ` Gabriel Krisman Bertazi
2021-05-12  8:44     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab [this message]
2021-05-12  9:25       ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-12 10:22         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 07/53] docs: admin-guide: media: ipu3.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 08/53] docs: admin-guide: sysctl: kernel.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 09/53] docs: admin-guide: perf: imx-ddr.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 10/53] docs: admin-guide: pm: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 11/53] docs: trace: coresight: coresight-etm4x-reference.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 19:28   ` Mathieu Poirier
2021-05-10 19:28     ` Mathieu Poirier
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 12/53] docs: driver-api: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
     [not found]   ` <CAHp75Vegsb-+fVppv3C7Jp0a=mEGAh2pchX=Cr5ZvOMFt+G73Q@mail.gmail.com>
2021-05-12  8:49     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 13/53] docs: driver-api: fpga: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 17:48   ` Moritz Fischer
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 14/53] docs: driver-api: iio: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 15/53] docs: driver-api: thermal: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 16/53] docs: driver-api: media: drivers: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 17/53] docs: driver-api: firmware: other_interfaces.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 18/53] docs: driver-api: nvdimm: btt.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 19/53] docs: fault-injection: nvme-fault-injection.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 20/53] docs: usb: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 21/53] docs: process: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 22/53] docs: block: data-integrity.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 23/53] docs: userspace-api: media: fdl-appendix.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 24/53] docs: userspace-api: media: v4l: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 25/53] docs: userspace-api: media: dvb: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 26/53] docs: vm: zswap.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 27/53] docs: filesystems: f2fs.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26   ` [f2fs-dev] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  3:16   ` Chao Yu
2021-05-11  3:16     ` Chao Yu
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 28/53] docs: filesystems: ext4: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 19:23   ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 29/53] docs: kernel-hacking: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 30/53] docs: hid: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 31/53] docs: security: tpm: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 32/53] docs: security: keys: trusted-encrypted.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 33/53] docs: riscv: vm-layout.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 34/53] docs: networking: scaling.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 35/53] docs: networking: devlink: devlink-dpipe.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 36/53] docs: networking: device_drivers: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 37/53] docs: x86: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 38/53] docs: scheduler: sched-deadline.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 39/53] docs: dev-tools: testing-overview.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:48   ` Marco Elver
2021-05-12  8:52     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 23:35   ` David Gow
2021-05-12  8:14     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-12  8:29     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 40/53] docs: power: powercap: powercap.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 41/53] docs: ABI: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 13:53   ` Guenter Roeck
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 42/53] docs: doc-guide: contributing.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 43/53] docs: PCI: acpi-info.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:37   ` Krzysztof Wilczyński
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 44/53] docs: gpu: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26   ` [Intel-gfx] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 11:16   ` Jani Nikula
2021-05-10 11:16     ` [Intel-gfx] " Jani Nikula
2021-05-10 11:16     ` Jani Nikula
2021-05-10 12:36   ` Liviu Dudau
2021-05-10 12:36     ` [Intel-gfx] " Liviu Dudau
2021-05-10 12:36     ` Liviu Dudau
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 45/53] docs: sound: kernel-api: writing-an-alsa-driver.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 46/53] docs: arm64: arm-acpi.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:26 ` [PATCH 47/53] docs: infiniband: tag_matching.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:27 ` [PATCH 48/53] docs: timers: no_hz.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:27 ` [PATCH 49/53] docs: misc-devices: ibmvmc.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:27 ` [PATCH 50/53] docs: firmware-guide: acpi: lpit.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:27 ` [PATCH 51/53] docs: firmware-guide: acpi: dsd: graph.rst: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:27 ` [PATCH 52/53] docs: virt: kvm: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:27 ` [PATCH 53/53] docs: RCU: " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  0:05   ` Paul E. McKenney
2021-05-10 10:52 ` [PATCH 00/53] Get rid of UTF-8 chars that can be mapped as ASCII Thorsten Leemhuis
2021-05-10 10:52   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Thorsten Leemhuis
2021-05-10 10:52   ` [Intel-gfx] " Thorsten Leemhuis
2021-05-10 10:52   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2021-05-10 10:52   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2021-05-10 10:52   ` [f2fs-dev] " Thorsten Leemhuis
2021-05-10 10:52   ` Thorsten Leemhuis
2021-05-10 11:19   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 11:19     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 11:19     ` [Intel-gfx] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 11:19     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 11:19     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 11:19     ` [f2fs-dev] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 11:19     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 12:27     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 12:27       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 12:27       ` [Intel-gfx] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 12:27       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 12:27       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 12:27       ` [f2fs-dev] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 12:27       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 10:54 ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-10 10:54   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " David Woodhouse
2021-05-10 10:54   ` [Intel-gfx] " David Woodhouse
2021-05-10 10:54   ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-10 10:54   ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-10 10:54   ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-10 11:55   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 11:55     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 11:55     ` [Intel-gfx] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 11:55     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 11:55     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 11:55     ` [f2fs-dev] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 11:55     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 12:29     ` [f2fs-dev] " beroal
2021-05-10 13:16     ` Edward Cree
2021-05-10 13:16       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Edward Cree
2021-05-10 13:16       ` [Intel-gfx] " Edward Cree
2021-05-10 13:16       ` Edward Cree
2021-05-10 13:16       ` Edward Cree
2021-05-10 13:16       ` [f2fs-dev] " Edward Cree
2021-05-10 13:16       ` Edward Cree
2021-05-10 13:38       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 13:38         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 13:38         ` [Intel-gfx] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 13:38         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 13:38         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 13:38         ` [f2fs-dev] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 13:38         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 13:58         ` Edward Cree
2021-05-10 13:58           ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Edward Cree
2021-05-10 13:58           ` [Intel-gfx] " Edward Cree
2021-05-10 13:58           ` Edward Cree
2021-05-10 13:58           ` Edward Cree
2021-05-10 13:58           ` [f2fs-dev] " Edward Cree
2021-05-10 13:58           ` Edward Cree
2021-05-10 13:59       ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-05-10 13:59         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Matthew Wilcox
2021-05-10 13:59         ` [Intel-gfx] " Matthew Wilcox
2021-05-10 13:59         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-05-10 13:59         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-05-10 13:59         ` [f2fs-dev] " Matthew Wilcox
2021-05-10 13:59         ` Matthew Wilcox
2021-05-10 14:33         ` Edward Cree
2021-05-10 14:33           ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Edward Cree
2021-05-10 14:33           ` [Intel-gfx] " Edward Cree
2021-05-10 14:33           ` Edward Cree
2021-05-10 14:33           ` Edward Cree
2021-05-10 14:33           ` [f2fs-dev] " Edward Cree
2021-05-10 14:33           ` Edward Cree
2021-05-11  9:00           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:00             ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:00             ` [Intel-gfx] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:00             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:00             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:00             ` [f2fs-dev] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:00             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:19             ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-11  9:19               ` [Intel-wired-lan] " David Woodhouse
2021-05-11  9:19               ` [Intel-gfx] " David Woodhouse
2021-05-11  9:19               ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-11  9:19               ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-11  9:19               ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-10 13:49     ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-10 13:49       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " David Woodhouse
2021-05-10 13:49       ` [Intel-gfx] " David Woodhouse
2021-05-10 13:49       ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-10 13:49       ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-10 13:49       ` David Woodhouse
2021-05-10 19:22       ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-05-10 19:22         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Theodore Ts'o
2021-05-10 19:22         ` [Intel-gfx] " Theodore Ts'o
2021-05-10 19:22         ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-05-10 19:22         ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-05-10 19:22         ` [f2fs-dev] " Theodore Ts'o
2021-05-10 19:22         ` Theodore Ts'o
2021-05-11  9:37         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:37           ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:37           ` [Intel-gfx] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:37           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:37           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:37           ` [f2fs-dev] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:37           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:25       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:25         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:25         ` [Intel-gfx] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:25         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:25         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:25         ` [f2fs-dev] " Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-11  9:25         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2021-05-10 14:00     ` Ben Boeckel
2021-05-10 14:00       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Ben Boeckel
2021-05-10 14:00       ` [Intel-gfx] " Ben Boeckel
2021-05-10 14:00       ` Ben Boeckel
2021-05-10 14:00       ` Ben Boeckel
2021-05-10 14:00       ` [f2fs-dev] " Ben Boeckel
2021-05-10 14:00       ` Ben Boeckel
2021-05-10 21:57 ` Adam Borowski
2021-05-10 21:57   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Adam Borowski
2021-05-10 21:57   ` [Intel-gfx] " Adam Borowski
2021-05-10 21:57   ` Adam Borowski
2021-05-10 21:57   ` Adam Borowski
2021-05-10 21:57   ` [f2fs-dev] " Adam Borowski
2021-05-10 21:57   ` Adam Borowski

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