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From: Adam Manzanares <a.manzanares@samsung.com>
To: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Cc: "Luis Chamberlain" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	"Chaitanya Kulkarni" <chaitanyak@nvidia.com>,
	"Mikulas Patocka" <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Javier González" <javier@javigon.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	"msnitzer@redhat.com >> msnitzer@redhat.com"
	<msnitzer@redhat.com>, "Bart Van Assche" <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	"martin.petersen@oracle.com >> Martin K. Petersen"
	<martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	"roland@purestorage.com" <roland@purestorage.com>,
	"Hannes Reinecke" <hare@suse.de>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"Frederick.Knight@netapp.com" <Frederick.Knight@netapp.com>,
	"zach.brown@ni.com" <zach.brown@ni.com>,
	"osandov@fb.com" <osandov@fb.com>,
	"lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	"djwong@kernel.org" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	"josef@toxicpanda.com" <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	"clm@fb.com" <clm@fb.com>, "dsterba@suse.com" <dsterba@suse.com>,
	"tytso@mit.edu" <tytso@mit.edu>, "jack@suse.com" <jack@suse.com>,
	"Kanchan Joshi" <joshi.k@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 3/3] nvme: add the "debug" host driver
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 19:50:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220203195155.GB249665@bgt-140510-bm01> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220203165238.GA142129@dhcp-10-100-145-180.wdc.com>

On Thu, Feb 03, 2022 at 08:52:38AM -0800, Keith Busch wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 03, 2022 at 07:38:43AM -0800, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 02, 2022 at 08:00:12AM +0000, Chaitanya Kulkarni wrote:
> > > Mikulas,
> > > 
> > > On 2/1/22 10:33 AM, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > > > External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > This patch adds a new driver "nvme-debug". It uses memory as a backing
> > > > store and it is used to test the copy offload functionality.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > NVMe Controller specific memory backed features needs to go into
> > > QEMU which are targeted for testing and debugging, just like what
> > > we have done for NVMe ZNS QEMU support and not in kernel.
> > > 
> > > I don't see any special reason to make copy offload an exception.
> > 
> > One can instantiate scsi devices with qemu by using fake scsi devices,
> > but one can also just use scsi_debug to do the same. I see both efforts
> > as desirable, so long as someone mantains this.
> > 
> > For instance, blktests uses scsi_debug for simplicity.
> > 
> > In the end you decide what you want to use.
> 
> Can we use the nvme-loop target instead?

I am advocating for this approach as well. It presentas a virtual nvme
controller already.

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From: Adam Manzanares <a.manzanares@samsung.com>
To: Keith Busch <kbusch@kernel.org>
Cc: "djwong@kernel.org" <djwong@kernel.org>,
	"linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org" <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
	"clm@fb.com" <clm@fb.com>,
	"dm-devel@redhat.com" <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	"osandov@fb.com" <osandov@fb.com>,
	"msnitzer@redhat.com >> msnitzer@redhat.com"
	<msnitzer@redhat.com>, Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>,
	"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Christoph Hellwig" <hch@lst.de>,
	"roland@purestorage.com" <roland@purestorage.com>,
	"zach.brown@ni.com" <zach.brown@ni.com>,
	"Chaitanya Kulkarni" <chaitanyak@nvidia.com>,
	"Javier González" <javier@javigon.com>,
	"josef@toxicpanda.com" <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Mikulas Patocka" <mpatocka@redhat.com>,
	"dsterba@suse.com" <dsterba@suse.com>,
	"Frederick.Knight@netapp.com" <Frederick.Knight@netapp.com>,
	"Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>, "tytso@mit.edu" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	"Kanchan Joshi" <joshi.k@samsung.com>,
	"martin.petersen@oracle.com >> Martin K. Petersen"
	<martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	"Luis Chamberlain" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
	"jack@suse.com" <jack@suse.com>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<lsf-pc@lists.linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [dm-devel] [RFC PATCH 3/3] nvme: add the "debug" host driver
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 19:50:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220203195155.GB249665@bgt-140510-bm01> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220203165238.GA142129@dhcp-10-100-145-180.wdc.com>

On Thu, Feb 03, 2022 at 08:52:38AM -0800, Keith Busch wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 03, 2022 at 07:38:43AM -0800, Luis Chamberlain wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 02, 2022 at 08:00:12AM +0000, Chaitanya Kulkarni wrote:
> > > Mikulas,
> > > 
> > > On 2/1/22 10:33 AM, Mikulas Patocka wrote:
> > > > External email: Use caution opening links or attachments
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > This patch adds a new driver "nvme-debug". It uses memory as a backing
> > > > store and it is used to test the copy offload functionality.
> > > > 
> > > > Signed-off-by: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > NVMe Controller specific memory backed features needs to go into
> > > QEMU which are targeted for testing and debugging, just like what
> > > we have done for NVMe ZNS QEMU support and not in kernel.
> > > 
> > > I don't see any special reason to make copy offload an exception.
> > 
> > One can instantiate scsi devices with qemu by using fake scsi devices,
> > but one can also just use scsi_debug to do the same. I see both efforts
> > as desirable, so long as someone mantains this.
> > 
> > For instance, blktests uses scsi_debug for simplicity.
> > 
> > In the end you decide what you want to use.
> 
> Can we use the nvme-loop target instead?

I am advocating for this approach as well. It presentas a virtual nvme
controller already.


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Thread overview: 183+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
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2022-01-27  7:14 ` [LSF/MM/BFP ATTEND] [LSF/MM/BFP TOPIC] Storage: Copy Offload Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-01-28 19:59   ` Adam Manzanares
2022-01-28 19:59     ` [dm-devel] " Adam Manzanares
2022-01-31 11:49     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2022-01-31 11:49       ` [dm-devel] " Johannes Thumshirn
2022-01-31 19:03   ` Bart Van Assche
2022-01-31 19:03     ` [dm-devel] " Bart Van Assche
2022-02-01  1:54   ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-01  1:54     ` [dm-devel] " Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-01 10:21   ` Javier González
2022-02-01 18:31     ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] NVMe copy offload patches Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-01 18:31       ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-01 18:32       ` [RFC PATCH 1/3] block: add copy offload support Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-01 18:32         ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-01 19:18         ` Bart Van Assche
2022-02-01 19:18           ` [dm-devel] " Bart Van Assche
2022-02-03 18:50           ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-03 18:50             ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-03 20:11             ` Keith Busch
2022-02-03 20:11               ` [dm-devel] " Keith Busch
2022-02-03 22:49             ` Bart Van Assche
2022-02-03 22:49               ` [dm-devel] " Bart Van Assche
2022-02-04 12:09               ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-04 12:09                 ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-04 13:34                 ` Jens Axboe
2022-02-04 13:34                   ` [dm-devel] " Jens Axboe
2022-02-02 16:21         ` Keith Busch
2022-02-02 16:21           ` [dm-devel] " Keith Busch
2022-02-02 16:40           ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-02 16:40             ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-02 18:40           ` Knight, Frederick
2022-02-02 18:40             ` [dm-devel] " Knight, Frederick
2022-02-01 18:33       ` [RFC PATCH 2/3] nvme: " Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-01 18:33         ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-01 19:18         ` Bart Van Assche
2022-02-01 19:18           ` [dm-devel] " Bart Van Assche
2022-02-01 19:25           ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-01 19:25             ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-01 18:33       ` [RFC PATCH 3/3] nvme: add the "debug" host driver Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-01 18:33         ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-01 21:32         ` kernel test robot
2022-02-02  6:01         ` Adam Manzanares
2022-02-02  6:01           ` [dm-devel] " Adam Manzanares
2022-02-03 16:06           ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-03 16:06             ` [dm-devel] " Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-03 16:15             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-03 16:15               ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-03 19:34               ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-03 19:34                 ` [dm-devel] " Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-03 19:46                 ` Adam Manzanares
2022-02-03 19:46                   ` [dm-devel] " Adam Manzanares
2022-02-03 20:57                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-03 20:57                   ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-03 22:52                   ` Adam Manzanares
2022-02-03 22:52                     ` [dm-devel] " Adam Manzanares
2022-02-04  3:00                   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-04  3:00                     ` [dm-devel] " Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-04  3:05             ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-04  3:05               ` [dm-devel] " Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-02  7:23         ` kernel test robot
2022-02-02  7:23           ` kernel test robot
2022-02-02  8:00         ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-02  8:00           ` [dm-devel] " Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-02 12:38           ` Klaus Jensen
2022-02-02 12:38             ` [dm-devel] " Klaus Jensen
2022-02-03 15:38           ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-03 15:38             ` [dm-devel] " Luis Chamberlain
2022-02-03 16:52             ` Keith Busch
2022-02-03 16:52               ` [dm-devel] " Keith Busch
2022-02-03 19:50               ` Adam Manzanares [this message]
2022-02-03 19:50                 ` Adam Manzanares
2022-02-04  3:12                 ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-04  3:12                   ` [dm-devel] " Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-04  6:28                   ` Damien Le Moal
2022-02-04  6:28                     ` [dm-devel] " Damien Le Moal
2022-02-04  7:58                     ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-04  7:58                       ` [dm-devel] " Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-04  8:24                       ` Javier González
2022-02-04  8:24                         ` [dm-devel] " Javier González
2022-02-04  9:58                         ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-04  9:58                           ` [dm-devel] " Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-02-04 11:34                           ` Javier González
2022-02-04 11:34                             ` [dm-devel] " Javier González
2022-02-04 14:15                           ` Hannes Reinecke
2022-02-04 14:15                             ` [dm-devel] " Hannes Reinecke
2022-02-04 14:24                             ` Keith Busch
2022-02-04 14:24                               ` [dm-devel] " Keith Busch
2022-02-04 16:01                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-04 16:01                               ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2022-02-04 19:41       ` [RFC PATCH 0/3] NVMe copy offload patches Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-04 19:41         ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
     [not found]         ` <CGME20220207141901epcas5p162ec2387815be7a1fd67ce0ab7082119@epcas5p1.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13           ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Add Copy offload support Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07 14:13             ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
     [not found]             ` <CGME20220207141908epcas5p4f270c89fc32434ea8b525fa973098231@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13               ` [PATCH v2 01/10] block: make bio_map_kern() non static Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07 14:13                 ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
     [not found]             ` <CGME20220207141913epcas5p4d41cb549b7cca1ede5c7a66bbd110da0@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13               ` [PATCH v2 02/10] block: Introduce queue limits for copy-offload support Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07 14:13                 ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-08  7:01                 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-02-08  7:01                   ` [dm-devel] " Damien Le Moal
2022-02-08 18:43                   ` Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-08 18:43                     ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
     [not found]             ` <CGME20220207141918epcas5p4f9badc0c3f3f0913f091c850d2d3bd81@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13               ` [PATCH v2 03/10] block: Add copy offload support infrastructure Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07 14:13                 ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07 22:45                 ` kernel test robot
2022-02-07 22:45                   ` kernel test robot
2022-02-07 22:45                   ` [dm-devel] " kernel test robot
2022-02-07 23:26                 ` kernel test robot
2022-02-07 23:26                   ` kernel test robot
2022-02-07 23:26                   ` [dm-devel] " kernel test robot
2022-02-08  7:21                 ` Damien Le Moal
2022-02-08  7:21                   ` [dm-devel] " Damien Le Moal
2022-02-09 10:22                   ` Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-09 10:22                     ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
     [not found]             ` <CGME20220207141924epcas5p26ad9cf5de732224f408aded12ed0a577@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13               ` [PATCH v2 04/10] block: Introduce a new ioctl for copy Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07 14:13                 ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-09  3:39                 ` kernel test robot
2022-02-09  3:39                   ` kernel test robot
2022-02-09  3:39                   ` kernel test robot
     [not found]             ` <CGME20220207141930epcas5p2bcbff65f78ad1dede64648d73ddb3770@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13               ` [PATCH v2 05/10] block: add emulation " Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07 14:13                 ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-08  3:20                 ` kernel test robot
2022-02-08  3:20                   ` kernel test robot
2022-02-08  3:20                   ` [dm-devel] " kernel test robot
2022-02-16 13:32                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-16 13:32                   ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-17 13:18                   ` Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-17 13:18                     ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
     [not found]             ` <CGME20220207141937epcas5p2bd57ae35056c69b3e2f9ee2348d6af19@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13               ` [PATCH v2 06/10] nvme: add copy support Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07 14:13                 ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-10  7:08                 ` kernel test robot
2022-02-10  7:08                   ` kernel test robot
2022-02-10  7:08                   ` [dm-devel] " kernel test robot
     [not found]             ` <CGME20220207141942epcas5p4bda894a5833513c9211dcecc7928a951@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13               ` [PATCH v2 07/10] nvmet: add copy command support for bdev and file ns Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07 14:13                 ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07 18:10                 ` kernel test robot
2022-02-07 18:10                   ` kernel test robot
2022-02-07 18:10                   ` [dm-devel] " kernel test robot
2022-02-07 20:12                 ` kernel test robot
2022-02-07 20:12                   ` kernel test robot
2022-02-07 20:12                   ` [dm-devel] " kernel test robot
2022-02-10  8:31                 ` kernel test robot
2022-02-10  8:31                   ` kernel test robot
2022-02-10  8:31                   ` [dm-devel] " kernel test robot
     [not found]             ` <CGME20220207141948epcas5p4534f6bdc5a1e2e676d7d09c04f8b4a5b@epcas5p4.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13               ` [PATCH v2 08/10] dm: Add support for copy offload Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07 14:13                 ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-16 13:51                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-16 13:51                   ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-24 12:42                   ` Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-24 12:42                     ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-25  9:12                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-02-25  9:12                       ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
     [not found]             ` <CGME20220207141953epcas5p32ccc3c0bbe642cea074edefcc32302a5@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13               ` [PATCH v2 09/10] dm: Enable copy offload for dm-linear target Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07 14:13                 ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
     [not found]             ` <CGME20220207141958epcas5p25f1cd06726217696d13c2dfbea010565@epcas5p2.samsung.com>
2022-02-07 14:13               ` [PATCH v2 10/10] dm kcopyd: use copy offload support Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07 14:13                 ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07  9:57     ` [LSF/MM/BFP ATTEND] [LSF/MM/BFP TOPIC] Storage: Copy Offload Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-07  9:57       ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-02  5:57   ` Kanchan Joshi
2022-02-02  5:57     ` [dm-devel] " Kanchan Joshi
2022-02-07 10:45   ` David Disseldorp
2022-02-07 10:45     ` [dm-devel] " David Disseldorp
2022-03-01 17:34   ` Nikos Tsironis
2022-03-01 17:34     ` [dm-devel] " Nikos Tsironis
2022-03-01 21:32     ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2022-03-03 18:36       ` Nikos Tsironis
2022-03-03 18:36         ` [dm-devel] " Nikos Tsironis
2022-03-08 20:48       ` Nikos Tsironis
2022-03-08 20:48         ` [dm-devel] " Nikos Tsironis
2022-03-09  8:51         ` Mikulas Patocka
2022-03-09  8:51           ` [dm-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2022-03-09 15:49           ` Nikos Tsironis
2022-03-09 15:49             ` [dm-devel] " Nikos Tsironis
     [not found] <CGME20220209075901epcas5p3cff468deadd8ef836522f032bd4ed36c@epcas5p3.samsung.com>
2022-02-08 23:31 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] block: Add copy offload support infrastructure kernel test robot
2022-02-09  7:48   ` Dan Carpenter
2022-02-09  7:48   ` [dm-devel] " Dan Carpenter
2022-02-09  7:48   ` Dan Carpenter
2022-02-09 10:32   ` Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-10  6:13     ` Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-09 10:32     ` [dm-devel] " Nitesh Shetty
2022-02-10 22:49 [PATCH v2 07/10] nvmet: add copy command support for bdev and file ns kernel test robot
2022-02-11  7:52 ` Dan Carpenter
2022-02-11  7:52 ` [dm-devel] " Dan Carpenter
2022-02-11  7:52 ` Dan Carpenter

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