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From: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny@suse.com>
To: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev>
Cc: void@manifault.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	cgroups@vger.kernel.org, hannes@cmpxchg.org, kernel-team@fb.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	mhocko@kernel.org, shakeelb@google.com, tj@kernel.org,
	Richard Palethorpe <rpalethorpe@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] selftests: memcg: Expect no low events in unprotected sibling
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 17:54:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220518155444.GB22503@blackbody.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yn6pWPodGPlz+D8G@carbon>

Hi.

On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 11:54:16AM -0700, Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin@linux.dev> wrote:
> Hm, what are our plans here? Are we going to fix it soon-ish, or there
> is still no agreement on how to proceed?

Here are some of my ideas in random order so far and comments:

0) mask memory.events:low
-> not a real fix

1) don't do SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX roundup
-> won't solve sudden lift of protection

2) instead of SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX over-reclaim, do same under-reclaim
-> same problem as 1)

3) update children_low_usage transactionally (after reclaim round is done)
- ???

4) don't recursively distribute residual protection in the same reclaim round
- ???

5) iterate siblings from highest to lowest protection 
- not a solution

6) assign only >SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX of residuum
- need more info

I'm discouraged by possible complexity of 3) or 4), while 6) is what I'd
like to look more into.

HTH,
Michal


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Michal Koutný" <mkoutny-IBi9RG/b67k@public.gmane.org>
To: Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin-fxUVXftIFDnyG1zEObXtfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: void-gq6j2QGBifHby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org,
	akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org,
	cgroups-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	hannes-druUgvl0LCNAfugRpC6u6w@public.gmane.org,
	kernel-team-b10kYP2dOMg@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	mhocko-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	shakeelb-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org,
	tj-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	Richard Palethorpe <rpalethorpe-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] selftests: memcg: Expect no low events in unprotected sibling
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 17:54:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20220518155444.GB22503@blackbody.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Yn6pWPodGPlz+D8G@carbon>

Hi.

On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 11:54:16AM -0700, Roman Gushchin <roman.gushchin-fxUVXftIFDnyG1zEObXtfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> Hm, what are our plans here? Are we going to fix it soon-ish, or there
> is still no agreement on how to proceed?

Here are some of my ideas in random order so far and comments:

0) mask memory.events:low
-> not a real fix

1) don't do SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX roundup
-> won't solve sudden lift of protection

2) instead of SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX over-reclaim, do same under-reclaim
-> same problem as 1)

3) update children_low_usage transactionally (after reclaim round is done)
- ???

4) don't recursively distribute residual protection in the same reclaim round
- ???

5) iterate siblings from highest to lowest protection 
- not a solution

6) assign only >SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX of residuum
- need more info

I'm discouraged by possible complexity of 3) or 4), while 6) is what I'd
like to look more into.

HTH,
Michal


  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-18 15:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-04-23 15:56 [PATCH v2 0/5] Fix bugs in memcontroller cgroup tests David Vernet
2022-04-23 15:56 ` David Vernet
2022-04-23 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] cgroups: Refactor children cgroups in memcg tests David Vernet
2022-04-26  1:56   ` Roman Gushchin
2022-04-26  1:56     ` Roman Gushchin
2022-04-23 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] cgroup: Account for memory_recursiveprot in test_memcg_low() David Vernet
2022-04-23 15:56   ` David Vernet
2022-04-27 14:09   ` Michal Koutný
2022-04-27 14:09     ` Michal Koutný
2022-04-29  1:03     ` David Vernet
2022-04-29  1:03       ` David Vernet
2022-04-29  9:26       ` Michal Koutný
2022-04-29  9:26         ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-06 16:40         ` David Vernet
2022-05-06 16:40           ` David Vernet
2022-05-09 15:09           ` Johannes Weiner
2022-05-09 15:09             ` Johannes Weiner
2022-05-10  0:44             ` Andrew Morton
2022-05-10  0:44               ` Andrew Morton
2022-05-10 17:43               ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-10 17:43                 ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-11 17:53                 ` Johannes Weiner
2022-05-11 17:53                   ` Johannes Weiner
2022-05-12 17:27                   ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-12 17:27                     ` Michal Koutný
2022-04-23 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] cgroup: Account for memory_localevents in test_memcg_oom_group_leaf_events() David Vernet
2022-04-23 15:56   ` David Vernet
2022-04-23 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] cgroup: Removing racy check in test_memcg_sock() David Vernet
2022-04-23 15:56   ` David Vernet
2022-04-23 15:56 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] cgroup: Fix racy check in alloc_pagecache_max_30M() helper function David Vernet
2022-04-23 15:56   ` David Vernet
2022-05-12 17:04 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] Fix bugs in memcontroller cgroup tests Michal Koutný
2022-05-12 17:04   ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-12 17:30   ` David Vernet
2022-05-12 17:30     ` David Vernet
2022-05-12 17:44     ` David Vernet
2022-05-12 17:44       ` David Vernet
2022-05-13 17:18       ` [PATCH 0/4] memcontrol selftests fixups Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 17:18         ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 17:18         ` [PATCH 1/4] selftests: memcg: Fix compilation Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 17:18           ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 17:40           ` David Vernet
2022-05-13 17:40             ` David Vernet
2022-05-13 18:53           ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-13 18:53             ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-13 19:09             ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-13 19:09               ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-13 17:18         ` [PATCH 2/4] selftests: memcg: Expect no low events in unprotected sibling Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 17:18           ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 17:42           ` David Vernet
2022-05-13 17:42             ` David Vernet
2022-05-13 18:54           ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-18 15:54             ` Michal Koutný [this message]
2022-05-18 15:54               ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 17:18         ` [PATCH 3/4] selftests: memcg: Adjust expected reclaim values of protected cgroups Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 17:18           ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 18:52           ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-13 18:52             ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-13 17:18         ` [PATCH 4/4] selftests: memcg: Remove protection from top level memcg Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 17:18           ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 18:59           ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-13 18:59             ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-18  0:24             ` Andrew Morton
2022-05-18  0:24               ` Andrew Morton
2022-05-18  0:52               ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-18  0:52                 ` Roman Gushchin
2022-05-18 15:44                 ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-18 15:44                   ` Michal Koutný
2022-05-13 19:14           ` David Vernet
2022-05-13 19:14             ` David Vernet
2022-05-18 15:40 [PATCH 0/4] memcontrol selftests fixups Michal Koutný
2022-05-18 15:40 ` [PATCH 2/4] selftests: memcg: Expect no low events in unprotected sibling Michal Koutný
2022-05-18 15:40   ` Michal Koutný

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