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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Jason Wang <jasowang@redhat.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, bpf@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH vhost v10 00/10] virtio core prepares for AF_XDP
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 15:38:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230622153730-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230602092206.50108-1-xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>

On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 05:21:56PM +0800, Xuan Zhuo wrote:
> ## About DMA APIs
> 
> Now, virtio may can not work with DMA APIs when virtio features do not have
> VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM.
> 
> 1. I tried to let DMA APIs return phy address by virtio-device. But DMA APIs just
>    work with the "real" devices.
> 2. I tried to let xsk support callballs to get phy address from virtio-net
>    driver as the dma address. But the maintainers of xsk may want to use dma-buf
>    to replace the DMA APIs. I think that may be a larger effort. We will wait
>    too long.
> 
> So rethinking this, firstly, we can support premapped-dma only for devices with
> VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM. In the case of af-xdp, if the users want to use it,
> they have to update the device to support VIRTIO_F_RING_RESET, and they can also
> enable the device's VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM feature.
> 
> Thanks for the help from Christoph.
> 
> =================
> 
> XDP socket(AF_XDP) is an excellent bypass kernel network framework. The zero
> copy feature of xsk (XDP socket) needs to be supported by the driver. The
> performance of zero copy is very good.
> 
> ENV: Qemu with vhost.
> 
>                    vhost cpu | Guest APP CPU |Guest Softirq CPU | PPS
> -----------------------------|---------------|------------------|------------
> xmit by sockperf:     90%    |   100%        |                  |  318967
> xmit by xsk:          100%   |   30%         |   33%            | 1192064
> recv by sockperf:     100%   |   68%         |   100%           |  692288
> recv by xsk:          100%   |   33%         |   43%            |  771670
> 
> Before achieving the function of Virtio-Net, we also have to let virtio core
> support these features:

So by itself, this doesn't do this. But what effect does all this
overhead have on performance?

> 1. virtio core support premapped
> 2. virtio core support reset per-queue
> 3. introduce DMA APIs to virtio core
> 
> Please review.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> v10:
>  1. support to set vq to premapped mode, then the vq just handles the premapped request.
>  2. virtio-net support to do dma mapping in advance
> 
> v9:
>  1. use flag to distinguish the premapped operations. no do judgment by sg.
> 
> v8:
>  1. vring_sg_address: check by sg_page(sg) not dma_address. Because 0 is a valid dma address
>  2. remove unused code from vring_map_one_sg()
> 
> v7:
>  1. virtqueue_dma_dev() return NULL when virtio is without DMA API.
> 
> v6:
>  1. change the size of the flags to u32.
> 
> v5:
>  1. fix for error handler
>  2. add flags to record internal dma mapping
> 
> v4:
>  1. rename map_inter to dma_map_internal
>  2. fix: Excess function parameter 'vq' description in 'virtqueue_dma_dev'
> 
> v3:
>  1. add map_inter to struct desc state to reocrd whether virtio core do dma map
> 
> v2:
>  1. based on sgs[0]->dma_address to judgment is premapped
>  2. based on extra.addr to judgment to do unmap for no-indirect desc
>  3. based on indir_desc to judgment to do unmap for indirect desc
>  4. rename virtqueue_get_dma_dev to virtqueue_dma_dev
> 
> v1:
>  1. expose dma device. NO introduce the api for dma and sync
>  2. split some commit for review.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Xuan Zhuo (10):
>   virtio_ring: put mapping error check in vring_map_one_sg
>   virtio_ring: introduce virtqueue_set_premapped()
>   virtio_ring: split: support add premapped buf
>   virtio_ring: packed: support add premapped buf
>   virtio_ring: split-detach: support return dma info to driver
>   virtio_ring: packed-detach: support return dma info to driver
>   virtio_ring: introduce helpers for premapped
>   virtio_ring: introduce virtqueue_dma_dev()
>   virtio_ring: introduce virtqueue_add_sg()
>   virtio_net: support dma premapped
> 
>  drivers/net/virtio_net.c     | 163 ++++++++++--
>  drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c | 493 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
>  include/linux/virtio.h       |  34 +++
>  3 files changed, 612 insertions(+), 78 deletions(-)
> 
> --
> 2.32.0.3.g01195cf9f


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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Xuan Zhuo <xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>
Cc: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <hawk@kernel.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>,
	bpf@vger.kernel.org, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH vhost v10 00/10] virtio core prepares for AF_XDP
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2023 15:38:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230622153730-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230602092206.50108-1-xuanzhuo@linux.alibaba.com>

On Fri, Jun 02, 2023 at 05:21:56PM +0800, Xuan Zhuo wrote:
> ## About DMA APIs
> 
> Now, virtio may can not work with DMA APIs when virtio features do not have
> VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM.
> 
> 1. I tried to let DMA APIs return phy address by virtio-device. But DMA APIs just
>    work with the "real" devices.
> 2. I tried to let xsk support callballs to get phy address from virtio-net
>    driver as the dma address. But the maintainers of xsk may want to use dma-buf
>    to replace the DMA APIs. I think that may be a larger effort. We will wait
>    too long.
> 
> So rethinking this, firstly, we can support premapped-dma only for devices with
> VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM. In the case of af-xdp, if the users want to use it,
> they have to update the device to support VIRTIO_F_RING_RESET, and they can also
> enable the device's VIRTIO_F_ACCESS_PLATFORM feature.
> 
> Thanks for the help from Christoph.
> 
> =================
> 
> XDP socket(AF_XDP) is an excellent bypass kernel network framework. The zero
> copy feature of xsk (XDP socket) needs to be supported by the driver. The
> performance of zero copy is very good.
> 
> ENV: Qemu with vhost.
> 
>                    vhost cpu | Guest APP CPU |Guest Softirq CPU | PPS
> -----------------------------|---------------|------------------|------------
> xmit by sockperf:     90%    |   100%        |                  |  318967
> xmit by xsk:          100%   |   30%         |   33%            | 1192064
> recv by sockperf:     100%   |   68%         |   100%           |  692288
> recv by xsk:          100%   |   33%         |   43%            |  771670
> 
> Before achieving the function of Virtio-Net, we also have to let virtio core
> support these features:

So by itself, this doesn't do this. But what effect does all this
overhead have on performance?

> 1. virtio core support premapped
> 2. virtio core support reset per-queue
> 3. introduce DMA APIs to virtio core
> 
> Please review.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> v10:
>  1. support to set vq to premapped mode, then the vq just handles the premapped request.
>  2. virtio-net support to do dma mapping in advance
> 
> v9:
>  1. use flag to distinguish the premapped operations. no do judgment by sg.
> 
> v8:
>  1. vring_sg_address: check by sg_page(sg) not dma_address. Because 0 is a valid dma address
>  2. remove unused code from vring_map_one_sg()
> 
> v7:
>  1. virtqueue_dma_dev() return NULL when virtio is without DMA API.
> 
> v6:
>  1. change the size of the flags to u32.
> 
> v5:
>  1. fix for error handler
>  2. add flags to record internal dma mapping
> 
> v4:
>  1. rename map_inter to dma_map_internal
>  2. fix: Excess function parameter 'vq' description in 'virtqueue_dma_dev'
> 
> v3:
>  1. add map_inter to struct desc state to reocrd whether virtio core do dma map
> 
> v2:
>  1. based on sgs[0]->dma_address to judgment is premapped
>  2. based on extra.addr to judgment to do unmap for no-indirect desc
>  3. based on indir_desc to judgment to do unmap for indirect desc
>  4. rename virtqueue_get_dma_dev to virtqueue_dma_dev
> 
> v1:
>  1. expose dma device. NO introduce the api for dma and sync
>  2. split some commit for review.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Xuan Zhuo (10):
>   virtio_ring: put mapping error check in vring_map_one_sg
>   virtio_ring: introduce virtqueue_set_premapped()
>   virtio_ring: split: support add premapped buf
>   virtio_ring: packed: support add premapped buf
>   virtio_ring: split-detach: support return dma info to driver
>   virtio_ring: packed-detach: support return dma info to driver
>   virtio_ring: introduce helpers for premapped
>   virtio_ring: introduce virtqueue_dma_dev()
>   virtio_ring: introduce virtqueue_add_sg()
>   virtio_net: support dma premapped
> 
>  drivers/net/virtio_net.c     | 163 ++++++++++--
>  drivers/virtio/virtio_ring.c | 493 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++----
>  include/linux/virtio.h       |  34 +++
>  3 files changed, 612 insertions(+), 78 deletions(-)
> 
> --
> 2.32.0.3.g01195cf9f

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Thread overview: 91+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-02  9:21 [PATCH vhost v10 00/10] virtio core prepares for AF_XDP Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02  9:21 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02  9:21 ` [PATCH vhost v10 01/10] virtio_ring: put mapping error check in vring_map_one_sg Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02  9:21   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-27  8:03   ` Jason Wang
2023-06-27  8:03     ` Jason Wang
2023-06-02  9:21 ` [PATCH vhost v10 02/10] virtio_ring: introduce virtqueue_set_premapped() Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02  9:21   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-27  8:03   ` Jason Wang
2023-06-27  8:03     ` Jason Wang
2023-06-27  8:50     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-27  8:50       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-27 14:56       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-27 14:56         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-28  1:34         ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-28  1:34           ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02  9:21 ` [PATCH vhost v10 03/10] virtio_ring: split: support add premapped buf Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02  9:21   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-27  8:03   ` Jason Wang
2023-06-27  8:03     ` Jason Wang
2023-06-27  9:01     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-27  9:01       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-28  4:07       ` Jason Wang
2023-06-28  6:00         ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-28  6:51           ` Jason Wang
2023-06-02  9:22 ` [PATCH vhost v10 04/10] virtio_ring: packed: " Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02  9:22   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-27  8:03   ` Jason Wang
2023-06-27  8:03     ` Jason Wang
2023-06-27  9:05     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-27  9:05       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02  9:22 ` [PATCH vhost v10 05/10] virtio_ring: split-detach: support return dma info to driver Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02  9:22   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-22 19:36   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-22 19:36     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-25  2:10     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-25  2:10       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-27  8:03   ` Jason Wang
2023-06-27  8:03     ` Jason Wang
2023-06-27  9:21     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-27  9:21       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02  9:22 ` [PATCH vhost v10 06/10] virtio_ring: packed-detach: " Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02  9:22   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02 11:40   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-02 11:40     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-02  9:22 ` [PATCH vhost v10 07/10] virtio_ring: introduce helpers for premapped Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02  9:22   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-04 13:45   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-04 13:45     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-05  2:06     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-05  2:06       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-05  5:38       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-05  5:38         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06  2:01         ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-06  2:01           ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-22 19:29   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-22 19:29     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-02  9:22 ` [PATCH vhost v10 08/10] virtio_ring: introduce virtqueue_dma_dev() Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02  9:22   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02  9:22 ` [PATCH vhost v10 09/10] virtio_ring: introduce virtqueue_add_sg() Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02  9:22   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02  9:22 ` [PATCH vhost v10 10/10] virtio_net: support dma premapped Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-02  9:22   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-03  6:31   ` Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-05  2:10     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-05  2:10       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-05  5:44       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-05  5:44         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-06  2:11         ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-06  2:11           ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-22 12:15   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-22 12:15     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-25  2:43     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-25  2:43       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-27  8:03   ` Jason Wang
2023-06-27  8:03     ` Jason Wang
2023-06-27  9:23     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-27  9:23       ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-03  6:29 ` [PATCH vhost v10 00/10] virtio core prepares for AF_XDP Jakub Kicinski
2023-06-05  1:58   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-05  1:58     ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-07 14:05     ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-06-07 14:05       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-06-07 20:15       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-07 20:15         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2023-06-21  6:42 ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-21  6:42   ` Xuan Zhuo
2023-06-25  7:19   ` Jason Wang
2023-06-25  7:19     ` Jason Wang
2023-06-22 19:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2023-06-22 19:38   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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