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From: "Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason" <avarab@gmail.com>
To: Derrick Stolee <derrickstolee@github.com>
Cc: Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget <gitgitgadget@gmail.com>,
	git@vger.kernel.org, gitster@pobox.com, me@ttaylorr.com,
	vdye@github.com, steadmon@google.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/10] log: add default decoration filter
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2022 21:30:43 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <220811.86k07eplty.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2184ffe4-4fde-878f-052f-e7dcdebe8161@github.com>


On Fri, Aug 05 2022, Derrick Stolee wrote:

> On 8/5/2022 10:50 AM, Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason wrote:
>> 
>> On Fri, Aug 05 2022, Derrick Stolee wrote:
>
>>> Now that this version removed the notes ref from the
>>> decoration, the stance for inclusion is simple:
>>>
>>>   If Git offers to color the namespace with color.decoration.<slot>,
>>>   then Git decorates with that namespace by default.
>> 
>> I'm a bit confused, sorry.
>> 
>> So aside from "notes", if we have a color.decoration.<slot> applying to
>> a ref now, it's a bug in your series if it's not showing up anymore?
>
> The possible slots are:
>
>  * branch (refs/heads/)
>  * remoteBranch (refs/remotes/)
>  * tag (refs/tags/)
>  * stash (refs/stash)
>  * HEAD (HEAD)
>  * grafted (refs/replace/ or GIT_REPLACE_REF_BASE)
>
> These are exactly the namespaces that are now shown by default in
> this series.

No, e.g. "tag" doesn't mean "refs/tags/*", it means *a tag object*. Try
this on master:

	git update-ref refs/archived-tags/v2.36.0 refs/tags/v2.36.0

Then on master:

	./git -P -c color.decorate.tag="bold blue" log --oneline -1 v2.36.0
	6cd33dceed6 (tag: v2.36.0, gitster/yw/cmake-use-pcre2, gitgitgadget/yw/cmake-use-pcre2, tag: refs/archived-tags/v2.36.0) Git 2.36

But on "seen" currently:

	$ ./git -P -c color.decorate.tag="bold blue" log --oneline -1 v2.36.0
	6cd33dceed6 (tag: v2.36.0, gitster/yw/cmake-use-pcre2, gitgitgadget/yw/cmake-use-pcre2) Git 2.36

Before that "bold blue" applied to *tag objects*, but your series has
made it apply to the refs/tags/* namespace.

I noted this (indirectly) before in
https://lore.kernel.org/git/220726.86tu73ncf8.gmgdl@evledraar.gmail.com/;
I.e. that I have a "refs/built-tags/" namespace.

So that specifically seems like a regression by the criteria you've
established for inclusion. I.e. we have objects that are impacted by
existing coloring config now that your series is hiding, seemingly
because you've conflated "tag object" with "a name in in refs/tags/".

I *also* think it's overzelous to hide *uknown* things by default
because we think we might add more *known* internal things in the
future, but that's a distinct topic from this more narrow case, which
seems to be a clear regression by criteria you're establishing &
advocating for.

> If someone adds a new color slot, then that would need to be
> justified with a reason why that slot is important. We've already
> had discussions as to why showing a decoration for notes is not
> valuable to an end user. The stability of this config option (the
> last addition of 'grafted' was in 2011) is good evidence that this
> core set of namespaces is all users will need.
>
> By contrast, the use of "hidden" namespaces is relatively new and
> is expected to increase in the near future.

I really don't see how you're making the leap that because nobody's
bothered to customize the coloring for things in custom namespaces that
it's OK to hide them entirely.

I just leave everything at the default color settings, aside from (after
checking my ~/.gitconfig) one bit of diff coloring default that I found
annoying.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-11 20:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-26 14:04 [PATCH 0/3] log: create tighter default decoration filter Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-26 14:04 ` [PATCH 1/3] refs: allow "HEAD" as " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-26 15:10   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-29 13:23     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-26 14:04 ` [PATCH 2/3] log: add default " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-26 14:39   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-29 13:25     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-26 15:04   ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-27 14:50   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-27 19:07     ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-27 19:38       ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-29 20:32     ` Jeff King
2022-07-26 14:04 ` [PATCH 3/3] maintenance: stop writing log.excludeDecoration Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-27 14:50   ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-26 14:44 ` [PATCH 0/3] log: create tighter default decoration filter Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-26 16:38   ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-26 18:19     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-27 13:41       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-27 20:40         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-07-29 19:29 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 01/10] refs: allow "HEAD" as " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03  6:03     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-04 13:22       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 02/10] t4207: test coloring of grafted decorations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03  6:25     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-03  6:44       ` Eric Sunshine
2022-08-03 13:03         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-04  4:05           ` Eric Sunshine
2022-08-04 17:23             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-05 14:21               ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 03/10] refs: add array of ref namespaces Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03  6:16     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-04 13:29       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-04 16:16         ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-03 22:39     ` Josh Steadmon
2022-08-04 13:29       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 04/10] refs: use ref_namespaces for replace refs base Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03 22:38     ` Josh Steadmon
2022-08-04 13:30       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 05/10] log-tree: use ref_namespaces instead of if/else-if Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03  6:31     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-04 13:31       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-04 14:34         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-04 14:50           ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-04 17:40             ` Junio C Hamano
2022-08-04 20:17               ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 06/10] log: add default decoration filter Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-04  7:08     ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-05 14:27       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-05 14:50         ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason
2022-08-05 15:09           ` Derrick Stolee
2022-08-11 19:30             ` Ævar Arnfjörð Bjarmason [this message]
2022-08-12 19:37               ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 07/10] log: add --decorate-all option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-04 16:57     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 08/10] log: create log.decorateFilter=all Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03 22:42     ` Josh Steadmon
2022-08-04 13:38       ` Derrick Stolee
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 09/10] maintenance: stop writing log.excludeDecoration Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-03  6:36     ` Junio C Hamano
2022-07-29 19:29   ` [PATCH v2 10/10] fetch: use ref_namespaces during prefetch Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58   ` [PATCH v3 00/11] log: create tighter default decoration filter Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 01/11] refs: allow "HEAD" as " Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 02/11] t4207: modernize test Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 03/11] t4207: test coloring of grafted decorations Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 04/11] refs: add array of ref namespaces Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 05/11] refs: use ref_namespaces for replace refs base Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 06/11] log-tree: use ref_namespaces instead of if/else-if Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 07/11] log: add default decoration filter Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-09-08 21:13       ` Glen Choo
2022-09-09 12:23         ` Derrick Stolee
2022-09-09 16:19           ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-09 16:40             ` Derrick Stolee
2022-09-09 17:41               ` Junio C Hamano
2022-09-09 17:12             ` Glen Choo
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 08/11] log: add --clear-decorations option Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 09/11] log: create log.initialDecorationSet=all Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 10/11] maintenance: stop writing log.excludeDecoration Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget
2022-08-05 17:58     ` [PATCH v3 11/11] fetch: use ref_namespaces during prefetch Derrick Stolee via GitGitGadget

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