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From: Henning Schild <henning.schild@siemens.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Lee Jones <lee@kernel.org>,
	Hans de Goede <hdegoede@redhat.com>,
	Mark Gross <markgross@kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-leds@vger.kernel.org,
	platform-driver-x86@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] leds: simatic-ipc-leds-gpio: split up into multiple drivers
Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2023 16:58:24 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230302165824.4868f6da@md1za8fc.ad001.siemens.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZADE7kBB9HzTlpul@smile.fi.intel.com>

Am Thu, 2 Mar 2023 17:46:54 +0200
schrieb Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>:

> On Thu, Mar 02, 2023 at 09:40:09AM +0100, Henning Schild wrote:
> > Am Wed, 1 Mar 2023 19:28:12 +0200
> > schrieb Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>:  
> > > On Wed, Mar 01, 2023 at 06:02:14PM +0100, Henning Schild wrote:  
> 
> ...
> 
> > > > +	.driver = {
> > > > +		.name = KBUILD_MODNAME,    
> > > 
> > > Strictly speaking this is an ABI (as something may instantiate the
> > > driver from the user space or elsewhere by this name. At the same
> > > time this may change with the file name change.
> > > 
> > > Personally I prefer explicit string literal here.  
> > 
> > Switching from one module to three the names have to change. People
> > who explicitly loaded the old module which supported multiple
> > machines, will now how to load either both oŕ know which one to
> > load.  
> 
> Wait, are you telling that now users load modules _manually_?!

No i am not, the modules all load automatically. I was trying to
construct a hypothetical case where the name change could affect users
doing unexpected things.

> > I personally think the ABI change is acceptable, the assumption
> > would be that the drivers load automatically anyhow. And since
> > there are no params i doubt users will have /etc/modprobe.d/ or
> > /sys/module/ stuff around.
> > 
> > And with the split i guess an ABI change can not be fully avoided.
> > Whether the names is explicit or implicit is another discussion and
> > just a matter of style. I prefer to stay with the currently used
> > pattern, it is not un-common in the kernel.  
> 
> The problem with that pattern is possible, while unlikely, renaming
> of the file which triggers this to be updated.
> 
> Under sysfs the folder will change its name. If user has a script
> relying on this, it will be broken. So, I prefer mine.

Yes, the name of the module will change ... and the location of module
metadata and params in sysfs, both not a big deal here. Because there
are no params, and there is not need to modprobe manually.

Henning

> > > > +	},    
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2023-03-02 15:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-01 17:02 [PATCH v2 0/3] leds: simatic-ipc-leds-gpio: split up Henning Schild
2023-03-01 17:02 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] leds: simatic-ipc-leds-gpio: move two extra gpio pins into another table Henning Schild
2023-03-01 17:21   ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-03-02  8:33     ` Henning Schild
2023-03-01 17:02 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] leds: simatic-ipc-leds-gpio: split up into multiple drivers Henning Schild
2023-03-01 17:28   ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-03-02  8:40     ` Henning Schild
2023-03-02 15:46       ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-03-02 15:58         ` Henning Schild [this message]
2023-03-02 16:21           ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-03-02 17:06             ` Henning Schild
2023-05-15 11:14     ` Henning Schild
2023-03-01 17:02 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] leds: simatic-ipc-leds-gpio: introduce more Kconfig switches Henning Schild
2023-03-01 17:29   ` Andy Shevchenko
2023-03-02  8:31     ` Henning Schild
2023-03-01 18:04   ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-02  8:47     ` Henning Schild
2023-03-02  9:02       ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-02 10:14         ` Henning Schild
2023-05-15 10:41         ` Henning Schild
2023-05-15 11:24           ` Hans de Goede
2023-03-01 17:30 ` [PATCH v2 0/3] leds: simatic-ipc-leds-gpio: split up Andy Shevchenko
2023-03-02 10:19   ` Henning Schild
2023-05-13 10:08 ` Henning Schild
2023-05-15  9:50   ` Lee Jones
2023-05-15 10:01     ` Henning Schild
2023-05-15 12:12       ` Lee Jones
2023-05-15 15:06         ` Henning Schild
2023-05-15 15:40           ` Lee Jones

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