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* [RFC] Bluetooth: vhci: Add support for setting msft_opcode
@ 2021-10-11 21:11 Luiz Augusto von Dentz
  2021-10-12  0:30 ` kernel test robot
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Luiz Augusto von Dentz @ 2021-10-11 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-bluetooth

From: Luiz Augusto von Dentz <luiz.von.dentz@intel.com>

This adds a debugfs entry to set msft_opcode enabling vhci to emulate
controllers with MSFT extention support.

Signed-off-by: Luiz Augusto von Dentz <luiz.von.dentz@intel.com>
---
 drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c | 32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 32 insertions(+)

diff --git a/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c b/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c
index 56c6b22be10b..ac122299bacc 100644
--- a/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c
+++ b/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c
@@ -194,6 +194,34 @@ static const struct file_operations force_wakeup_fops = {
 	.llseek		= default_llseek,
 };
 
+
+static int msft_opcode_set(void *data, u64 val)
+{
+	struct vhci_data *vhci = data;
+	uint16_t ogf = (val & 0xffff >> 10);
+
+	if (val > 0xffff || ogf != 0x3f)
+		return -EINVAL;
+
+	hci_set_msft_opcode(vhci->hdev, val);
+
+	return 0;
+}
+
+static int msft_opcode_get(void *data, u64 *val)
+{
+	struct vhci_data *vhci = data;
+
+	hci_dev_lock(vhci->hdev);
+	*val = vhci->hdev->msft_opcode;
+	hci_dev_unlock(vhci->hdev);
+
+	return 0;
+}
+
+DEFINE_DEBUGFS_ATTRIBUTE(msft_opcode_fops, msft_opcode_get, msft_opcode_set,
+			 "%llu\n");
+
 static int __vhci_create_device(struct vhci_data *data, __u8 opcode)
 {
 	struct hci_dev *hdev;
@@ -259,6 +287,10 @@ static int __vhci_create_device(struct vhci_data *data, __u8 opcode)
 	debugfs_create_file("force_wakeup", 0644, hdev->debugfs, data,
 			    &force_wakeup_fops);
 
+	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_BT_MSFTEXT))
+		debugfs_create_file("msft_opcode", 0644, hdev->debugfs, data,
+				    &msft_opcode_fops);
+
 	hci_skb_pkt_type(skb) = HCI_VENDOR_PKT;
 
 	skb_put_u8(skb, 0xff);
-- 
2.31.1


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* Re: [RFC] Bluetooth: vhci: Add support for setting msft_opcode
  2021-10-11 21:11 [RFC] Bluetooth: vhci: Add support for setting msft_opcode Luiz Augusto von Dentz
@ 2021-10-12  0:30 ` kernel test robot
  2021-10-12  3:08   ` kernel test robot
  2021-10-12 15:50 ` Marcel Holtmann
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: kernel test robot @ 2021-10-12  0:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: kbuild-all

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Hi Luiz,

[FYI, it's a private test report for your RFC patch.]
[auto build test ERROR on bluetooth-next/master]
[also build test ERROR on next-20211011]
[cannot apply to bluetooth/master v5.15-rc5]
[If your patch is applied to the wrong git tree, kindly drop us a note.
And when submitting patch, we suggest to use '--base' as documented in
https://git-scm.com/docs/git-format-patch]

url:    https://github.com/0day-ci/linux/commits/Luiz-Augusto-von-Dentz/Bluetooth-vhci-Add-support-for-setting-msft_opcode/20211012-051319
base:   https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bluetooth/bluetooth-next.git master
config: sparc64-randconfig-r013-20211011 (attached as .config)
compiler: sparc64-linux-gcc (GCC) 11.2.0
reproduce (this is a W=1 build):
        wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/intel/lkp-tests/master/sbin/make.cross -O ~/bin/make.cross
        chmod +x ~/bin/make.cross
        # https://github.com/0day-ci/linux/commit/fb773fdf30cade9ffce927d653090595ed809a2a
        git remote add linux-review https://github.com/0day-ci/linux
        git fetch --no-tags linux-review Luiz-Augusto-von-Dentz/Bluetooth-vhci-Add-support-for-setting-msft_opcode/20211012-051319
        git checkout fb773fdf30cade9ffce927d653090595ed809a2a
        # save the attached .config to linux build tree
        mkdir build_dir
        COMPILER_INSTALL_PATH=$HOME/0day COMPILER=gcc-11.2.0 make.cross O=build_dir ARCH=sparc64 SHELL=/bin/bash drivers/bluetooth/

If you fix the issue, kindly add following tag as appropriate
Reported-by: kernel test robot <lkp@intel.com>

All errors (new ones prefixed by >>):

   drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c: In function 'msft_opcode_get':
>> drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c:216:26: error: 'struct hci_dev' has no member named 'msft_opcode'
     216 |         *val = vhci->hdev->msft_opcode;
         |                          ^~


vim +216 drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c

   210	
   211	static int msft_opcode_get(void *data, u64 *val)
   212	{
   213		struct vhci_data *vhci = data;
   214	
   215		hci_dev_lock(vhci->hdev);
 > 216		*val = vhci->hdev->msft_opcode;
   217		hci_dev_unlock(vhci->hdev);
   218	
   219		return 0;
   220	}
   221	

---
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* Re: [RFC] Bluetooth: vhci: Add support for setting msft_opcode
  2021-10-11 21:11 [RFC] Bluetooth: vhci: Add support for setting msft_opcode Luiz Augusto von Dentz
@ 2021-10-12  3:08   ` kernel test robot
  2021-10-12  3:08   ` kernel test robot
  2021-10-12 15:50 ` Marcel Holtmann
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: kernel test robot @ 2021-10-12  3:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Luiz Augusto von Dentz; +Cc: llvm, kbuild-all

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Hi Luiz,

[FYI, it's a private test report for your RFC patch.]
[auto build test ERROR on bluetooth-next/master]
[also build test ERROR on next-20211011]
[cannot apply to bluetooth/master v5.15-rc5]
[If your patch is applied to the wrong git tree, kindly drop us a note.
And when submitting patch, we suggest to use '--base' as documented in
https://git-scm.com/docs/git-format-patch]

url:    https://github.com/0day-ci/linux/commits/Luiz-Augusto-von-Dentz/Bluetooth-vhci-Add-support-for-setting-msft_opcode/20211012-051319
base:   https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bluetooth/bluetooth-next.git master
config: mips-buildonly-randconfig-r003-20211012 (attached as .config)
compiler: clang version 14.0.0 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project c3dcf39554dbea780d6cb7e12239451ba47a2668)
reproduce (this is a W=1 build):
        wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/intel/lkp-tests/master/sbin/make.cross -O ~/bin/make.cross
        chmod +x ~/bin/make.cross
        # install mips cross compiling tool for clang build
        # apt-get install binutils-mips-linux-gnu
        # https://github.com/0day-ci/linux/commit/fb773fdf30cade9ffce927d653090595ed809a2a
        git remote add linux-review https://github.com/0day-ci/linux
        git fetch --no-tags linux-review Luiz-Augusto-von-Dentz/Bluetooth-vhci-Add-support-for-setting-msft_opcode/20211012-051319
        git checkout fb773fdf30cade9ffce927d653090595ed809a2a
        # save the attached .config to linux build tree
        mkdir build_dir
        COMPILER_INSTALL_PATH=$HOME/0day COMPILER=clang make.cross W=1 O=build_dir ARCH=mips SHELL=/bin/bash drivers/bluetooth/

If you fix the issue, kindly add following tag as appropriate
Reported-by: kernel test robot <lkp@intel.com>

All errors (new ones prefixed by >>):

>> drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c:216:21: error: no member named 'msft_opcode' in 'struct hci_dev'
           *val = vhci->hdev->msft_opcode;
                  ~~~~~~~~~~  ^
   1 error generated.


vim +216 drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c

   210	
   211	static int msft_opcode_get(void *data, u64 *val)
   212	{
   213		struct vhci_data *vhci = data;
   214	
   215		hci_dev_lock(vhci->hdev);
 > 216		*val = vhci->hdev->msft_opcode;
   217		hci_dev_unlock(vhci->hdev);
   218	
   219		return 0;
   220	}
   221	

---
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https://lists.01.org/hyperkitty/list/kbuild-all@lists.01.org

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* Re: [RFC] Bluetooth: vhci: Add support for setting msft_opcode
@ 2021-10-12  3:08   ` kernel test robot
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: kernel test robot @ 2021-10-12  3:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: kbuild-all

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Hi Luiz,

[FYI, it's a private test report for your RFC patch.]
[auto build test ERROR on bluetooth-next/master]
[also build test ERROR on next-20211011]
[cannot apply to bluetooth/master v5.15-rc5]
[If your patch is applied to the wrong git tree, kindly drop us a note.
And when submitting patch, we suggest to use '--base' as documented in
https://git-scm.com/docs/git-format-patch]

url:    https://github.com/0day-ci/linux/commits/Luiz-Augusto-von-Dentz/Bluetooth-vhci-Add-support-for-setting-msft_opcode/20211012-051319
base:   https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/bluetooth/bluetooth-next.git master
config: mips-buildonly-randconfig-r003-20211012 (attached as .config)
compiler: clang version 14.0.0 (https://github.com/llvm/llvm-project c3dcf39554dbea780d6cb7e12239451ba47a2668)
reproduce (this is a W=1 build):
        wget https://raw.githubusercontent.com/intel/lkp-tests/master/sbin/make.cross -O ~/bin/make.cross
        chmod +x ~/bin/make.cross
        # install mips cross compiling tool for clang build
        # apt-get install binutils-mips-linux-gnu
        # https://github.com/0day-ci/linux/commit/fb773fdf30cade9ffce927d653090595ed809a2a
        git remote add linux-review https://github.com/0day-ci/linux
        git fetch --no-tags linux-review Luiz-Augusto-von-Dentz/Bluetooth-vhci-Add-support-for-setting-msft_opcode/20211012-051319
        git checkout fb773fdf30cade9ffce927d653090595ed809a2a
        # save the attached .config to linux build tree
        mkdir build_dir
        COMPILER_INSTALL_PATH=$HOME/0day COMPILER=clang make.cross W=1 O=build_dir ARCH=mips SHELL=/bin/bash drivers/bluetooth/

If you fix the issue, kindly add following tag as appropriate
Reported-by: kernel test robot <lkp@intel.com>

All errors (new ones prefixed by >>):

>> drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c:216:21: error: no member named 'msft_opcode' in 'struct hci_dev'
           *val = vhci->hdev->msft_opcode;
                  ~~~~~~~~~~  ^
   1 error generated.


vim +216 drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c

   210	
   211	static int msft_opcode_get(void *data, u64 *val)
   212	{
   213		struct vhci_data *vhci = data;
   214	
   215		hci_dev_lock(vhci->hdev);
 > 216		*val = vhci->hdev->msft_opcode;
   217		hci_dev_unlock(vhci->hdev);
   218	
   219		return 0;
   220	}
   221	

---
0-DAY CI Kernel Test Service, Intel Corporation
https://lists.01.org/hyperkitty/list/kbuild-all(a)lists.01.org

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* Re: [RFC] Bluetooth: vhci: Add support for setting msft_opcode
  2021-10-11 21:11 [RFC] Bluetooth: vhci: Add support for setting msft_opcode Luiz Augusto von Dentz
  2021-10-12  0:30 ` kernel test robot
  2021-10-12  3:08   ` kernel test robot
@ 2021-10-12 15:50 ` Marcel Holtmann
  2021-10-12 19:55   ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Marcel Holtmann @ 2021-10-12 15:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Luiz Augusto von Dentz; +Cc: linux-bluetooth

Hi Luiz,

> This adds a debugfs entry to set msft_opcode enabling vhci to emulate
> controllers with MSFT extention support.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Luiz Augusto von Dentz <luiz.von.dentz@intel.com>
> ---
> drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c | 32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 32 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c b/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c
> index 56c6b22be10b..ac122299bacc 100644
> --- a/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c
> +++ b/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c
> @@ -194,6 +194,34 @@ static const struct file_operations force_wakeup_fops = {
> 	.llseek		= default_llseek,
> };
> 
> +
> +static int msft_opcode_set(void *data, u64 val)
> +{
> +	struct vhci_data *vhci = data;
> +	uint16_t ogf = (val & 0xffff >> 10);
> +
> +	if (val > 0xffff || ogf != 0x3f)

I would actually just include it here to avoid any 16-bit overflow.

	if (val > 0xffff || (val & 0xffff >> 10) != 0x3f)

> +		return -EINVAL;
> +
> +	hci_set_msft_opcode(vhci->hdev, val);
> +
> +	return 0;
> +}
> +
> +static int msft_opcode_get(void *data, u64 *val)
> +{
> +	struct vhci_data *vhci = data;
> +
> +	hci_dev_lock(vhci->hdev);
> +	*val = vhci->hdev->msft_opcode;
> +	hci_dev_unlock(vhci->hdev);
> +
> +	return 0;
> +}
> +
> +DEFINE_DEBUGFS_ATTRIBUTE(msft_opcode_fops, msft_opcode_get, msft_opcode_set,
> +			 "%llu\n");
> +
> static int __vhci_create_device(struct vhci_data *data, __u8 opcode)
> {
> 	struct hci_dev *hdev;
> @@ -259,6 +287,10 @@ static int __vhci_create_device(struct vhci_data *data, __u8 opcode)
> 	debugfs_create_file("force_wakeup", 0644, hdev->debugfs, data,
> 			    &force_wakeup_fops);
> 
> +	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_BT_MSFTEXT))
> +		debugfs_create_file("msft_opcode", 0644, hdev->debugfs, data,
> +				    &msft_opcode_fops);
> +

So my concern is that you can modify this value when the device is up and running. That will cause havoc.

Just checking HCI_UP is kinda bad since we just removed that access from the drivers.

Regards

Marcel


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* Re: [RFC] Bluetooth: vhci: Add support for setting msft_opcode
  2021-10-12 15:50 ` Marcel Holtmann
@ 2021-10-12 19:55   ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
  2021-10-12 20:23     ` Marcel Holtmann
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Luiz Augusto von Dentz @ 2021-10-12 19:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marcel Holtmann; +Cc: linux-bluetooth

Hi Marcel,

On Tue, Oct 12, 2021 at 8:50 AM Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org> wrote:
>
> Hi Luiz,
>
> > This adds a debugfs entry to set msft_opcode enabling vhci to emulate
> > controllers with MSFT extention support.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: Luiz Augusto von Dentz <luiz.von.dentz@intel.com>
> > ---
> > drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c | 32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > 1 file changed, 32 insertions(+)
> >
> > diff --git a/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c b/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c
> > index 56c6b22be10b..ac122299bacc 100644
> > --- a/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c
> > +++ b/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c
> > @@ -194,6 +194,34 @@ static const struct file_operations force_wakeup_fops = {
> >       .llseek         = default_llseek,
> > };
> >
> > +
> > +static int msft_opcode_set(void *data, u64 val)
> > +{
> > +     struct vhci_data *vhci = data;
> > +     uint16_t ogf = (val & 0xffff >> 10);
> > +
> > +     if (val > 0xffff || ogf != 0x3f)
>
> I would actually just include it here to avoid any 16-bit overflow.
>
>         if (val > 0xffff || (val & 0xffff >> 10) != 0x3f)

Ack.

> > +             return -EINVAL;
> > +
> > +     hci_set_msft_opcode(vhci->hdev, val);
> > +
> > +     return 0;
> > +}
> > +
> > +static int msft_opcode_get(void *data, u64 *val)
> > +{
> > +     struct vhci_data *vhci = data;
> > +
> > +     hci_dev_lock(vhci->hdev);
> > +     *val = vhci->hdev->msft_opcode;
> > +     hci_dev_unlock(vhci->hdev);
> > +
> > +     return 0;
> > +}
> > +
> > +DEFINE_DEBUGFS_ATTRIBUTE(msft_opcode_fops, msft_opcode_get, msft_opcode_set,
> > +                      "%llu\n");
> > +
> > static int __vhci_create_device(struct vhci_data *data, __u8 opcode)
> > {
> >       struct hci_dev *hdev;
> > @@ -259,6 +287,10 @@ static int __vhci_create_device(struct vhci_data *data, __u8 opcode)
> >       debugfs_create_file("force_wakeup", 0644, hdev->debugfs, data,
> >                           &force_wakeup_fops);
> >
> > +     if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_BT_MSFTEXT))
> > +             debugfs_create_file("msft_opcode", 0644, hdev->debugfs, data,
> > +                                 &msft_opcode_fops);
> > +
>
> So my concern is that you can modify this value when the device is up and running. That will cause havoc.
>
> Just checking HCI_UP is kinda bad since we just removed that access from the drivers.

Right but we could add a check to HCI_UP inside hci_set_msft_opcode
and make it return an error, actually this might be a good idea anyway
even with existing so we prevent bad usage of hci_set_msft_opcode when
already up.

> Regards
>
> Marcel
>


-- 
Luiz Augusto von Dentz

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* Re: [RFC] Bluetooth: vhci: Add support for setting msft_opcode
  2021-10-12 19:55   ` Luiz Augusto von Dentz
@ 2021-10-12 20:23     ` Marcel Holtmann
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Marcel Holtmann @ 2021-10-12 20:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Luiz Augusto von Dentz; +Cc: linux-bluetooth

Hi Luiz,

>>> This adds a debugfs entry to set msft_opcode enabling vhci to emulate
>>> controllers with MSFT extention support.
>>> 
>>> Signed-off-by: Luiz Augusto von Dentz <luiz.von.dentz@intel.com>
>>> ---
>>> drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c | 32 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>> 1 file changed, 32 insertions(+)
>>> 
>>> diff --git a/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c b/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c
>>> index 56c6b22be10b..ac122299bacc 100644
>>> --- a/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c
>>> +++ b/drivers/bluetooth/hci_vhci.c
>>> @@ -194,6 +194,34 @@ static const struct file_operations force_wakeup_fops = {
>>>      .llseek         = default_llseek,
>>> };
>>> 
>>> +
>>> +static int msft_opcode_set(void *data, u64 val)
>>> +{
>>> +     struct vhci_data *vhci = data;
>>> +     uint16_t ogf = (val & 0xffff >> 10);
>>> +
>>> +     if (val > 0xffff || ogf != 0x3f)
>> 
>> I would actually just include it here to avoid any 16-bit overflow.
>> 
>>        if (val > 0xffff || (val & 0xffff >> 10) != 0x3f)
> 
> Ack.
> 
>>> +             return -EINVAL;
>>> +
>>> +     hci_set_msft_opcode(vhci->hdev, val);
>>> +
>>> +     return 0;
>>> +}
>>> +
>>> +static int msft_opcode_get(void *data, u64 *val)
>>> +{
>>> +     struct vhci_data *vhci = data;
>>> +
>>> +     hci_dev_lock(vhci->hdev);
>>> +     *val = vhci->hdev->msft_opcode;
>>> +     hci_dev_unlock(vhci->hdev);
>>> +
>>> +     return 0;
>>> +}
>>> +
>>> +DEFINE_DEBUGFS_ATTRIBUTE(msft_opcode_fops, msft_opcode_get, msft_opcode_set,
>>> +                      "%llu\n");
>>> +
>>> static int __vhci_create_device(struct vhci_data *data, __u8 opcode)
>>> {
>>>      struct hci_dev *hdev;
>>> @@ -259,6 +287,10 @@ static int __vhci_create_device(struct vhci_data *data, __u8 opcode)
>>>      debugfs_create_file("force_wakeup", 0644, hdev->debugfs, data,
>>>                          &force_wakeup_fops);
>>> 
>>> +     if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_BT_MSFTEXT))
>>> +             debugfs_create_file("msft_opcode", 0644, hdev->debugfs, data,
>>> +                                 &msft_opcode_fops);
>>> +
>> 
>> So my concern is that you can modify this value when the device is up and running. That will cause havoc.
>> 
>> Just checking HCI_UP is kinda bad since we just removed that access from the drivers.
> 
> Right but we could add a check to HCI_UP inside hci_set_msft_opcode
> and make it return an error, actually this might be a good idea anyway
> even with existing so we prevent bad usage of hci_set_msft_opcode when
> already up.

I did mean actually HCI_RUNNING, but this still won't work out since you should be able to set the opcode from hdev->setup.

You might be able to craft enough tests around HCI_INIT and HCI_SETUP to make it fail hci_set_msft_opcode. So that might be the safest way after all.

One other option is to actually just store the msft_opcode from debugfs in vhci_data. And then only set it from within hdev->setup. You need to set HCI_QUIRK_NON_PERSISTENT_SETUP for this, but that might actually work best then.

Note: you need an aosp_capable debugfs setting as well.

Regards

Marcel


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