* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-08-10 22:51 DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series SeongJae Park
@ 2022-08-29 20:15 ` SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2022-08-29 20:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello all,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> meeting series for DAMON community.
>
> Important links and dates
> -------------------------
>
> Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
>
> First instance: 2022-08-15 18:00 PDT
> Second instance: 2022-08-30 09:00 PDT
I just wanted to remind you the second instance of this chat series that
mentioned above will happen tomorrow morning (PDT).
Looking forward to see you there!
Thanks,
SJ
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-08-10 22:51 DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series SeongJae Park
2022-08-29 20:15 ` SeongJae Park
@ 2022-08-30 21:54 ` SeongJae Park
2022-09-09 17:38 ` SeongJae Park
2022-09-28 17:59 ` SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2022-08-30 21:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> meeting series for DAMON community.
>
> Important links and dates
> -------------------------
>
> Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
>
> First instance: 2022-08-15 18:00 PDT
> Second instance: 2022-08-30 09:00 PDT
According to the bi-weekly schedule, the third instance of this meeting series
should be scheduled to 2022-09-12 18:00 PDT. It means it will conflict with
LPC'22[1]. For the reason, I'd like to reserve a session in the BoF trakc of
the conference, and do an _in-persion_ DAMON community meeting in the session.
The session could also include some followup QnA/discussions of the kernel
summit DAMON talk[2].
I just submitted the BoF proposal asking it to be scheduled after the kernel
summit DAMON talk. I will provide further update once I get the feedback from
the committee. Hope it to be accepted!
[1] https://lpc.events/
[2] https://lpc.events/event/16/contributions/1224/
Thanks,
SJ
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-08-30 21:54 ` SeongJae Park
@ 2022-09-09 17:38 ` SeongJae Park
2022-09-19 22:14 ` SeongJae Park
2023-11-08 14:55 ` SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2022-09-09 17:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello,
On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 21:54:28 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> > meeting series for DAMON community.
> >
> > Important links and dates
> > -------------------------
> >
> > Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> > Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
> >
> > First instance: 2022-08-15 18:00 PDT
> > Second instance: 2022-08-30 09:00 PDT
>
> According to the bi-weekly schedule, the third instance of this meeting series
> should be scheduled to 2022-09-12 18:00 PDT. It means it will conflict with
> LPC'22[1]. For the reason, I'd like to reserve a session in the BoF trakc of
> the conference, and do an _in-persion_ DAMON community meeting in the session.
> The session could also include some followup QnA/discussions of the kernel
> summit DAMON talk[2].
>
> I just submitted the BoF proposal asking it to be scheduled after the kernel
> summit DAMON talk. I will provide further update once I get the feedback from
> the committee. Hope it to be accepted!
And I just received the acceptance notification of my BoF proposal. The
schedule is not updated yet, but I guess it should be 2022-09-14 (Wednesday)
17:00-18:30 in Irish Standard Time (IST, UTC+01:00, Europe/Dublin timezone).
So, our next DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea Chat series will be held in LPC2022, in
person. I will update the final time and location as soon as possible.
I will also attend OSSummit EU. Amazon will have a booth there, and I will
also be near the booth in usual. So if anyone doesn't attend LPC but OSSummit
EU and wants to ask or discuss anything about DAMON, please come and find me
there. Please feel free to send me mails for making appointment or check my
schedule.
For people who cannot join in person there, I will schedule next virtual
instance of the chat series in the Monday of the LPC's next week. That is, the
next virtual instance of this chat series will be in
2022-09-19 18:00 PDT (https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu)
I will also update the Google doc for the schedules and agendas:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
Looking forward to meet you DAMON community in person as many as possible!
Thanks,
SJ
>
> [1] https://lpc.events/
> [2] https://lpc.events/event/16/contributions/1224/
>
>
> Thanks,
> SJ
>
> [...]
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-09-09 17:38 ` SeongJae Park
@ 2022-09-19 22:14 ` SeongJae Park
2023-11-08 14:55 ` SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2022-09-19 22:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: Alexander Zhu, damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm,
linux-kernel
Hello,
On Fri, 9 Sep 2022 17:38:56 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
[...]
> So, our next DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea Chat series will be held in LPC2022, in
> person.
We had the in-person DAMON community meetup in last Wednesday, as announced.
In the meeting, I met Alex, who recently posted the THP shrinker patch[1], and
had a very interesting discussion about use of DAMON for his work. Leaving a
summary of the discussion here.
TL;DR: DAMON cannot be used for Alex' work as is. But, the goal of the work
can be achieved using DAMON, though the internal mechanism would be slightly
different. Also, with some works, DAMON can be directly used for Alex' work.
The idea of Alex' work is to measure how many sub-pages in THPs are actually
accessed, to know how much memory we are wasting due to THP-internal
fragmentation, and split THPs having low utilization into regular pages.
So imaginable DAMON ussage here would be using DAMON for the THP utilization
measurement. Unfortunately, DAMON couldn't be used for the purpose for now,
because current implementation of DAMON uses PTE Accessed bits. When a THP is
collapsed, hence, DAMON will check the access to the THP in THP granularity,
not in the page granularity.
That said, we have an experimental implementation of DAMON-based THP
improvement[2] which is integrated in DAMON performance tests suite[3]. It
aims to achieve THP improvement that similar to Alex' one, though the detailed
mechanism is slightly different from Alex' one. The idea of DAMON-based
approach is to find >=2MB virtual memory regions showing high access frequency
and do 'madvise(MADV_HUGEPAGE)' while finding memory regions showing no access
for a time and do 'madvise(MADV_NOHUGEPAGE)', to reduce the memory footprint
increase due to the THP internal fragmentation while keeping the performance
improvement.
So the main difference between Alex' work and the experimental DAMON-based
approach is that Alex' work enables THP always first, then finds under-utilized
THP and split those, while DAMON-based approach finds memory regions that could
get benefit from THP and collapses those, while splitting THPs showing no
performance benefit opportunity.
According to the test results[4], DAMON-based THP improvement removes 80.3% of
THP memory waste while preserving 30.79% of THP speedup. I'm planning to make
a kernel module doing this work with a conservatively decided parameter values,
and then automate the parameter tuning based on some system metrics. Time line
is not clear at the moment, though.
We can make the DAMON-based approach more similar to Alex' one by enabling THP
always and using DAMON for splitting cold pages only. THPs being cold doesn't
mean under-utilized, so still not strictly same to Alex' idea, but given the
fact that one important goal of THP is the TLB miss reduction, splitting cold
THPs would make some sense.
There is still a way to use DAMON for Alex' approach in his idea, though some
work is needed. DAMON cannot directly be used for Alex' work as is because it
is using PTE Accessed bits based access check mechanism. But, DAMON allows
multiple access check mechanism to be implemented and configured to be used by
DAMON. Therefore, we can extend DAMON to use some access check mechanism that
THP-independent and use that for Alex' work. For example, AMD's
Instruction-Based Sampling[5] can be imagined. Because it check accesses in
byte-granularity, should be THP independent and therefore able to be used for
checking access to THP-internal sub-pages. Maybe Alex' THP sub-pages access
check mechanism could also be used.
If I'm missing something or saying wrong, please let me know.
[1] https://lwn.net/Articles/906511/
[2] https://github.com/awslabs/damon-tests/tree/13d1850b79a2/perf/schemes/ethp.damos
[3] https://github.com/awslabs/damon-tests/tree/13d1850b79a2/perf
[4] https://damonitor.github.io/doc/html/v34-damos/vm/damon/eval.html#efficient-thp
[5] https://developer.amd.com/wordpress/media/2012/10/AMD_IBS_paper_EN.pdf
[...]
> For people who cannot join in person there, I will schedule next virtual
> instance of the chat series in the Monday of the LPC's next week. That is, the
> next virtual instance of this chat series will be in
>
> 2022-09-19 18:00 PDT (https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu)
And, maybe too late but reminding you that next virtual instance of the chat
series is today, 6PM in PDT as above.
Thanks,
SJ
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-09-09 17:38 ` SeongJae Park
2022-09-19 22:14 ` SeongJae Park
@ 2023-11-08 14:55 ` SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2023-11-08 14:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello Community,
On Fri, 9 Sep 2022 17:38:56 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Tue, 30 Aug 2022 21:54:28 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > >
> > > In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> > > meeting series for DAMON community.
> > >
> > > Important links and dates
> > > -------------------------
> > >
> > > Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> > > Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
> > >
> > > First instance: 2022-08-15 18:00 PDT
> > > Second instance: 2022-08-30 09:00 PDT
[...]
>
> And I just received the acceptance notification of my BoF proposal. The
> schedule is not updated yet, but I guess it should be 2022-09-14 (Wednesday)
> 17:00-18:30 in Irish Standard Time (IST, UTC+01:00, Europe/Dublin timezone).
> So, our next DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea Chat series will be held in LPC2022, in
> person. I will update the final time and location as soon as possible.
Like the last year, DAMON BoF at LPC has accepted and scheduled[1]. So we will
have the second in-person DAMON community meetup (a.k.a Beer/Coffee/Tea Chat)!
The schedule is Wednesday 4:30 PM, EST. I hope it to be the place to meet with
community members, say hi to each other, and discuss any interesting things.
Since that's the close to the end of the conference, it could also be a good
place to say good bye to each other :)
Of course, please don't wait until the time slot if you have anything want to
ask to, or discuss with me. If you find me on the hall, I'm yours :)
Please also note that I'll have a talk about DAMON status and plans[2] at
kernel summit. The talk will start 2:30 PM, EST, of the same day (Wednesday).
So if I fail at time managing again and therefore if your question is not
answered, the BoF will be a nice place for that.
Looking forward to meet you all!
[1] https://lpc.events/event/17/contributions/1652/
[2] https://lpc.events/event/17/contributions/1624/
Thanks,
SJ
[...]
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-08-10 22:51 DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series SeongJae Park
2022-08-29 20:15 ` SeongJae Park
2022-08-30 21:54 ` SeongJae Park
@ 2022-09-28 17:59 ` SeongJae Park
2022-10-18 16:59 ` SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2022-09-28 17:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> meeting series for DAMON community.
The next instance of the series was scheduled to 2022-10-04 (Tue) 09:00 PDT
(https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu), but I now reschedule it 30 minutes
after, due to a conflict. So, the next instance will be:
2022-10-04 (Tue) 09:30 PDT (https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu)
I also updated the Google Doc for the agendas:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
Looking forward to meet you!
Thanks,
SJ
[...]
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-08-10 22:51 DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2022-10-18 16:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> meeting series for DAMON community.
>
> Important links and dates
> -------------------------
>
> Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
The meeting was scheduled for yesterday 18:00 PDT, but I forgot that. Sorrry
for my bad memory. It's very volatile and easily corrupted. I will try to
sanitize it next time.
For people who prefer the time zone, I will change the time of next meeting
from Tuesday 09:30 PDT to Monday 18:00 PDT. So, the next meeting will be at
2022-10-31 (Mon) 18:00 PDT, Google Meet (https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu).
Sincere apology again. I may prepare some sweets for you ;)
Thanks,
SJ
[...]
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-08-10 22:51 DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2022-11-01 1:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> meeting series for DAMON community.
>
> Important links and dates
> -------------------------
>
> Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
Next instance of the chat series was scheduled on 2022-11-15 (Tue) 09:30 PDT.
However, as the daylight saving time finishes before the date, I updated the
time to the same time but in PST. Please refer to the updated Agenda Google
doc. Sorry for late update, and looking foraward to see you in the next
meeting!
Thanks,
SJ
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-08-10 22:51 DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series SeongJae Park
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@ 2022-11-14 16:51 ` SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2022-11-14 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> meeting series for DAMON community.
>
> Important links and dates
> -------------------------
>
> Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
This is a reminder for the next instance of the chat series. Next instance
will be 2022-11-15 (Tue) 09:30 PST. You can show proposed agendas for the
chat, or propose your own using the above Google doc. Hope to meet some of you
:)
Thanks,
SJ
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-08-10 22:51 DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2022-11-28 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> meeting series for DAMON community.
>
> Important links and dates
> -------------------------
>
> Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
>
> First instance: 2022-08-15 18:00 PDT
> Second instance: 2022-08-30 09:00 PDT
This is a reminder for the next instance of the chat series. Next instance
will be 2022-11-28 (Mon) 18:00 PST, so about nine hours after now. You can
show proposed agendas for the chat, or propose your own using the above Google
doc. Hope to meet some of you :)
Thanks,
SJ
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-08-10 22:51 DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2022-12-13 1:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> meeting series for DAMON community.
>
> Important links and dates
> -------------------------
>
> Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
This is a reminder for the next instance of the chat series. Next instance
will be 2022-12-13 (Tue) 09:30 PST. You can show proposed agendas for the
chat, or propose your own using the above Google doc.
According to the original scheduling, the one after next instance would be
2022-12-26. Because the day is during the holiday season, I've canceled it.
So, the tomorrow one will be the last instance of this chat series for 2022.
Hope to meet some of you :)
Thanks,
SJ
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-08-10 22:51 DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2023-01-24 1:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> meeting series for DAMON community.
>
> Important links and dates
> -------------------------
>
> Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
This is a reminder for the next instance of the chat series. Next instance
will be 2023-01-23 (Tue) 09:30 PST. You can show proposed agendas for the
chat, or propose your own using the above Google doc. Looking forward to see
you after about 15 hours for the first time in the new lunar year :)
Thanks,
SJ
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2023-01-24 1:44 ` SeongJae Park
@ 2023-01-24 23:06 ` SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2023-01-24 23:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 01:44:21 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> > meeting series for DAMON community.
> >
> > Important links and dates
> > -------------------------
> >
> > Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> > Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
>
> This is a reminder for the next instance of the chat series. Next instance
> will be 2023-01-23 (Tue) 09:30 PST. You can show proposed agendas for the
> chat, or propose your own using the above Google doc. Looking forward to see
> you after about 15 hours for the first time in the new lunar year :)
If you tried to but couldn't join today meeting, that's not you or system's
fault but mine. I was out of mind this morning due to some other urgent things
and therefore couldn't attend, sorry.
Let's have yet another one instance for next Tuesday morning (PST), so
2023-01-31 (Tue) 09:30 PST.
Thanks,
SJ
>
>
> Thanks,
> SJ
>
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-08-10 22:51 DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series SeongJae Park
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2023-01-24 1:44 ` SeongJae Park
@ 2023-04-21 19:45 ` SeongJae Park
2023-05-18 18:53 ` SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2023-04-21 19:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> meeting series for DAMON community.
>
> Important links and dates
> -------------------------
>
> Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
The last instance was scheduled for Tuesday of this week, but I forgot the
schedule by my mistake. Sorry if you wanted to join. I therefore schedule
another instance for next Tuesday. Please check the agenda doc for the updated
schedule.
Sorry again.
Thanks,
SJ
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-08-10 22:51 DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series SeongJae Park
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2023-04-21 19:45 ` SeongJae Park
@ 2023-05-18 18:53 ` SeongJae Park
2023-08-01 1:21 ` SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2023-05-18 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> meeting series for DAMON community.
>
> Important links and dates
> -------------------------
>
> Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
The next instance was originally scheduled ror 2023-05-29. But I realized it's
a holiday in USA. So I rescheduled it to 2023-05-30. Please refer to the
Agenda doc whenever you unsure the schedules.
Thanks,
SJ
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-08-10 22:51 DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series SeongJae Park
` (10 preceding siblings ...)
2023-05-18 18:53 ` SeongJae Park
@ 2023-08-01 1:21 ` SeongJae Park
2023-08-01 1:27 ` SeongJae Park
2023-12-20 20:27 ` SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2023-08-01 1:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello community,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> meeting series for DAMON community.
>
> Important links and dates
> -------------------------
>
> Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
I'm gonna be out of office from mid of August to end of OSSummit Euro 2023[1],
partly for preparation of my OSSummit Euro talk[2]. For the reason, I will not
be able to schedule and attend the DAMON beer/coffee/tea meeting during the
time. I will still be reachable, though I might be less responsive during the
period.
Also, looking forward to meet some of you who will attend the conference! :)
[1] https://events.linuxfoundation.org/open-source-summit-europe/
[2] https://sched.co/1OGf9
Thanks,
SJ
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2023-08-01 1:21 ` SeongJae Park
@ 2023-08-01 1:27 ` SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2023-08-01 1:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 01:21:26 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello community,
>
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> > meeting series for DAMON community.
> >
> > Important links and dates
> > -------------------------
> >
> > Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> > Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
>
> I'm gonna be out of office from mid of August to end of OSSummit Euro 2023[1],
> partly for preparation of my OSSummit Euro talk[2]. For the reason, I will not
> be able to schedule and attend the DAMON beer/coffee/tea meeting during the
> time. I will still be reachable, though I might be less responsive during the
> period.
FYI, we will have one more meeting before that, on 2023-08-08. And the regular
series will restart from 2023-09-26. Updated the google doc.
>
> Also, looking forward to meet some of you who will attend the conference! :)
And, hopefully we can have a small but physical version of Beer/Coffee/Tea
meeting there! Feel free to ask me for a beer if you find me ;)
Thanks,
SJ
>
> [1] https://events.linuxfoundation.org/open-source-summit-europe/
> [2] https://sched.co/1OGf9
>
>
> Thanks,
> SJ
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-08-10 22:51 DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series SeongJae Park
` (11 preceding siblings ...)
2023-08-01 1:21 ` SeongJae Park
@ 2023-12-20 20:27 ` SeongJae Park
2024-01-03 20:30 ` SeongJae Park
2024-01-16 18:09 ` SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2023-12-20 20:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> meeting series for DAMON community.
>
> Important links and dates
> -------------------------
>
> Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
[...]
>
> When
> ----
>
> The meeting will be held every two weeks for 30 minutes. To cover as many
> timezones as possible, the meeting will be held once at Monday evening (18:00)
> PDT, and then at Tuesday morning (09:00) PDT two weeks after the previous one,
> and repeat.
Based on the above plan, our next meeting should be scheduled for 2024-01-01
(Mon) 18:00 PT. Because it is a holiday for many countries, I will schedule it
for 2024-01-12 (Tue) 18:00 PT.
Looking forward to meet you in the first meeting of the next year. Happy
holidays DAMON community :)
Thanks,
SJ
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2023-12-20 20:27 ` SeongJae Park
@ 2024-01-03 20:30 ` SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2024-01-03 20:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello,
On Wed, 20 Dec 2023 20:27:09 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> > meeting series for DAMON community.
> >
> > Important links and dates
> > -------------------------
> >
> > Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> > Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
> [...]
> >
> > When
> > ----
> >
> > The meeting will be held every two weeks for 30 minutes. To cover as many
> > timezones as possible, the meeting will be held once at Monday evening (18:00)
> > PDT, and then at Tuesday morning (09:00) PDT two weeks after the previous one,
> > and repeat.
>
> Based on the above plan, our next meeting should be scheduled for 2024-01-01
> (Mon) 18:00 PT. Because it is a holiday for many countries, I will schedule it
> for 2024-01-12 (Tue) 18:00 PT.
My intention was 2024-01-02, but I made a typo. I also forgot joining the
meeting yesterday, sorry for someone who got confused. Let's have one instead
on next Monday (2023-01-08) at 18:00 PT. Hope to see you on the 2024's first
instance of DAMON Beer/Coffee/Chat meeting :)
I also updated the schedule/agendas document:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
Thanks,
SJ
>
> Looking forward to meet you in the first meeting of the next year. Happy
> holidays DAMON community :)
>
>
> Thanks,
> SJ
>
> [...]
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-08-10 22:51 DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series SeongJae Park
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2023-12-20 20:27 ` SeongJae Park
@ 2024-01-16 18:09 ` SeongJae Park
2024-04-09 23:05 ` SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2024-01-16 18:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> meeting series for DAMON community.
>
> Important links and dates
> -------------------------
>
> Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
I again forgot to join today, sorry. I will try to add more alarms. Let's
have an alternative one on same time of next week (2024-01-23 09:30 PT). I
also updated the Google doc.
Thanks,
SJ
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* Re: DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series
2022-08-10 22:51 DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series SeongJae Park
` (13 preceding siblings ...)
2024-01-16 18:09 ` SeongJae Park
@ 2024-04-09 23:05 ` SeongJae Park
2024-04-16 18:40 ` Third in-person DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat SeongJae Park
2024-05-19 16:33 ` DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat reminder and extending for office hour SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2024-04-09 23:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello community,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> meeting series for DAMON community.
>
> Important links and dates
> -------------------------
>
> Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
If you tried to join today's meeting and if you were unable to join, it's all
my fault. Sorry, I again missed my alarm.
I was about to schedule another meeting instance for this on next Tuesday, but
I realized that it will conflict with OpenSource Summit NA
(https://events.linuxfoundation.org/open-source-summit-north-america/).
So let's have yet another meeting on a week after that. That is, 2024-04-23
Tuesday, 09:30 PT. My apology again for anyone who were unable to join the
meeting due to my fault, and looking forward to chat with you on the meeting.
I also updated the agenda doc
(https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing).
FYI, I will also attend the OSSummit next week in person, and DAMON will again
be presented there (https://sched.co/1aBOg). Looking forward to meet you in
person if possible!
Thanks,
SJ
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* Third in-person DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat
2022-08-10 22:51 DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series SeongJae Park
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2024-04-09 23:05 ` SeongJae Park
@ 2024-04-16 18:40 ` SeongJae Park
2024-05-19 16:33 ` DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat reminder and extending for office hour SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2024-04-16 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> meeting series for DAMON community.
I'm attending Open Source Summit North America 2024[1]. I just booked a time
slot and a half of a room to use it as an unconference session for the third
in-person DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea Chat instance.
- Time: 2024-04-17 (Wednesday) 16:55 to 17:35 PT
- Place: Room 444 of the conference venue
The time slot is just after my LinuxCon DAMON talk[2], and just before the
evening event of the conference. I hope this to be a good chance to meet with
other DAMON community members and chat anything fun. Please feel free to join.
Looking forward to meet you!
[1] https://events.linuxfoundation.org/open-source-summit-north-america/
[2] https://sched.co/1aBOg
Thanks,
SJ
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* DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat reminder and extending for office hour
2022-08-10 22:51 DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat series SeongJae Park
` (15 preceding siblings ...)
2024-04-16 18:40 ` Third in-person DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat SeongJae Park
@ 2024-05-19 16:33 ` SeongJae Park
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From: SeongJae Park @ 2024-05-19 16:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: SeongJae Park
Cc: damon, linux-damon, linux-damon-trial, linux-mm, linux-kernel
Hello,
On Wed, 10 Aug 2022 22:51:02 +0000 SeongJae Park <sj@kernel.org> wrote:
> Hello,
>
>
> In short, I'd like to start an open, regular, and informal virtual bi-weekly
> meeting series for DAMON community.
>
> Important links and dates
> -------------------------
>
> Location: https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu
> Agenda: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing
Recently I got some feedback about DAMON Beer/Coffee/Tea chat. They told me
having regular reminders of the series would be nice, and official time slots
for private discussion could be helpful. I encouraged scheduling private
meetings for such deep level dicussions, but I understand it could be more
easier if we have more official things for that. Hence, I'm making below two
changes.
Firstly, I will regularly provide reminder of the series, probably 1-2 days
before every instance.
Secondly, I'm extending this series for reservation-based office hour. That
is, I will reserve my time for 30 minutes every two weeks, keep the schedule
public, and encourage people to reserve the time for discussion on a special
topic for them. The reservation should be made at least one day before the
time slot, and will be first-come first-served basis. In detail, I will
reserve Monday afternoon or Tuesday morning of the group chat scheduled week.
Note that this is not necessarily only time slot for such discussion. You're
still encouraged to schedule private meetings on your convenience.
So, the reminders. Next open group chat will be held 2024-05-20 (Monday) 18:00
(PT) on Google Meet (https://meet.google.com/ndx-evoc-gbu).
Next reservation-based chats are scheduled for 2024-05-21 (Tuesday) 09:30 (PT)
and 2024-06-03 (Monday) 18:00 (PT). If you have some topics that you want to
discuss with me on the time slot, please reach out to me for the reservation,
at least one day before the time slot.
Every meeting is 30-minutes length by default.
Entire schedules are also available at the Agenda doc
(https://docs.google.com/document/d/1v43Kcj3ly4CYqmAkMaZzLiM2GEnWfgdGbZAH3mi2vpM/edit?usp=sharing)
Thanks,
SJ
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