* [PATCH v9 1/3] x86/PCI: Add kernel cmdline options to use/ignore E820 reserved regions
2022-05-19 15:21 [PATCH v9 0/3] x86/PCI: Ignore E820 reservations for bridge windows on future systems Hans de Goede
@ 2022-05-19 15:21 ` Hans de Goede
2022-05-19 15:21 ` [PATCH v9 2/3] x86/PCI: Add DMI quirks to ignore E820 reserved regions on some systems Hans de Goede
2022-05-19 15:21 ` [PATCH v9 3/3] x86/PCI: Ignore E820 reserved regions for bridge windows on future systems Hans de Goede
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From: Hans de Goede @ 2022-05-19 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rafael J . Wysocki, Mika Westerberg, Krzysztof Wilczyński,
Bjorn Helgaas, Myron Stowe, Juha-Pekka Heikkila, Thomas Gleixner,
Ingo Molnar, Borislav Petkov, H . Peter Anvin
Cc: Hans de Goede, Benoit Grégoire, Hui Wang, linux-acpi,
linux-pci, x86, linux-kernel, Rafael J . Wysocki
Some BIOS-es contain bugs where they add addresses which are already
used in some other manner to the PCI host bridge window returned by
the ACPI _CRS method. To avoid this Linux by default excludes
E820 reserved regions when allocating addresses since 2010, see:
commit 4dc2287c1805 ("x86: avoid E820 regions when allocating address
space").
Recently (2019) some systems have shown-up with E820 reserved regions
which cover the entire _CRS returned PCI bridge memory window, causing
all attempts to assign memory to PCI BARs which have not been setup by
the BIOS to fail. For example here are the relevant dmesg bits from
a Lenovo IdeaPad 3 15IIL 81WE:
[mem 0x000000004bc50000-0x00000000cfffffff] reserved
pci_bus 0000:00: root bus resource [mem 0x65400000-0xbfffffff window]
pci 0000:00:15.0: BAR 0: no space for [mem size 0x00001000 64bit]
pci 0000:00:15.0: BAR 0: failed to assign [mem size 0x00001000 64bit]
Add a pci=no_e820 kernel cmdline option for debugging/workaround
purposes. Also add a matching pci=use_e820 option to re-enable
the use of E820 reserved regions when they end up being disabled
by default by further patches in this patch-set.
Cc: Benoit Grégoire <benoitg@coeus.ca>
Cc: Hui Wang <hui.wang@canonical.com>
Acked-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
Signed-off-by: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
---
Changes in v9:
- Split making use_e820=false the default for BIOS year >= 2023 out into
a separate patch
- Split the addition of DMI quirks out into a separate patch
(leaving just the kernel cmdline option)
Changes in v8:
- Change the cut-off for no longer excluding E820 reservations from
the bridge window to BIOS year >= 2023 so that this only applies to
upcoming systems.
- Use DMI quirks for existing systems on which excluding E820
reservations from the _CRS returned bridge window is an issue.
Changes in v7:
- Re-add the pci=use_e820 and pci=no_e820 kernel cmdline options since it
turns out that some newer laptops still need pci=use_e820
- Add DMI quirks for known newer laptops which need pci=use_e820
Changes in v6:
- Remove the possibility to change the behavior from the commandline
because of worries that users may use this to paper over other problems
Changes in v5:
- Drop mention of Windows behavior from the commit msg, replace with a
reference to the specs
- Improve documentation in Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
- Reword the big comment added, use "PCI host bridge window" in it and drop
all refences to Windows
Changes in v4:
- Rewrap the big comment block to fit in 80 columns
- Add Rafael's Acked-by
- Add Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
Changes in v3:
- Commit msg tweaks (drop dmesg timestamps, typo fix)
- Use "defined(CONFIG_...)" instead of "defined CONFIG_..."
- Add Mika's Reviewed-by
Changes in v2:
- Replace the per model DMI quirk approach with disabling E820 reservations
checking for all systems with a BIOS year >= 2018
- Add documentation for the new kernel-parameters to
Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
---
Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt | 9 +++++++++
arch/x86/include/asm/pci_x86.h | 2 ++
arch/x86/pci/acpi.c | 16 ++++++++++++++--
arch/x86/pci/common.c | 8 ++++++++
4 files changed, 33 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
diff --git a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
index 3f1cc5e317ed..2477b639d5c4 100644
--- a/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
+++ b/Documentation/admin-guide/kernel-parameters.txt
@@ -4066,6 +4066,15 @@
please report a bug.
nocrs [X86] Ignore PCI host bridge windows from ACPI.
If you need to use this, please report a bug.
+ use_e820 [X86] Use E820 reservations to exclude parts of
+ PCI host bridge windows. This is a workaround
+ for BIOS defects in host bridge _CRS methods.
+ If you need to use this, please report a bug to
+ <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>.
+ no_e820 [X86] Ignore E820 reservations for PCI host
+ bridge windows. This is the default on modern
+ hardware. If you need to use this, please report
+ a bug to <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>.
routeirq Do IRQ routing for all PCI devices.
This is normally done in pci_enable_device(),
so this option is a temporary workaround
diff --git a/arch/x86/include/asm/pci_x86.h b/arch/x86/include/asm/pci_x86.h
index a0627dfae541..ce3fd3311772 100644
--- a/arch/x86/include/asm/pci_x86.h
+++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/pci_x86.h
@@ -42,6 +42,8 @@ do { \
#define PCI_ROOT_NO_CRS 0x100000
#define PCI_NOASSIGN_BARS 0x200000
#define PCI_BIG_ROOT_WINDOW 0x400000
+#define PCI_USE_E820 0x800000
+#define PCI_NO_E820 0x1000000
extern unsigned int pci_probe;
extern unsigned long pirq_table_addr;
diff --git a/arch/x86/pci/acpi.c b/arch/x86/pci/acpi.c
index 562c81a51ea0..7bde3df68e4c 100644
--- a/arch/x86/pci/acpi.c
+++ b/arch/x86/pci/acpi.c
@@ -20,6 +20,7 @@ struct pci_root_info {
#endif
};
+static bool pci_use_e820 = true;
static bool pci_use_crs = true;
static bool pci_ignore_seg;
@@ -161,6 +162,15 @@ void __init pci_acpi_crs_quirks(void)
"if necessary, use \"pci=%s\" and report a bug\n",
pci_use_crs ? "Using" : "Ignoring",
pci_use_crs ? "nocrs" : "use_crs");
+
+ /* "pci=use_e820"/"pci=no_e820" on the kernel cmdline takes precedence */
+ if (pci_probe & PCI_NO_E820)
+ pci_use_e820 = false;
+ else if (pci_probe & PCI_USE_E820)
+ pci_use_e820 = true;
+
+ printk(KERN_INFO "PCI: %s E820 reservations for host bridge windows\n",
+ pci_use_e820 ? "Using" : "Ignoring");
}
#ifdef CONFIG_PCI_MMCONFIG
@@ -301,8 +311,10 @@ static int pci_acpi_root_prepare_resources(struct acpi_pci_root_info *ci)
status = acpi_pci_probe_root_resources(ci);
- resource_list_for_each_entry(entry, &ci->resources)
- remove_e820_regions(&device->dev, entry->res);
+ if (pci_use_e820) {
+ resource_list_for_each_entry(entry, &ci->resources)
+ remove_e820_regions(&device->dev, entry->res);
+ }
if (pci_use_crs) {
resource_list_for_each_entry_safe(entry, tmp, &ci->resources)
diff --git a/arch/x86/pci/common.c b/arch/x86/pci/common.c
index 9e1e6b8d8876..ddb798603201 100644
--- a/arch/x86/pci/common.c
+++ b/arch/x86/pci/common.c
@@ -595,6 +595,14 @@ char *__init pcibios_setup(char *str)
} else if (!strcmp(str, "nocrs")) {
pci_probe |= PCI_ROOT_NO_CRS;
return NULL;
+ } else if (!strcmp(str, "use_e820")) {
+ pci_probe |= PCI_USE_E820;
+ add_taint(TAINT_FIRMWARE_WORKAROUND, LOCKDEP_STILL_OK);
+ return NULL;
+ } else if (!strcmp(str, "no_e820")) {
+ pci_probe |= PCI_NO_E820;
+ add_taint(TAINT_FIRMWARE_WORKAROUND, LOCKDEP_STILL_OK);
+ return NULL;
#ifdef CONFIG_PHYS_ADDR_T_64BIT
} else if (!strcmp(str, "big_root_window")) {
pci_probe |= PCI_BIG_ROOT_WINDOW;
--
2.36.0
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2022-05-19 15:21 ` [PATCH v9 1/3] x86/PCI: Add kernel cmdline options to use/ignore E820 reserved regions Hans de Goede
@ 2022-05-19 15:21 ` Hans de Goede
2022-05-19 15:21 ` [PATCH v9 3/3] x86/PCI: Ignore E820 reserved regions for bridge windows on future systems Hans de Goede
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From: Hans de Goede @ 2022-05-19 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rafael J . Wysocki, Mika Westerberg, Krzysztof Wilczyński,
Bjorn Helgaas, Myron Stowe, Juha-Pekka Heikkila, Thomas Gleixner,
Ingo Molnar, Borislav Petkov, H . Peter Anvin
Cc: Hans de Goede, Benoit Grégoire, Hui Wang, linux-acpi,
linux-pci, x86, linux-kernel, Rafael J . Wysocki
Some BIOS-es contain bugs where they add addresses which are already
used in some other manner to the PCI host bridge window returned by
the ACPI _CRS method. To avoid this Linux by default excludes
E820 reserved regions when allocating addresses since 2010, see:
commit 4dc2287c1805 ("x86: avoid E820 regions when allocating address
space").
Recently (2019) some systems have shown-up with E820 reserved regions
which cover the entire _CRS returned PCI bridge memory window, causing
all attempts to assign memory to PCI BARs which have not been setup by
the BIOS to fail. For example here are the relevant dmesg bits from
a Lenovo IdeaPad 3 15IIL 81WE:
[mem 0x000000004bc50000-0x00000000cfffffff] reserved
pci_bus 0000:00: root bus resource [mem 0x65400000-0xbfffffff window]
pci 0000:00:15.0: BAR 0: no space for [mem size 0x00001000 64bit]
pci 0000:00:15.0: BAR 0: failed to assign [mem size 0x00001000 64bit]
Outright removing the code to remove E820 reserved regions when
allocating address space is known to cause regressions on various
existing systems.
Instead disable the removal of E820 reserved regions on models where
this is known to cause the above problem using DMI quirks.
BugLink: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206459
BugLink: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=214259
BugLink: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1868899
BugLink: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1871793
BugLink: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1878279
BugLink: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1880172
BugLink: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1884232
BugLink: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1921649
BugLink: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1931715
BugLink: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1932069
Cc: Benoit Grégoire <benoitg@coeus.ca>
Cc: Hui Wang <hui.wang@canonical.com>
Acked-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
Signed-off-by: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
---
Changes in v9:
- Split the addition of DMI quirks out into this new patch
- Add a DMI quirk for the TUXEDO Book XUX7 - Gen12
---
arch/x86/pci/acpi.c | 87 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 file changed, 87 insertions(+)
diff --git a/arch/x86/pci/acpi.c b/arch/x86/pci/acpi.c
index 7bde3df68e4c..b88bdfba7908 100644
--- a/arch/x86/pci/acpi.c
+++ b/arch/x86/pci/acpi.c
@@ -43,6 +43,13 @@ static int __init set_ignore_seg(const struct dmi_system_id *id)
return 0;
}
+static int __init set_no_e820(const struct dmi_system_id *id)
+{
+ printk(KERN_INFO "PCI: %s detected: ignoring e820 regions\n", id->ident);
+ pci_use_e820 = false;
+ return 0;
+}
+
static const struct dmi_system_id pci_crs_quirks[] __initconst = {
/* http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14183 */
{
@@ -137,6 +144,86 @@ static const struct dmi_system_id pci_crs_quirks[] __initconst = {
DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, "HP xw9300 Workstation"),
},
},
+
+ /*
+ * Most Lenovo models with "IIL" in their DMI_PRODUCT_VERSION have
+ * an E820 reservation which covers the entire _CRS returned 32 bit
+ * PCI bridge memory window, causing all attempts to assign memory to
+ * 32 bit PCI bars which have not been setup by the BIOS to fail.
+ * Specifically this often causes some of the I2C controllers to not
+ * work breaking touchpad support and/or this may cause issues when
+ * hotplugging thunderbolt connected devices.
+ *
+ * This DMI match entry covers the following DMI_PRODUCT_VERSION-s with
+ * an E820 reservation which covers the entire 32 bit bridge window:
+ * "IdeaPad 3 14IIL05", "IdeaPad 3 15IIL05", "IdeaPad 3 17IIL05",
+ * "IdeaPad 5 14IIL05", "IdeaPad 5 15IIL05",
+ * "IdeaPad Slim 7 14IIL05", "IdeaPad Slim 7 15IIL05",
+ * "Lenovo BS145-15IIL",
+ * "Lenovo IdeaPad S145-15IIL", "Lenovo IdeaPad S340-14IIL",
+ * "Lenovo IdeaPad S340-15IIL", "Lenovo IdeaPad C340-15IIL",
+ * "Lenovo V14-IIL", "Lenovo V15-IIL", "Lenovo V17-IIL",
+ * "Lenovo Yoga S740-14IIL", "Lenovo Yoga C940-14IIL",
+ * "Yoga Slim 7 14IIL05", "Yoga Slim 7 15IIL05"
+ *
+ * On some of these the bridge's _CRS method *sometimes* (under unknown
+ * conditions) has a 64 bit [mem 0x4000000000-0x7fffffffff window].
+ * This avoids some of the issues, but even then there are still issues
+ * with assigning some 32 bit only BARs such as some Thunderbolt devs,
+ * the 00:1f.5 BIOS SPI controller and BAR6 of some nvidia gfx.
+ *
+ * This entry also covers the following DMI_PRODUCT_VERSION-s which do
+ * not need pci_use_e820=false. This quirk is a no-op for these models,
+ * because there is no overlap between E820 regions and _CRS windows:
+ * "IdeaPad Flex 5 14IIL05", "IdeaPad Flex 5 15IIL05",
+ * "Lenovo ThinkBook 14-IIL", "Lenovo ThinkBook 15-IIL",
+ * "Lenovo Yoga S940-14IIL"
+ *
+ * This entry fixes issues reported in the following bugs:
+ * https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=206459
+ * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1871793
+ * https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1868899
+ * https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1878279
+ * https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1880172
+ * https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1921649
+ * https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1931715
+ * https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1932069
+ */
+ {
+ .callback = set_no_e820,
+ .ident = "Lenovo *IIL* product version",
+ .matches = {
+ DMI_MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, "LENOVO"),
+ DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_VERSION, "IIL"),
+ },
+ },
+
+ /*
+ * The Acer Spin 5 (SP513-54N) has the same E820 reservation covering
+ * the entire _CRS 32 bit window issue as the Lenovo *IIL* models.
+ * https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1884232
+ */
+ {
+ .callback = set_no_e820,
+ .ident = "Acer Spin 5 (SP513-54N)",
+ .matches = {
+ DMI_MATCH(DMI_SYS_VENDOR, "Acer"),
+ DMI_MATCH(DMI_PRODUCT_NAME, "Spin SP513-54N"),
+ },
+ },
+
+ /*
+ * Clevo X170KM-G barebones have the same E820 reservation covering
+ * the entire _CRS 32 bit window issue as the Lenovo *IIL* models.
+ * https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=214259
+ */
+ {
+ .callback = set_no_e820,
+ .ident = "Clevo X170KM-G Barebone",
+ .matches = {
+ DMI_MATCH(DMI_BOARD_NAME, "X170KM-G"),
+ },
+ },
{}
};
--
2.36.0
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From: Hans de Goede @ 2022-05-19 15:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rafael J . Wysocki, Mika Westerberg, Krzysztof Wilczyński,
Bjorn Helgaas, Myron Stowe, Juha-Pekka Heikkila, Thomas Gleixner,
Ingo Molnar, Borislav Petkov, H . Peter Anvin
Cc: Hans de Goede, Benoit Grégoire, Hui Wang, linux-acpi,
linux-pci, x86, linux-kernel, Rafael J . Wysocki
Some BIOS-es contain bugs where they add addresses which are already
used in some other manner to the PCI host bridge window returned by
the ACPI _CRS method. To avoid this Linux by default excludes
E820 reserved regions when allocating addresses since 2010, see:
commit 4dc2287c1805 ("x86: avoid E820 regions when allocating address
space").
Recently (2019) some systems have shown-up with E820 reserved regions
which cover the entire _CRS returned PCI bridge memory window, causing
all attempts to assign memory to PCI BARs which have not been setup by
the BIOS to fail. For example here are the relevant dmesg bits from
a Lenovo IdeaPad 3 15IIL 81WE:
[mem 0x000000004bc50000-0x00000000cfffffff] reserved
pci_bus 0000:00: root bus resource [mem 0x65400000-0xbfffffff window]
pci 0000:00:15.0: BAR 0: no space for [mem size 0x00001000 64bit]
pci 0000:00:15.0: BAR 0: failed to assign [mem size 0x00001000 64bit]
The ACPI specifications appear to allow this new behavior:
The relationship between E820 and ACPI _CRS is not really very clear.
ACPI v6.3, sec 15, table 15-374, says AddressRangeReserved means:
This range of addresses is in use or reserved by the system and is
not to be included in the allocatable memory pool of the operating
system's memory manager.
and it may be used when:
The address range is in use by a memory-mapped system device.
Furthermore, sec 15.2 says:
Address ranges defined for baseboard memory-mapped I/O devices, such
as APICs, are returned as reserved.
A PCI host bridge qualifies as a baseboard memory-mapped I/O device,
and its apertures are in use and certainly should not be included in
the general allocatable pool, so the fact that some BIOS-es reports
the PCI aperture as "reserved" in E820 doesn't seem like a BIOS bug.
So it seems that removing/clipping E820 reserved regions from the PCI
host bridge windows is a mistake.
Outright removing the code that clips E820 entries is known to cause
regressions on various existing systems. Some examples of such systems:
Asus C523NA (Coral) Chromebook
Dell Precision T3500, for details see:
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16228
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 gen 2, for details see:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2029207
To avoid regressions stop clipping E820 entries on future systems
(DMI BIOS year >= 2023) only.
Quoting from:
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-pci/20220518220754.GA7911@bhelgaas/
The decision to do this is based on weighing to following pro/cons:
Without a date check, we'll continue clipping by default:
- Future systems like Lenovo *IIL*, Acer Spin, and Clevo Barebones
will require new quirks to disable clipping.
- The problem here is E820 entries that cover entire _CRS windows
that should not be clipped out.
- I think these E820 entries are legal per spec, and it would be
hard to get BIOS vendors to change them.
- We will discover new systems that need clipping disabled piecemeal
as they are released.
- Future systems like Lenovo X1 Carbon and the Chromebooks (probably
anything using coreboot) will just work and we will not notice new
ones that rely on the clipping.
- BIOS updates will not require new quirks unless they change the
DMI model string.
With a date check that disables clipping, e.g., "no clipping when
date >= 2023":
- Future systems like Lenovo *IIL*, Acer Spin, and Clevo Barebones
will just work without new quirks.
- Future systems like Lenovo X1 Carbon and the Chromebooks will
require new quirks to *enable* clipping.
- The problem here is that _CRS contains regions that are not usable
by PCI devices, and we rely on the E820 kludge to clip them out.
- I think this use of E820 is clearly a firmware bug, so we have a
fighting chance of getting it changed eventually.
- BIOS updates after the cutoff date *will* require quirks, but only
for systems like Lenovo X1 Carbon and Chromebooks that we already
think have broken firmware.
It seems to me like it's better to add quirks for firmware that we think
is broken than for firmware that seems unusual but correct.
Cc: Benoit Grégoire <benoitg@coeus.ca>
Cc: Hui Wang <hui.wang@canonical.com>
Acked-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
Signed-off-by: Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>
---
Changes in v9:
- Split making use_e820=false the default for BIOS year >= 2023 out
into this new patch
---
arch/x86/pci/acpi.c | 18 ++++++++++++++++++
1 file changed, 18 insertions(+)
diff --git a/arch/x86/pci/acpi.c b/arch/x86/pci/acpi.c
index b88bdfba7908..82b1c93ac04b 100644
--- a/arch/x86/pci/acpi.c
+++ b/arch/x86/pci/acpi.c
@@ -234,6 +234,24 @@ void __init pci_acpi_crs_quirks(void)
if (year >= 0 && year < 2008 && iomem_resource.end <= 0xffffffff)
pci_use_crs = false;
+ /*
+ * Some BIOS-es contain bugs where they add addresses which are already
+ * used in some other manner to the PCI host bridge window returned by
+ * the ACPI _CRS method. To avoid this Linux by default excludes
+ * E820 reservations when allocating addresses since 2010.
+ * In 2019 some systems have shown-up with E820 reservations which cover
+ * the entire _CRS returned PCI host bridge window, causing all attempts
+ * to assign memory to PCI BARs to fail if Linux uses E820 reservations.
+ *
+ * Ideally Linux would fully stop using E820 reservations, but then
+ * various old systems will regress. Instead stop using E820 reservations
+ * for new systems with a DMI BIOS year >= 2023;
+ * and use DMI quirks for existing systems on which excluding E820
+ * reservations is known to cause issues.
+ */
+ if (year >= 2023)
+ pci_use_e820 = false;
+
dmi_check_system(pci_crs_quirks);
/*
--
2.36.0
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