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From: Viresh Kumar <viresh.kumar@linaro.org>
To: Vincent Donnefort <vincent.donnefort@arm.com>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, rjw@rjwysocki.net,
	vincent.guittot@linaro.org, qperret@google.com,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, ionela.voinescu@arm.com,
	lukasz.luba@arm.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/6] cpufreq: Add an interface to mark inefficient frequencies
Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 13:05:00 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210616073500.b5wazdssoa5djp5o@vireshk-i7> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210615171530.GA277695@e120877-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On 15-06-21, 18:15, Vincent Donnefort wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 15, 2021 at 03:47:06PM +0530, Viresh Kumar wrote:
> > The point is that I don't want cpufreq to carry this for users, we
> > have EM today, tomorrow we may want to mark a frequency as inefficient
> > from somewhere else. The call need to initiate from EM core.
> 
> In the current version of this patchset, any driver can mark inefficiencies
> without relying on the EM, just by adding the flag CPUFREQ_INEFFICIENT_FREQ in
> cpufreq_frequency_table.

Yeah, I wasn't really talking about cpufreq drivers but external
entities, like EM.

> Populating cpufreq_frequency_table from the EM in cpufreq was just an attempt to
> a less intrusive set of changes.
 
> > And this isn't a cpufreq only thing, but is going to be generic along
> > with other device types.
> > 
> > This is exactly why I asked you earlier to play with OPP core for
> > this. That is the central place for data for all such users.
> > 
> > If this information is present at the OPP table (somehow), then we can
> > just fix dev_pm_opp_init_cpufreq_table() to set this for cpufreq core
> > as well.
> > 
> > This is the sequence that is followed in cpufreq drivers today:
> > 
> > dev_pm_opp_of_cpumask_add_table();
> > dev_pm_opp_init_cpufreq_table();
> > dev_pm_opp_of_register_em();
> > 
> > What about changing this to:
> > 
> > dev_pm_opp_of_cpumask_add_table();
> > 
> > /* Mark OPPs are inefficient here */
> > dev_pm_opp_of_register_em();
> > 
> > /* This should automatically pick the right set */
> > dev_pm_opp_init_cpufreq_table();
> > 
> > Will this break anything ?
> 
> Probably not, but with this approach I'll have to modify all the cpufreq drivers
> that are registering the EM, which I tried to avoid as much as possible so far.

Hmm. You are right as well, but I just want to get the right API in
place which lives a longer life :)

> But if we sum-up:
> 
> 1. em_dev_register_perf_domain() find inefficiencies
> 
> 2. dev_pm_opp_of_register_em() apply EM inefficiencies into the OPP structures

I was looking to add a new API to the OPP core
(dev_pm_opp_mark_inefficient()) to mark an OPP inefficient. And then
get it called from em_create_perf_table().

But I now see that EM core rather has callbacks to call into and with
that I think you should rather add another callback
(.mark_inefficient()) in struct em_data_callback, to set inefficient
frequencies.

>    Note: scmi-cpufreq would need special treatment, as it doesn't rely
>    dev_pm_opp_of_register_em().

For both dev_pm_opp_of_register_em() and scmi case, you can then set
this callback to dev_pm_opp_mark_inefficient().

> 3. dev_pm_opp_init_cpufreq_table() marks the cpufreq table with the OPP
>    inefficiencies 

Yes.

> Guess it would ease the adoption by other OPP clients. However this patchset
> will clearly get bigger.
> 
> Would you agree with that?

Yes, it is fine.

-- 
viresh

  reply	other threads:[~2021-06-16  7:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-04 11:05 [PATCH v3 0/6] EM / PM: Inefficient OPPs Vincent Donnefort
2021-06-04 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] PM / EM: Fix inefficient states detection Vincent Donnefort
2021-06-04 18:09   ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2021-06-04 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] PM / EM: Mark inefficient states Vincent Donnefort
2021-06-04 18:12   ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2021-06-04 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] cpufreq: Add an interface to mark inefficient frequencies Vincent Donnefort
2021-06-04 18:19   ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2021-06-14 13:40     ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-06-07  5:02   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-06-07 10:14     ` Lukasz Luba
2021-06-14  7:28   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-06-14 13:35     ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-06-15  5:02       ` Viresh Kumar
2021-06-15  8:44         ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-06-15 10:17           ` Viresh Kumar
2021-06-15 17:15             ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-06-16  7:35               ` Viresh Kumar [this message]
2021-06-16  9:03                 ` Lukasz Luba
2021-06-16  9:31                   ` Viresh Kumar
2021-06-16 10:33                     ` Lukasz Luba
2021-06-16 10:53                       ` Viresh Kumar
2021-06-16 12:45                         ` Lukasz Luba
2021-07-02 14:21                           ` Lukasz Luba
2021-07-02 15:46                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-07-02 16:04                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-07-02 16:08                                 ` Lukasz Luba
2021-07-02 17:53                                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-07-02 19:04                                     ` Lukasz Luba
2021-07-02 19:17                                     ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-07-05 14:09                                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-07-06  8:12                                         ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-07-06  8:37                                           ` Viresh Kumar
2021-07-06  8:43                                             ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-07-06  8:50                                               ` Viresh Kumar
2021-07-06 12:11                                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-07-02 16:13                               ` Vincent Donnefort
2021-07-02 17:38                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2021-06-22  9:01             ` Quentin Perret
2021-06-22  9:25               ` Viresh Kumar
2021-06-04 11:05 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] cpufreq: Skip inefficient frequencies in cpufreq_driver_resolve_freq() Vincent Donnefort
2021-06-04 18:25   ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2021-06-04 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] cpufreq: Mark inefficient frequencies using the Energy Model Vincent Donnefort
2021-06-04 18:35   ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2021-06-04 11:06 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] PM / EM: Skip inefficient states Vincent Donnefort
2021-06-04 18:49   ` Matthias Kaehlcke

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