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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>
Cc: Alim Akhtar <alim.akhtar@samsung.com>,
	Linux ARM Mailing List <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	SoC Team <soc@kernel.org>, linux-clk <linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>,
	DTML <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	LinusW <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@canonical.com>,
	Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>,
	"moderated list:ARM/SAMSUNG EXYNOS ARM ARCHITECTURES" 
	<linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pankaj Dubey <pankaj.dubey@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/23] Add support for Tesla Full Self-Driving (FSD) SoC
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 00:10:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220117231052.GC14035@duo.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOesGMhpw7+5Q3MDAFQTr8-sDFgVXOE=v6h8d8pbHiZn8=3h2g@mail.gmail.com>

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On Mon 2022-01-17 12:53:48, Olof Johansson wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 1:23 AM Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > > This patch set adds basic support for the Tesla Full Self-Driving (FSD)
> > > SoC. This SoC contains three clusters of four Cortex-A72 CPUs,
> > > as well as several IPs.
> >
> > I'm not thrilled by their naming. Intel does not produce "Intel
> > Fastest in world SoC"
> 
> If you say so. :)
> 
> > , and this chip is not actually suitable for
> > autonomous driving :-(.
> 
> And AMD's Infinity Fabric isn't.... infinite. Things have names.
> 
> That discussion seems off-topic for this patchset. It references a
> marketing name used by the company, and as such it makes sense to be
> able to cross-reference:
> https://www.tesla.com/support/full-self-driving-computer
> 
> Tesla seems to have moved away from the initial "Hardware 3" naming
> scheme, so using this naming seems as good as any.

I'd prefer to call it Tesla HW3. Even wikipedia has that name, no need
to do false advertising for Tesla, and we'll have good names for
HW2.5 and HW4 if it comes out. We normally use codenames, not
marketing names.

Best regards,
								Pavel
-- 
http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek

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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>
Cc: Alim Akhtar <alim.akhtar@samsung.com>,
	Linux ARM Mailing List <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	SoC Team <soc@kernel.org>, linux-clk <linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>,
	DTML <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	LinusW <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@canonical.com>,
	Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@samsung.com>,
	"moderated list:ARM/SAMSUNG EXYNOS ARM ARCHITECTURES"
	<linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	 Pankaj Dubey <pankaj.dubey@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/23] Add support for Tesla Full Self-Driving (FSD) SoC
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 00:10:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220117231052.GC14035@duo.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOesGMhpw7+5Q3MDAFQTr8-sDFgVXOE=v6h8d8pbHiZn8=3h2g@mail.gmail.com>


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On Mon 2022-01-17 12:53:48, Olof Johansson wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 1:23 AM Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz> wrote:
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > > This patch set adds basic support for the Tesla Full Self-Driving (FSD)
> > > SoC. This SoC contains three clusters of four Cortex-A72 CPUs,
> > > as well as several IPs.
> >
> > I'm not thrilled by their naming. Intel does not produce "Intel
> > Fastest in world SoC"
> 
> If you say so. :)
> 
> > , and this chip is not actually suitable for
> > autonomous driving :-(.
> 
> And AMD's Infinity Fabric isn't.... infinite. Things have names.
> 
> That discussion seems off-topic for this patchset. It references a
> marketing name used by the company, and as such it makes sense to be
> able to cross-reference:
> https://www.tesla.com/support/full-self-driving-computer
> 
> Tesla seems to have moved away from the initial "Hardware 3" naming
> scheme, so using this naming seems as good as any.

I'd prefer to call it Tesla HW3. Even wikipedia has that name, no need
to do false advertising for Tesla, and we'll have good names for
HW2.5 and HW4 if it comes out. We normally use codenames, not
marketing names.

Best regards,
								Pavel
-- 
http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-17 23:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 159+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CGME20220113122302epcas5p1d45c0714fe286f8f91d0f28c3fad86e4@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11 ` [PATCH 00/23] Add support for Tesla Full Self-Driving (FSD) SoC Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11   ` Alim Akhtar
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122311epcas5p4b7c253b49dce3bd3580407fcf312e70e@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 01/23] dt-bindings: clock: Document FSD CMU bindings Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:40       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 12:40         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-14  5:48         ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-14  5:48           ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 23:33       ` Rob Herring
2022-01-13 23:33         ` Rob Herring
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122317epcas5p11937078e2701b319a13b29e044224ec0@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 02/23] dt-bindings: clock: Add bindings definitions for FSD CMU blocks Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122324epcas5p105c53b448b5801813a02a88c6107a2f3@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 03/23] clk: samsung: fsd: Add initial clock support Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:49       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 12:49         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-14  6:16         ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-14  6:16           ` Alim Akhtar
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122330epcas5p46ae5cd30950b1d9126479231dcf5da49@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 04/23] clk: samsung: fsd: Add cmu_peric block clock information Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:55       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 12:55         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-14  6:30         ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-14  6:30           ` Alim Akhtar
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122334epcas5p2d5958c77b0635e848f81ed2c5c98cdd5@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 05/23] clk: samsung: fsd: Add cmu_fsys0 " Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122338epcas5p17ad3a31077b98388c0a6779904ee651e@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 06/23] clk: samsung: fsd: Add cmu_fsys1 " Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122343epcas5p23831143e4e8fb92be8ad362f4817c03b@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 07/23] clk: samsung: fsd: Add cmu_imem block " Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122346epcas5p41a7d6712c07544e99795ef5465f1f106@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 08/23] clk: samsung: fsd: Add cmu_mfc " Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122351epcas5p45f49a559af9f6d0c6ba573594f95561d@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 09/23] clk: samsung: fsd: Add cam_csi " Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122354epcas5p19e5cebe9e85e9ba1758fa0b9d7d1ef75@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 10/23] dt-bindings: pinctrl: samsung: Add compatible for Tesla FSD SoC Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:27       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 12:27         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-14  5:44         ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-14  5:44           ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-14  7:49           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-14  7:49             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-14  8:38             ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-14  8:38               ` Alim Akhtar
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122400epcas5p34363ba8f477b4c273d601d0b64324afa@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 11/23] pinctrl: samsung: add FSD SoC specific data Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:57       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 12:57         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-16 12:05       ` Linus Walleij
2022-01-16 12:05         ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122404epcas5p4aa1c3ac09510eb55cce5fdd0791993a6@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 12/23] dt-bindings: add vendor prefix for Tesla Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:58       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 12:58         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-14  7:10         ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-14  7:10           ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-16 12:09       ` Linus Walleij
2022-01-16 12:09         ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122408epcas5p45053d1bf0acf2d8233a98b6c1abab6eb@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 13/23] dt-bindings: arm: add Tesla FSD ARM SoC Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:33       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 12:33         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-14 16:57         ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-14 16:57           ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-14 17:29           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-14 17:29             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-17 13:26             ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-17 13:26               ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-17 14:14               ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-01-17 14:14                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-01-17 15:00                 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-17 15:00                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-17 20:41                   ` Olof Johansson
2022-01-17 20:41                     ` Olof Johansson
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122413epcas5p46cb2cafb73936c423017240f98f72845@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 14/23] arm64: dts: fsd: Add initial device tree support Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 13:16       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 13:16         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 14:23         ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-01-13 14:23           ` Arnd Bergmann
2022-01-14  8:13           ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-14  8:13             ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-14  2:08       ` kernel test robot
2022-01-14  2:08         ` kernel test robot
2022-01-14  2:08         ` kernel test robot
2022-01-14  2:45       ` Rob Herring
2022-01-14  2:45         ` Rob Herring
2022-01-15 15:31         ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-15 15:31           ` Alim Akhtar
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122417epcas5p47398a5190cdf4c574c6f1762918b549f@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 15/23] arm64: dts: fsd: Add initial pinctrl support Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 13:19       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 13:19         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-17 13:44         ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-17 13:44           ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-17 13:50           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-17 13:50             ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-18 14:58             ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-18 14:58               ` Alim Akhtar
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122421epcas5p1af8422fc992801ced57e0439b48ad08e@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 16/23] arm64: defconfig: Enable Tesla FSD SoC Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122427epcas5p1885d8b3b735e8f127b6694a309796e5a@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 17/23] Documentation: bindings: Add fsd spi compatible in dt-bindings document Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 13:21       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 13:21         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 13:24       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 13:24         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-14  7:17         ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-14  7:17           ` Alim Akhtar
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122435epcas5p18e6a2699f193b9e1287588278a570235@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 18/23] spi: s3c64xx: Add spi port configuration for Tesla FSD SoC Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:59       ` Mark Brown
2022-01-13 12:59         ` Mark Brown
2022-01-14  7:15         ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-14  7:15           ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 13:28       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 13:28         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-16 12:12       ` Linus Walleij
2022-01-16 12:12         ` Linus Walleij
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122440epcas5p4651d7cb2fc6d6a70fd5eaab5eadcf996@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 19/23] arm64: dts: fsd: Add SPI device nodes Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 13:30       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 13:30         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122447epcas5p266d44c8df143229d22dfa700c285a786@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 20/23] dt-bindings: iio: adc: exynos-adc: Add ADC-V3 variant Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 13:32       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 13:32         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-17  9:47         ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-01-17  9:47           ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-01-17 12:42           ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-17 12:42             ` Alim Akhtar
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122452epcas5p201a3a87d0e9c0e9f449a90ed62de1f1c@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 21/23] iio: adc: exynos-adc: Add support for ADC V3 controller Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-16 11:19       ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-01-16 11:19         ` Jonathan Cameron
2022-01-17 12:20         ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-17 12:20           ` Alim Akhtar
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122456epcas5p35f6406ab03af58d2e56b0b7304d4d002@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 22/23] arm64: dts: fsd: Add ADC device tree node Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 13:33       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 13:33         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
     [not found]   ` <CGME20220113122502epcas5p37747b0c5c242c0571d294b9245963a1c@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2022-01-13 12:11     ` [PATCH 23/23] clocksource: exynos_mct: Add support for handling three clusters Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 12:11       ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-13 13:36       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 13:36         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 12:31   ` [PATCH 00/23] Add support for Tesla Full Self-Driving (FSD) SoC Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 12:31     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-13 18:53     ` Olof Johansson
2022-01-13 18:53       ` Olof Johansson
2022-01-14  5:41     ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-14  5:41       ` Alim Akhtar
2022-01-14  7:34       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-14  7:34         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2022-01-16  9:23   ` Pavel Machek
2022-01-16  9:23     ` Pavel Machek
2022-01-17 20:53     ` Olof Johansson
2022-01-17 20:53       ` Olof Johansson
2022-01-17 23:10       ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2022-01-17 23:10         ` Pavel Machek

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