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From: Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>
To: Dave Gerlach <d-gerlach@ti.com>
Cc: Andrew Davis <afd@ti.com>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Santosh Shilimkar <ssantosh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Tero Kristo <kristo@kernel.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vignesh Raghavendra <vigneshr@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: ti,sci: Add ti,ctx-memory-region property
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2022 08:36:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220423133648.jlkeyfq7gjbwij5l@bonelike> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2528be71-ca3f-566b-4769-36063c98ee0e@ti.com>

On 14:10-20220422, Dave Gerlach wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 4/22/22 14:02, Andrew Davis wrote:
> > On 4/21/22 3:36 PM, Dave Gerlach wrote:
> >> Add documentation for the ti,ctx-memory-region property which is a
> >> phandle to a reserved-memory carveout to be used by the ti_sci driver
> >> storage of low power mode memory context. This is optional for normal
> >> system operation but required to enabled suspend-to-mem usage of Deep
> >> Sleep state.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Dave Gerlach <d-gerlach@ti.com>
> >> ---
> >>   .../devicetree/bindings/arm/keystone/ti,sci.yaml         | 9 +++++++++
> >>   1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/keystone/ti,sci.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/keystone/ti,sci.yaml
> >> index 34f5f877d444..ec88aa88a2a0 100644
> >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/keystone/ti,sci.yaml
> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/keystone/ti,sci.yaml
> >> @@ -61,6 +61,15 @@ properties:
> >>     mboxes:
> >>       minItems: 2
> >>   
> >> +  ti,ctx-memory-region:
> >> +    description:
> >> +      Phandle to the reserved memory node to be associated with the
> >> +      ti-sci device, to be used for saving low power context. The
> >> +      reserved memory node should be a carveout node, and should
> >> +      be defined as per the bindings in
> >> +      Documentation/devicetree/bindings/reserved-memory/reserved-memory.yaml
> >> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> >> +
> > 
> > 
> > Why does this have to be yet another reserved carveout region,
> > should be dynamically allocated.
> > 
> 
> This must be a fixed address in order to support other low power modes
> which have not yet been introduced.

Please elaborate the need - Many of our devices, esp the AM62 class ones
are memory constrained devices - LPM states are controlled entry states, why
should we loose a chunk of DDR in operational state while waiting for
the suspend or idle state to be invoked?
OR, is the argument is as follows:
- need a guarenteed memory for me to enter low power and not be
  dependent on availability on attempt.
- Latency overhead of allocation during a "hot path" such as cpu idle,
  this is completely unacceptable?

  or something of that form.. please elaborate?
-- 
Regards,
Nishanth Menon
Key (0xDDB5849D1736249D) / Fingerprint: F8A2 8693 54EB 8232 17A3  1A34 DDB5 849D 1736 249D

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>
To: Dave Gerlach <d-gerlach@ti.com>
Cc: Andrew Davis <afd@ti.com>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Santosh Shilimkar <ssantosh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Tero Kristo <kristo@kernel.org>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Vignesh Raghavendra <vigneshr@ti.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: ti,sci: Add ti,ctx-memory-region property
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2022 08:36:48 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220423133648.jlkeyfq7gjbwij5l@bonelike> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2528be71-ca3f-566b-4769-36063c98ee0e@ti.com>

On 14:10-20220422, Dave Gerlach wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On 4/22/22 14:02, Andrew Davis wrote:
> > On 4/21/22 3:36 PM, Dave Gerlach wrote:
> >> Add documentation for the ti,ctx-memory-region property which is a
> >> phandle to a reserved-memory carveout to be used by the ti_sci driver
> >> storage of low power mode memory context. This is optional for normal
> >> system operation but required to enabled suspend-to-mem usage of Deep
> >> Sleep state.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Dave Gerlach <d-gerlach@ti.com>
> >> ---
> >>   .../devicetree/bindings/arm/keystone/ti,sci.yaml         | 9 +++++++++
> >>   1 file changed, 9 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/keystone/ti,sci.yaml b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/keystone/ti,sci.yaml
> >> index 34f5f877d444..ec88aa88a2a0 100644
> >> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/keystone/ti,sci.yaml
> >> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/keystone/ti,sci.yaml
> >> @@ -61,6 +61,15 @@ properties:
> >>     mboxes:
> >>       minItems: 2
> >>   
> >> +  ti,ctx-memory-region:
> >> +    description:
> >> +      Phandle to the reserved memory node to be associated with the
> >> +      ti-sci device, to be used for saving low power context. The
> >> +      reserved memory node should be a carveout node, and should
> >> +      be defined as per the bindings in
> >> +      Documentation/devicetree/bindings/reserved-memory/reserved-memory.yaml
> >> +    $ref: /schemas/types.yaml#/definitions/string
> >> +
> > 
> > 
> > Why does this have to be yet another reserved carveout region,
> > should be dynamically allocated.
> > 
> 
> This must be a fixed address in order to support other low power modes
> which have not yet been introduced.

Please elaborate the need - Many of our devices, esp the AM62 class ones
are memory constrained devices - LPM states are controlled entry states, why
should we loose a chunk of DDR in operational state while waiting for
the suspend or idle state to be invoked?
OR, is the argument is as follows:
- need a guarenteed memory for me to enter low power and not be
  dependent on availability on attempt.
- Latency overhead of allocation during a "hot path" such as cpu idle,
  this is completely unacceptable?

  or something of that form.. please elaborate?
-- 
Regards,
Nishanth Menon
Key (0xDDB5849D1736249D) / Fingerprint: F8A2 8693 54EB 8232 17A3  1A34 DDB5 849D 1736 249D

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-04-23 13:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-21 20:36 [PATCH 0/6] firmware: ti_sci: Introduce system suspend support Dave Gerlach
2022-04-21 20:36 ` Dave Gerlach
2022-04-21 20:36 ` [PATCH 1/6] dt-bindings: ti,sci: Add ti,ctx-memory-region property Dave Gerlach
2022-04-21 20:36   ` Dave Gerlach
2022-04-22 19:02   ` Andrew Davis
2022-04-22 19:02     ` Andrew Davis
2022-04-22 19:02     ` Andrew Davis
2022-04-22 19:10     ` Dave Gerlach
2022-04-22 19:10       ` Dave Gerlach
2022-04-23 13:36       ` Nishanth Menon [this message]
2022-04-23 13:36         ` Nishanth Menon
2022-04-25 20:24         ` Dave Gerlach
2022-04-25 20:24           ` Dave Gerlach
2022-04-26  3:28           ` Nishanth Menon
2022-04-26  3:28             ` Nishanth Menon
2022-05-02 20:14   ` Rob Herring
2022-05-02 20:14     ` Rob Herring
2022-04-21 20:36 ` [PATCH 2/6] dt-bindings: ti,sci: Add lpm region and ti,lpm-firmware-name Dave Gerlach
2022-04-21 20:36   ` [PATCH 2/6] dt-bindings: ti, sci: Add lpm region and ti, lpm-firmware-name Dave Gerlach
2022-05-02 20:15   ` [PATCH 2/6] dt-bindings: ti,sci: Add lpm region and ti,lpm-firmware-name Rob Herring
2022-05-02 20:15     ` Rob Herring
2022-04-21 20:36 ` [PATCH 3/6] firmware: ti_sci: Introduce Power Management Ops Dave Gerlach
2022-04-21 20:36   ` Dave Gerlach
2022-04-21 20:36 ` [PATCH 4/6] firmware: ti_sci: Introduce ti,ctx-memory-region for reserved LPM memory Dave Gerlach
2022-04-21 20:36   ` [PATCH 4/6] firmware: ti_sci: Introduce ti, ctx-memory-region " Dave Gerlach
2022-04-21 20:36 ` [PATCH 5/6] firmware: ti_sci: Use dt provided fw name and address to load at suspend time Dave Gerlach
2022-04-21 20:36   ` Dave Gerlach
2022-04-21 20:36 ` [PATCH 6/6] firmware: ti_sci: Introduce prepare system suspend call Dave Gerlach
2022-04-21 20:36   ` Dave Gerlach

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