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From: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: "Rafał Miłecki" <zajec5-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Florian Fainelli"
	<f.fainelli-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"Rafał Miłecki" <rafal-g1n6cQUeyibVItvQsEIGlw@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] ARM: dts: BCM5301X: Specify MDIO bus in the DT
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:52:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <221a0208-8a64-6bd8-f6b2-39e845520a83@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cd324440-ad88-0981-1577-822d39ee289d-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On 04/19/2017 10:35 AM, Rafał Miłecki wrote:
> On 04/19/2017 06:43 PM, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>> On 04/02/2017 02:25 PM, Rafał Miłecki wrote:
>>> On 04/02/2017 11:14 PM, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>>> Le 04/02/17 à 14:08, Rafał Miłecki a écrit :
>>>>> From: Rafał Miłecki <rafal-g1n6cQUeyibVItvQsEIGlw@public.gmane.org>
>>>>>
>>>>> Northstar devices have MDIO bus that may contain various PHYs
>>>>> attached.
>>>>> A common example is USB 3.0 PHY (that doesn't have an MDIO driver
>>>>> yet).
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Rafał Miłecki <rafal-g1n6cQUeyibVItvQsEIGlw@public.gmane.org>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>  arch/arm/boot/dts/bcm5301x.dtsi | 7 +++++++
>>>>>  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm/boot/dts/bcm5301x.dtsi
>>>>> b/arch/arm/boot/dts/bcm5301x.dtsi
>>>>> index acee36a61004..6a2afe7880ae 100644
>>>>> --- a/arch/arm/boot/dts/bcm5301x.dtsi
>>>>> +++ b/arch/arm/boot/dts/bcm5301x.dtsi
>>>>> @@ -320,6 +320,13 @@
>>>>>          };
>>>>>      };
>>>>>
>>>>> +    mdio@18003000 {
>>>>> +        compatible = "brcm,iproc-mdio";
>>>>> +        reg = <0x18003000 0x8>;
>>>>> +        #size-cells = <1>;
>>>>> +        #address-cells = <0>;
>>>>> +    };
>>>>
>>>> This looks fine, but usually the block should be enabled on a per-board
>>>> basis, such that there should be a status = "disabled" property here by
>>>> default.
>>>
>>> I think we have few blocks in bcm5301x.dtsi enabled by default. I guess
>>> it's
>>> for stuff that is always present on every SoC family board: rng, nand,
>>> spi to
>>> name few.
>>>
>>> It makes some sense, consider e.g. spi. Every Northstar board has SPI
>>> controller so it's enabled by default. Not every board has SPI flash, so
>>> it's
>>> disabled by default.
>>>
>>> It's there and it make sense to me. Is that OK or not?
>>
>> Even though there are devices that are always enabled on a given SoC,
>> because the board designs are always consistent does not necessarily
>> make them good candidates to be enabled at the .dtsi level. This is
>> particularly true when there are external connections to blocks (SPI,
>> NAND, USB, Ethernet, MDIO to name a few), having them disabled by
>> default is safer as a starting point to begin with.
> 
> In case of Northstar there is USB 3.0 PHY connected *internally* to this
> MDIO.
> I don't think any board manufacturer is able to rip SoC out of the MDIO
> or the
> USB 3.0 PHY.

OK, then can you still resubmit a proper patch that a) puts that
information in the commit message, and b) also adds a proper label to
the mdio node such that it can later on be referenced by label in
board-level DTS files? By that I mean:

mdio: mdio@18003000 {

Thank you

> 
> 
>>> I find MDIO situation quite simiar. It seems every Northstar board has
>>> MDIO bus
>>> just devices may differ and should not be enabled by default.
>>
>> In which case, the only difference, for you would be to do to, at the
>> board-level DTS:
>>
>> &mdio {
>>     status = "okay";
>>
>>     phy@0 {
>>         reg = <0>;
>>         ...
>>     };
>> };
>>
>> versus:
>>
>> &mdio {
>>     phy@0 {
>>         reg = <0>;
>>         ...
>>     };
>> };
>>
>> I think we can afford putting the mdio node's status property in each
>> board-level DTS and make it clear that way that it is enabled because
>> there are child nodes enabled?
> 
> This will be a pretty big effort because every Northstar device I know
> has USB
> 3.0 PHY in the SoC.

Adding a one liner is a "pretty big effort", for sure.

> 
> 
>> NB: with a CONFIG_OF system, there is no automatic probing of MDIO child
>> devices because it relies on child nodes being declared, but you would
>> still get the driver to be probed and enabled, which is a waste of
>> resources at best.
> 
> Right, but DT role is to describe device/board and not really care if
> operating
> system handles that efficiently.


-- 
Florian
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From: f.fainelli@gmail.com (Florian Fainelli)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] ARM: dts: BCM5301X: Specify MDIO bus in the DT
Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:52:44 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <221a0208-8a64-6bd8-f6b2-39e845520a83@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cd324440-ad88-0981-1577-822d39ee289d@gmail.com>

On 04/19/2017 10:35 AM, Rafa? Mi?ecki wrote:
> On 04/19/2017 06:43 PM, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>> On 04/02/2017 02:25 PM, Rafa? Mi?ecki wrote:
>>> On 04/02/2017 11:14 PM, Florian Fainelli wrote:
>>>> Le 04/02/17 ? 14:08, Rafa? Mi?ecki a ?crit :
>>>>> From: Rafa? Mi?ecki <rafal@milecki.pl>
>>>>>
>>>>> Northstar devices have MDIO bus that may contain various PHYs
>>>>> attached.
>>>>> A common example is USB 3.0 PHY (that doesn't have an MDIO driver
>>>>> yet).
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Rafa? Mi?ecki <rafal@milecki.pl>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>  arch/arm/boot/dts/bcm5301x.dtsi | 7 +++++++
>>>>>  1 file changed, 7 insertions(+)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/arch/arm/boot/dts/bcm5301x.dtsi
>>>>> b/arch/arm/boot/dts/bcm5301x.dtsi
>>>>> index acee36a61004..6a2afe7880ae 100644
>>>>> --- a/arch/arm/boot/dts/bcm5301x.dtsi
>>>>> +++ b/arch/arm/boot/dts/bcm5301x.dtsi
>>>>> @@ -320,6 +320,13 @@
>>>>>          };
>>>>>      };
>>>>>
>>>>> +    mdio at 18003000 {
>>>>> +        compatible = "brcm,iproc-mdio";
>>>>> +        reg = <0x18003000 0x8>;
>>>>> +        #size-cells = <1>;
>>>>> +        #address-cells = <0>;
>>>>> +    };
>>>>
>>>> This looks fine, but usually the block should be enabled on a per-board
>>>> basis, such that there should be a status = "disabled" property here by
>>>> default.
>>>
>>> I think we have few blocks in bcm5301x.dtsi enabled by default. I guess
>>> it's
>>> for stuff that is always present on every SoC family board: rng, nand,
>>> spi to
>>> name few.
>>>
>>> It makes some sense, consider e.g. spi. Every Northstar board has SPI
>>> controller so it's enabled by default. Not every board has SPI flash, so
>>> it's
>>> disabled by default.
>>>
>>> It's there and it make sense to me. Is that OK or not?
>>
>> Even though there are devices that are always enabled on a given SoC,
>> because the board designs are always consistent does not necessarily
>> make them good candidates to be enabled at the .dtsi level. This is
>> particularly true when there are external connections to blocks (SPI,
>> NAND, USB, Ethernet, MDIO to name a few), having them disabled by
>> default is safer as a starting point to begin with.
> 
> In case of Northstar there is USB 3.0 PHY connected *internally* to this
> MDIO.
> I don't think any board manufacturer is able to rip SoC out of the MDIO
> or the
> USB 3.0 PHY.

OK, then can you still resubmit a proper patch that a) puts that
information in the commit message, and b) also adds a proper label to
the mdio node such that it can later on be referenced by label in
board-level DTS files? By that I mean:

mdio: mdio at 18003000 {

Thank you

> 
> 
>>> I find MDIO situation quite simiar. It seems every Northstar board has
>>> MDIO bus
>>> just devices may differ and should not be enabled by default.
>>
>> In which case, the only difference, for you would be to do to, at the
>> board-level DTS:
>>
>> &mdio {
>>     status = "okay";
>>
>>     phy at 0 {
>>         reg = <0>;
>>         ...
>>     };
>> };
>>
>> versus:
>>
>> &mdio {
>>     phy at 0 {
>>         reg = <0>;
>>         ...
>>     };
>> };
>>
>> I think we can afford putting the mdio node's status property in each
>> board-level DTS and make it clear that way that it is enabled because
>> there are child nodes enabled?
> 
> This will be a pretty big effort because every Northstar device I know
> has USB
> 3.0 PHY in the SoC.

Adding a one liner is a "pretty big effort", for sure.

> 
> 
>> NB: with a CONFIG_OF system, there is no automatic probing of MDIO child
>> devices because it relies on child nodes being declared, but you would
>> still get the driver to be probed and enabled, which is a waste of
>> resources at best.
> 
> Right, but DT role is to describe device/board and not really care if
> operating
> system handles that efficiently.


-- 
Florian

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-19 17:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-02 21:08 [PATCH] ARM: dts: BCM5301X: Specify MDIO bus in the DT Rafał Miłecki
2017-04-02 21:08 ` Rafał Miłecki
     [not found] ` <20170402210840.11429-1-zajec5-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 21:14   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-04-02 21:14     ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]     ` <5a6ecda9-2cf6-2171-7210-6b3a1d4c6012-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-02 21:25       ` Rafał Miłecki
2017-04-02 21:25         ` Rafał Miłecki
     [not found]         ` <c3a0455a-821f-d8a8-bf8a-7ad06ad0466e-g1n6cQUeyibVItvQsEIGlw@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-19 16:43           ` Florian Fainelli
2017-04-19 16:43             ` Florian Fainelli
     [not found]             ` <94250925-7d5d-ac31-58ad-918406d904f1-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-19 17:35               ` Rafał Miłecki
2017-04-19 17:35                 ` Rafał Miłecki
     [not found]                 ` <cd324440-ad88-0981-1577-822d39ee289d-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-19 17:52                   ` Florian Fainelli [this message]
2017-04-19 17:52                     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-04-19 18:10                     ` Rafał Miłecki
2017-04-19 18:10                       ` Rafał Miłecki
     [not found]                       ` <ab696d24-3544-a554-82d1-18839b29caa0-g1n6cQUeyibVItvQsEIGlw@public.gmane.org>
2017-04-19 18:13                         ` Florian Fainelli
2017-04-19 18:13                           ` Florian Fainelli
2017-04-19 21:54   ` [PATCH V2] " Rafał Miłecki
2017-04-19 21:54     ` Rafał Miłecki

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