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From: Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com>
To: Hamza Mahfooz <someguy@effective-light.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: Karsten Graul <kgraul@linux.ibm.com>,
	Ioana Ciornei <ioana.ciornei@nxp.com>,
	Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: DPAA2 triggers, [PATCH] dma debug: report -EEXIST errors in add_dma_entry
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 15:21:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211006152138.160d64e5@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211006151043.61fe9613@thinkpad>

On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 15:10:43 +0200
Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 14:52:56 +0200
> Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 15:37:33 +0200
> > Karsten Graul <kgraul@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On 14/09/2021 17:45, Ioana Ciornei wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 10:33:26PM -0500, Jeremy Linton wrote:
> > > >> +DPAA2, netdev maintainers
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> On 5/18/21 7:54 AM, Hamza Mahfooz wrote:
> > > >>> Since, overlapping mappings are not supported by the DMA API we should
> > > >>> report an error if active_cacheline_insert returns -EEXIST.
> > > >>
> > > >> It seems this patch found a victim. I was trying to run iperf3 on a
> > > >> honeycomb (5.14.0, fedora 35) and the console is blasting this error message
> > > >> at 100% cpu. So, I changed it to a WARN_ONCE() to get the call trace, which
> > > >> is attached below.
> > > >>
> > > > 
> > > > These frags are allocated by the stack, transformed into a scatterlist
> > > > by skb_to_sgvec and then DMA mapped with dma_map_sg. It was not the
> > > > dpaa2-eth's decision to use two fragments from the same page (that will
> > > > also end un in the same cacheline) in two different in-flight skbs.
> > > > 
> > > > Is this behavior normal?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > We see the same problem here and it started with 5.15-rc2 in our nightly CI runs.
> > > The CI has panic_on_warn enabled so we see the panic every day now.
> > 
> > Adding a WARN for a case that be detected false-positive seems not
> > acceptable, exactly for this reason (kernel panic on unaffected
> > systems).
> > 
> > So I guess it boils down to the question if the behavior that Ioana
> > described is legit behavior, on a system that is dma coherent. We
> > are apparently hitting the same scenario, although it could not yet be
> > reproduced with debug printks for some reason.
> > 
> > If the answer is yes, than please remove at lease the WARN, so that
> > it will not make systems crash that behave valid, and have
> > panic_on_warn set. Even a normal printk feels wrong to me in that
> > case, it really sounds rather like you want to fix / better refine
> > the overlap check, if you want to report anything here.
> 
> Dan, Christoph, any opinion?
> 
> So far it all looks a lot like a false positive, so could you please
> see that those patches get reverted? I do wonder a bit why this is
> not an issue for others, we surely cannot be the only ones running
> CI with panic_on_warn.

For reference, we are talking about these commits:

2b4bbc6231d7 ("dma-debug: report -EEXIST errors in add_dma_entry")
510e1a724ab1 ("dma-debug: prevent an error message from causing runtime problems")

The latter introduced the WARN (through err_printk usage), and should
be reverted if it can be false-positive, but both seem wrong in that
case.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com>
To: Hamza Mahfooz <someguy@effective-light.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
Cc: linux-s390 <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com>,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	Ioana Ciornei <ioana.ciornei@nxp.com>,
	Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	Karsten Graul <kgraul@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: DPAA2 triggers, [PATCH] dma debug: report -EEXIST errors in add_dma_entry
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2021 15:21:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20211006152138.160d64e5@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20211006151043.61fe9613@thinkpad>

On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 15:10:43 +0200
Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 14:52:56 +0200
> Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 15:37:33 +0200
> > Karsten Graul <kgraul@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On 14/09/2021 17:45, Ioana Ciornei wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 10:33:26PM -0500, Jeremy Linton wrote:
> > > >> +DPAA2, netdev maintainers
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >>
> > > >> On 5/18/21 7:54 AM, Hamza Mahfooz wrote:
> > > >>> Since, overlapping mappings are not supported by the DMA API we should
> > > >>> report an error if active_cacheline_insert returns -EEXIST.
> > > >>
> > > >> It seems this patch found a victim. I was trying to run iperf3 on a
> > > >> honeycomb (5.14.0, fedora 35) and the console is blasting this error message
> > > >> at 100% cpu. So, I changed it to a WARN_ONCE() to get the call trace, which
> > > >> is attached below.
> > > >>
> > > > 
> > > > These frags are allocated by the stack, transformed into a scatterlist
> > > > by skb_to_sgvec and then DMA mapped with dma_map_sg. It was not the
> > > > dpaa2-eth's decision to use two fragments from the same page (that will
> > > > also end un in the same cacheline) in two different in-flight skbs.
> > > > 
> > > > Is this behavior normal?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > We see the same problem here and it started with 5.15-rc2 in our nightly CI runs.
> > > The CI has panic_on_warn enabled so we see the panic every day now.
> > 
> > Adding a WARN for a case that be detected false-positive seems not
> > acceptable, exactly for this reason (kernel panic on unaffected
> > systems).
> > 
> > So I guess it boils down to the question if the behavior that Ioana
> > described is legit behavior, on a system that is dma coherent. We
> > are apparently hitting the same scenario, although it could not yet be
> > reproduced with debug printks for some reason.
> > 
> > If the answer is yes, than please remove at lease the WARN, so that
> > it will not make systems crash that behave valid, and have
> > panic_on_warn set. Even a normal printk feels wrong to me in that
> > case, it really sounds rather like you want to fix / better refine
> > the overlap check, if you want to report anything here.
> 
> Dan, Christoph, any opinion?
> 
> So far it all looks a lot like a false positive, so could you please
> see that those patches get reverted? I do wonder a bit why this is
> not an issue for others, we surely cannot be the only ones running
> CI with panic_on_warn.

For reference, we are talking about these commits:

2b4bbc6231d7 ("dma-debug: report -EEXIST errors in add_dma_entry")
510e1a724ab1 ("dma-debug: prevent an error message from causing runtime problems")

The latter introduced the WARN (through err_printk usage), and should
be reverted if it can be false-positive, but both seem wrong in that
case.
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-06 13:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-05-18 12:54 [PATCH] dma debug: report -EEXIST errors in add_dma_entry Hamza Mahfooz
2021-05-18 12:54 ` Hamza Mahfooz
2021-06-22  7:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-06-22  7:41   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-09  3:33 ` DPAA2 triggers, " Jeremy Linton
2021-09-09  3:33   ` Jeremy Linton
2021-09-09 21:16   ` Ioana Ciornei
2021-09-09 21:16     ` Ioana Ciornei
2021-09-10 10:23   ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-10 10:23     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-09-14 15:45   ` Ioana Ciornei
2021-09-14 15:45     ` Ioana Ciornei
2021-09-30 13:37     ` Karsten Graul
2021-09-30 13:37       ` Karsten Graul
2021-10-01 12:52       ` Gerald Schaefer
2021-10-01 12:52         ` Gerald Schaefer
2021-10-06 13:10         ` Gerald Schaefer
2021-10-06 13:10           ` Gerald Schaefer
2021-10-06 13:21           ` Gerald Schaefer [this message]
2021-10-06 13:21             ` Gerald Schaefer
2021-10-06 14:23           ` Robin Murphy
2021-10-06 14:23             ` Robin Murphy
2021-10-06 15:06             ` Gerald Schaefer
2021-10-06 15:06               ` Gerald Schaefer
2021-10-07 10:59             ` Karsten Graul
2021-10-07 10:59               ` Karsten Graul
2021-10-07 16:40               ` Gerald Schaefer
2021-10-07 16:40                 ` Gerald Schaefer
2021-10-11 11:47               ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-11 11:47                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-01  4:19     ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-01  4:19       ` Christoph Hellwig
2021-10-01  9:21       ` Ioana Ciornei
2021-10-01  9:21         ` Ioana Ciornei

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