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* [PATCH] Documentation/CoC: Reflect current CoC interpretation and practices
@ 2022-09-26 21:11 Kristen Carlson Accardi
  2022-09-26 23:12 ` Jonathan Corbet
                   ` (3 more replies)
  0 siblings, 4 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Kristen Carlson Accardi @ 2022-09-26 21:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-doc, corbet, Greg Kroah-Hartman
  Cc: Kristen Carlson Accardi, Shuah Khan, linux-kernel

The Code of Conduct interpretation does not reflect the current
practices of the CoC committee or the TAB. Update the documentation
to remove references to initial committees and boot strap periods
since it is past that time, and note that the this document
does serve as the documentation for the CoC committee processes.

Signed-off-by: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>
Reviewed-by: Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>
Reviewed-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
---
 .../code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst        | 24 ++++++++++---------
 1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)

diff --git a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst
index 4f8a06b00f60..922e0b547bc3 100644
--- a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst
+++ b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst
@@ -127,10 +127,12 @@ are listed at https://kernel.org/code-of-conduct.html.  Members can not
 access reports made before they joined or after they have left the
 committee.
 
-The initial Code of Conduct Committee consists of volunteer members of
-the TAB, as well as a professional mediator acting as a neutral third
-party.  The first task of the committee is to establish documented
-processes, which will be made public.
+The Code of Conduct Committee consists of volunteer community members
+appointed by the TAB, as well as a professional mediator acting as a
+neutral third party.  The processes the Code of Conduct committee will
+use to address reports is varied and will depend on the individual
+circumstance, however, this file serves as documentation for the
+general process used.
 
 Any member of the committee, including the mediator, can be contacted
 directly if a reporter does not wish to include the full committee in a
@@ -141,16 +143,16 @@ processes (see above) and consults with the TAB as needed and
 appropriate, for instance to request and receive information about the
 kernel community.
 
-Any decisions by the committee will be brought to the TAB, for
-implementation of enforcement with the relevant maintainers if needed.
-A decision by the Code of Conduct Committee can be overturned by the TAB
-by a two-thirds vote.
+Any decisions regarding enforcement recommendations will be brought to
+the TAB for implementation of enforcement with the relevant maintainers
+if needed.  A decision by the Code of Conduct Committee can be overturned
+by the TAB by a two-thirds vote.
 
 At quarterly intervals, the Code of Conduct Committee and TAB will
 provide a report summarizing the anonymised reports that the Code of
 Conduct committee has received and their status, as well details of any
 overridden decisions including complete and identifiable voting details.
 
-We expect to establish a different process for Code of Conduct Committee
-staffing beyond the bootstrap period.  This document will be updated
-with that information when this occurs.
+Because how we interpret and enforce the Code of Conduct will evolve over
+time, this document will be updated when necessary to reflect any
+changes.
-- 
2.37.3


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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/CoC: Reflect current CoC interpretation and practices
  2022-09-26 21:11 [PATCH] Documentation/CoC: Reflect current CoC interpretation and practices Kristen Carlson Accardi
@ 2022-09-26 23:12 ` Jonathan Corbet
  2022-09-27 15:59   ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
  2022-09-27  8:19 ` Bagas Sanjaya
                   ` (2 subsequent siblings)
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Corbet @ 2022-09-26 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kristen Carlson Accardi, linux-doc, Greg Kroah-Hartman
  Cc: Kristen Carlson Accardi, Shuah Khan, linux-kernel, LF TAB

Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com> writes:

> The Code of Conduct interpretation does not reflect the current
> practices of the CoC committee or the TAB. Update the documentation
> to remove references to initial committees and boot strap periods
> since it is past that time, and note that the this document
> does serve as the documentation for the CoC committee processes.

Since this takes the TAB's name in vain, they should probably be CC'd on
it; I've added that now.

Thanks,

jon

> Signed-off-by: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>
> Reviewed-by: Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>
> Reviewed-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
> ---
>  .../code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst        | 24 ++++++++++---------
>  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
>
> diff --git a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst
> index 4f8a06b00f60..922e0b547bc3 100644
> --- a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst
> +++ b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst
> @@ -127,10 +127,12 @@ are listed at https://kernel.org/code-of-conduct.html.  Members can not
>  access reports made before they joined or after they have left the
>  committee.
>  
> -The initial Code of Conduct Committee consists of volunteer members of
> -the TAB, as well as a professional mediator acting as a neutral third
> -party.  The first task of the committee is to establish documented
> -processes, which will be made public.
> +The Code of Conduct Committee consists of volunteer community members
> +appointed by the TAB, as well as a professional mediator acting as a
> +neutral third party.  The processes the Code of Conduct committee will
> +use to address reports is varied and will depend on the individual
> +circumstance, however, this file serves as documentation for the
> +general process used.
>  
>  Any member of the committee, including the mediator, can be contacted
>  directly if a reporter does not wish to include the full committee in a
> @@ -141,16 +143,16 @@ processes (see above) and consults with the TAB as needed and
>  appropriate, for instance to request and receive information about the
>  kernel community.
>  
> -Any decisions by the committee will be brought to the TAB, for
> -implementation of enforcement with the relevant maintainers if needed.
> -A decision by the Code of Conduct Committee can be overturned by the TAB
> -by a two-thirds vote.
> +Any decisions regarding enforcement recommendations will be brought to
> +the TAB for implementation of enforcement with the relevant maintainers
> +if needed.  A decision by the Code of Conduct Committee can be overturned
> +by the TAB by a two-thirds vote.
>  
>  At quarterly intervals, the Code of Conduct Committee and TAB will
>  provide a report summarizing the anonymised reports that the Code of
>  Conduct committee has received and their status, as well details of any
>  overridden decisions including complete and identifiable voting details.
>  
> -We expect to establish a different process for Code of Conduct Committee
> -staffing beyond the bootstrap period.  This document will be updated
> -with that information when this occurs.
> +Because how we interpret and enforce the Code of Conduct will evolve over
> +time, this document will be updated when necessary to reflect any
> +changes.
> -- 
> 2.37.3

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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/CoC: Reflect current CoC interpretation and practices
  2022-09-26 21:11 [PATCH] Documentation/CoC: Reflect current CoC interpretation and practices Kristen Carlson Accardi
  2022-09-26 23:12 ` Jonathan Corbet
@ 2022-09-27  8:19 ` Bagas Sanjaya
  2022-09-27  8:22   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
  2022-09-27  8:30 ` Bagas Sanjaya
  2022-09-29 19:15 ` Jonathan Corbet
  3 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Bagas Sanjaya @ 2022-09-27  8:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kristen Carlson Accardi, linux-doc, corbet, Greg Kroah-Hartman
  Cc: Shuah Khan, linux-kernel

On 9/27/22 04:11, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:
> The Code of Conduct interpretation does not reflect the current
> practices of the CoC committee or the TAB. Update the documentation
> to remove references to initial committees and boot strap periods
> since it is past that time, and note that the this document
> does serve as the documentation for the CoC committee processes.
> 

When was the bootstrap period be concluded?

-- 
An old man doll... just what I always wanted! - Clara

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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/CoC: Reflect current CoC interpretation and practices
  2022-09-27  8:19 ` Bagas Sanjaya
@ 2022-09-27  8:22   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
  2022-09-27  8:27     ` Bagas Sanjaya
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Greg Kroah-Hartman @ 2022-09-27  8:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bagas Sanjaya
  Cc: Kristen Carlson Accardi, linux-doc, corbet, Shuah Khan, linux-kernel

On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 03:19:29PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> On 9/27/22 04:11, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:
> > The Code of Conduct interpretation does not reflect the current
> > practices of the CoC committee or the TAB. Update the documentation
> > to remove references to initial committees and boot strap periods
> > since it is past that time, and note that the this document
> > does serve as the documentation for the CoC committee processes.
> > 
> 
> When was the bootstrap period be concluded?

I do not understand the question, sorry.  What exactly are you asking
here?

confused,

greg k-h

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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/CoC: Reflect current CoC interpretation and practices
  2022-09-27  8:22   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
@ 2022-09-27  8:27     ` Bagas Sanjaya
  2022-09-27  8:43       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Bagas Sanjaya @ 2022-09-27  8:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Greg Kroah-Hartman
  Cc: Kristen Carlson Accardi, linux-doc, corbet, Shuah Khan, linux-kernel

On 9/27/22 15:22, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>> When was the bootstrap period be concluded?
> 
> I do not understand the question, sorry.  What exactly are you asking
> here?
> 
> confused,
> 
> greg k-h

Hi Greg,

In the patch, the mention to bootstrap period of CoC committee is
replaced with note about dynamic nature of CoC interpretation. I asked
when the duration of bootstrap period was before we got into status quo.

Thanks.

-- 
An old man doll... just what I always wanted! - Clara

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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/CoC: Reflect current CoC interpretation and practices
  2022-09-26 21:11 [PATCH] Documentation/CoC: Reflect current CoC interpretation and practices Kristen Carlson Accardi
  2022-09-26 23:12 ` Jonathan Corbet
  2022-09-27  8:19 ` Bagas Sanjaya
@ 2022-09-27  8:30 ` Bagas Sanjaya
  2022-09-29 19:15 ` Jonathan Corbet
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Bagas Sanjaya @ 2022-09-27  8:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kristen Carlson Accardi, linux-doc, corbet, Greg Kroah-Hartman
  Cc: Shuah Khan, linux-kernel

On 9/27/22 04:11, Kristen Carlson Accardi wrote:
> -The initial Code of Conduct Committee consists of volunteer members of
> -the TAB, as well as a professional mediator acting as a neutral third
> -party.  The first task of the committee is to establish documented
> -processes, which will be made public.
> +The Code of Conduct Committee consists of volunteer community members
> +appointed by the TAB, as well as a professional mediator acting as a
> +neutral third party.  The processes the Code of Conduct committee will
> +use to address reports is varied and will depend on the individual
> +circumstance, however, this file serves as documentation for the
> +general process used.
>  
>  Any member of the committee, including the mediator, can be contacted
>  directly if a reporter does not wish to include the full committee in a
> @@ -141,16 +143,16 @@ processes (see above) and consults with the TAB as needed and
>  appropriate, for instance to request and receive information about the
>  kernel community.
>  
> -Any decisions by the committee will be brought to the TAB, for
> -implementation of enforcement with the relevant maintainers if needed.
> -A decision by the Code of Conduct Committee can be overturned by the TAB
> -by a two-thirds vote.
> +Any decisions regarding enforcement recommendations will be brought to
> +the TAB for implementation of enforcement with the relevant maintainers
> +if needed.  A decision by the Code of Conduct Committee can be overturned
> +by the TAB by a two-thirds vote.
>  
>  At quarterly intervals, the Code of Conduct Committee and TAB will
>  provide a report summarizing the anonymised reports that the Code of
>  Conduct committee has received and their status, as well details of any
>  overridden decisions including complete and identifiable voting details.
>  
> -We expect to establish a different process for Code of Conduct Committee
> -staffing beyond the bootstrap period.  This document will be updated
> -with that information when this occurs.
> +Because how we interpret and enforce the Code of Conduct will evolve over
> +time, this document will be updated when necessary to reflect any
> +changes.

The grammar LGTM, thanks.

Reviewed-by: Bagas Sanjaya <bagasdotme@gmail.com>

-- 
An old man doll... just what I always wanted! - Clara

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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/CoC: Reflect current CoC interpretation and practices
  2022-09-27  8:27     ` Bagas Sanjaya
@ 2022-09-27  8:43       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
  2022-09-27 12:08         ` Bagas Sanjaya
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Greg Kroah-Hartman @ 2022-09-27  8:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bagas Sanjaya
  Cc: Kristen Carlson Accardi, linux-doc, corbet, Shuah Khan, linux-kernel

On Tue, Sep 27, 2022 at 03:27:24PM +0700, Bagas Sanjaya wrote:
> On 9/27/22 15:22, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> >> When was the bootstrap period be concluded?
> > 
> > I do not understand the question, sorry.  What exactly are you asking
> > here?
> > 
> > confused,
> > 
> > greg k-h
> 
> Hi Greg,
> 
> In the patch, the mention to bootstrap period of CoC committee is
> replaced with note about dynamic nature of CoC interpretation. I asked
> when the duration of bootstrap period was before we got into status quo.

It was a while ago, a few years perhaps?  We had forgotten to update the
document since then, sorry.

greg k-h

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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/CoC: Reflect current CoC interpretation and practices
  2022-09-27  8:43       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
@ 2022-09-27 12:08         ` Bagas Sanjaya
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Bagas Sanjaya @ 2022-09-27 12:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Greg Kroah-Hartman
  Cc: Kristen Carlson Accardi, linux-doc, corbet, Shuah Khan, linux-kernel

On 9/27/22 15:43, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
>> Hi Greg,
>>
>> In the patch, the mention to bootstrap period of CoC committee is
>> replaced with note about dynamic nature of CoC interpretation. I asked
>> when the duration of bootstrap period was before we got into status quo.
> 
> It was a while ago, a few years perhaps?  We had forgotten to update the
> document since then, sorry.
> 
> greg k-h

Thanks Greg for the info!

-- 
An old man doll... just what I always wanted! - Clara

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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/CoC: Reflect current CoC interpretation and practices
  2022-09-26 23:12 ` Jonathan Corbet
@ 2022-09-27 15:59   ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
  2022-09-27 16:03     ` Jonathan Corbet
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 11+ messages in thread
From: Kristen Carlson Accardi @ 2022-09-27 15:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jonathan Corbet, linux-doc, Greg Kroah-Hartman
  Cc: Shuah Khan, linux-kernel, LF TAB

On Mon, 2022-09-26 at 17:12 -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote:
> Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com> writes:
> 
> > The Code of Conduct interpretation does not reflect the current
> > practices of the CoC committee or the TAB. Update the documentation
> > to remove references to initial committees and boot strap periods
> > since it is past that time, and note that the this document
> > does serve as the documentation for the CoC committee processes.
> 
> Since this takes the TAB's name in vain, they should probably be CC'd
> on
> it; I've added that now.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> jon

Thanks Jon,

> 
> > Signed-off-by: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>
> > Reviewed-by: Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>
> > Reviewed-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
> > ---
> >  .../code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst        | 24 ++++++++++-----
> > ----
> >  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct-
> > interpretation.rst b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct-
> > interpretation.rst
> > index 4f8a06b00f60..922e0b547bc3 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst
> > +++ b/Documentation/process/code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst
> > @@ -127,10 +127,12 @@ are listed at
> > https://kernel.org/code-of-conduct.html.  Members can not
> >  access reports made before they joined or after they have left the
> >  committee.
> >  
> > -The initial Code of Conduct Committee consists of volunteer
> > members of
> > -the TAB, as well as a professional mediator acting as a neutral
> > third
> > -party.  The first task of the committee is to establish documented
> > -processes, which will be made public.
> > +The Code of Conduct Committee consists of volunteer community
> > members
> > +appointed by the TAB, as well as a professional mediator acting as
> > a
> > +neutral third party.  The processes the Code of Conduct committee
> > will
> > +use to address reports is varied and will depend on the individual

Eek, I see a small error here - it should either say "The processes the
Code of Conduct committee will use to address reports are varied"
OR
"The process the Code of Conduct committee will use to address reports
is varied"

Perhaps this can be fixed when it is added to a tree, or let me know if
you would like another version.


Thanks,
Kristen


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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/CoC: Reflect current CoC interpretation and practices
  2022-09-27 15:59   ` Kristen Carlson Accardi
@ 2022-09-27 16:03     ` Jonathan Corbet
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Corbet @ 2022-09-27 16:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kristen Carlson Accardi, linux-doc, Greg Kroah-Hartman
  Cc: Shuah Khan, linux-kernel, LF TAB

Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com> writes:

>> > +neutral third party.  The processes the Code of Conduct committee
>> > will
>> > +use to address reports is varied and will depend on the individual
>
> Eek, I see a small error here - it should either say "The processes the
> Code of Conduct committee will use to address reports are varied"
> OR
> "The process the Code of Conduct committee will use to address reports
> is varied"
>
> Perhaps this can be fixed when it is added to a tree, or let me know if
> you would like another version.

I can tweak it, no worries.

Thanks,

jon

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* Re: [PATCH] Documentation/CoC: Reflect current CoC interpretation and practices
  2022-09-26 21:11 [PATCH] Documentation/CoC: Reflect current CoC interpretation and practices Kristen Carlson Accardi
                   ` (2 preceding siblings ...)
  2022-09-27  8:30 ` Bagas Sanjaya
@ 2022-09-29 19:15 ` Jonathan Corbet
  3 siblings, 0 replies; 11+ messages in thread
From: Jonathan Corbet @ 2022-09-29 19:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kristen Carlson Accardi, linux-doc, Greg Kroah-Hartman
  Cc: Kristen Carlson Accardi, Shuah Khan, linux-kernel

Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com> writes:

> The Code of Conduct interpretation does not reflect the current
> practices of the CoC committee or the TAB. Update the documentation
> to remove references to initial committees and boot strap periods
> since it is past that time, and note that the this document
> does serve as the documentation for the CoC committee processes.
>
> Signed-off-by: Kristen Carlson Accardi <kristen@linux.intel.com>
> Reviewed-by: Shuah Khan <skhan@linuxfoundation.org>
> Reviewed-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
> ---
>  .../code-of-conduct-interpretation.rst        | 24 ++++++++++---------
>  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)

I've applied this, thanks.

jon

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