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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Josef Bacik <josef@toxicpanda.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	Chuck Lever <chuck.lever@oracle.com>, Chris Mason <clm@fb.com>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, Wang Yugui <wangyugui@e16-tech.com>,
	Ulli Horlacher <framstag@rus.uni-stuttgart.de>,
	linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] NFSD: handle BTRFS subvolumes better.
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2021 18:10:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20210720221044.GD19507@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e1d9caad-e4c7-09d4-b145-5397b24e1cc7@toxicpanda.com>

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 02:01:11PM -0400, Josef Bacik wrote:
> The problem I ran into was the automount stuff requires that we have a
> completely different superblock for every vfsmount. This is fine for
> things like nfs or samba where the automount literally points to a
> completely different mount, but doesn't work for btrfs where it's on
> the same file system.  If you have 1000 subvolumes and run sync()
> you're going to write the superblock 1000 times for the same file
> system.

Dumb question: why do you have to write the superblock 1000 times, and
why is that slower than writing to 1000 different filesystems?

> You are
> going to reclaim inodes on the same file system 1000 times.  You are
> going to reclaim dcache on the same filesytem 1000 times.  You are
> also going to pin 1000 dentries/inodes into memory whenever you
> wander into these things because the super is going to hold them
> open.

That last part at least is the same for the 1000-different-filesystems
case, isn't it?

--b.

> This is not a workable solution.  It's not a matter of simply tying
> into existing infrastructure, we'd have to completely rework how the
> VFS deals with this stuff in order to be reasonable.  And when I
> brought this up to Al he told me I was insane and we absolutely had
> to have a different SB for every vfsmount, which means we can't use
> vfsmount for this, which means we don't have any other options.
> Thanks,
> 
> Josef

  parent reply	other threads:[~2021-07-20 22:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-06-13  3:53 any idea about auto export multiple btrfs snapshots? Wang Yugui
2021-03-10  7:46 ` nfs subvolume access? Ulli Horlacher
2021-03-10  7:59   ` Hugo Mills
2021-03-10  8:09     ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-03-10  9:35       ` Graham Cobb
2021-03-10 15:55         ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-03-10 17:29           ` Forza
2021-03-10 17:46             ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-03-10  8:17   ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-03-11  7:46   ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-08 22:17     ` cannot use btrfs for nfs server Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-09  0:05       ` Graham Cobb
2021-07-09  4:05         ` NeilBrown
2021-07-09  6:53         ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-09  7:23           ` Forza
2021-07-09  7:24             ` Hugo Mills
2021-07-09  7:34             ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-09 16:30               ` Chris Murphy
2021-07-10  6:35                 ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-11 11:41                   ` Forza
2021-07-12  7:17                     ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-09 16:35           ` Chris Murphy
2021-07-10  6:56             ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-10 22:17               ` Chris Murphy
2021-07-12  7:25                 ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-12 13:06                   ` Graham Cobb
2021-07-12 16:16                     ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-12 22:56                       ` g.btrfs
2021-07-13  7:37                         ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-19 12:06                           ` Forza
2021-07-19 13:07                             ` Forza
2021-07-19 13:35                               ` Forza
2021-07-27 11:27                             ` Ulli Horlacher
2021-07-09 16:06       ` Lord Vader
2021-07-10  7:03         ` Ulli Horlacher
     [not found]   ` <162632387205.13764.6196748476850020429@noble.neil.brown.name>
2021-07-15 14:09     ` [PATCH/RFC] NFSD: handle BTRFS subvolumes better Josef Bacik
2021-07-15 16:45       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-15 17:11         ` Josef Bacik
2021-07-15 17:24           ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-15 18:01             ` Josef Bacik
2021-07-15 22:37               ` NeilBrown
2021-07-19 15:40                 ` Josef Bacik
2021-07-19 20:00                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-19 20:44                     ` Josef Bacik
2021-07-19 23:53                       ` NeilBrown
2021-07-19 15:49                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-20  0:02                   ` NeilBrown
2021-07-19  9:16               ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-19 23:54                 ` NeilBrown
2021-07-20  6:23                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-20  7:17                     ` NeilBrown
2021-07-20  8:00                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-07-20 23:11                         ` NeilBrown
2021-07-20 22:10               ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2021-07-15 23:02       ` NeilBrown
2021-07-15 15:45     ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-07-15 23:08       ` NeilBrown
2021-06-14 22:50 ` any idea about auto export multiple btrfs snapshots? NeilBrown
2021-06-15 15:13   ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-15 15:41     ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-16  5:47     ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-17  3:02     ` NeilBrown
2021-06-17  4:28       ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-18  0:32         ` NeilBrown
2021-06-18  7:26           ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-18 13:34             ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-19  6:47               ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-20 12:27             ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-21  4:52             ` NeilBrown
2021-06-21  5:13               ` NeilBrown
2021-06-21  8:34                 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-22  1:28                   ` NeilBrown
2021-06-22  3:22                     ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-22  7:14                       ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-23  0:59                         ` NeilBrown
2021-06-23  6:14                           ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-23  6:29                             ` NeilBrown
2021-06-23  9:34                               ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-23 23:38                                 ` NeilBrown
2021-06-23 15:35                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-06-23 22:04                             ` NeilBrown
2021-06-23 22:25                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-06-23 23:29                                 ` NeilBrown
2021-06-23 23:41                                   ` Frank Filz
2021-06-24  0:01                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2021-06-24 21:58                               ` Patrick Goetz
2021-06-24 23:27                                 ` NeilBrown
2021-06-21 14:35               ` Frank Filz
2021-06-21 14:55                 ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-21 17:49                   ` Frank Filz
2021-06-21 22:41                     ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-22 17:34                       ` Frank Filz
2021-06-22 22:48                         ` Wang Yugui
2021-06-17  2:15   ` Wang Yugui

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