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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Jianyong Wu <Jianyong.Wu@arm.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, yangbo.lu@nxp.com,
	john.stultz@linaro.org, tglx@linutronix.de, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	sean.j.christopherson@intel.com, richardcochran@gmail.com,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>,
	will@kernel.org, Suzuki Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
	Steven Price <Steven.Price@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Steve Capper <Steve.Capper@arm.com>, Kaly Xin <Kaly.Xin@arm.com>,
	Justin He <Justin.He@arm.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v9 6/8] psci: Add hvc call service for ptp_kvm.
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:16:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22ba1283a7b82f018c1fdf85414e5bfe@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <HE1PR0801MB167693BFB769ACEEA8A6B007F4350@HE1PR0801MB1676.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jianyong,

On 2020-01-13 10:30, Jianyong Wu wrote:
> Hi Marc,
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
>> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 6:56 PM
>> NV breaks that assumtion, because the guest hypervisor is using the 
>> physical
>> counter. Also, let's not forget that the hypercall isn't Linux 
>> specific.
>> I can write my own non-Linux guest and still use this hypercall. 
>> Nothing in
>> there says that I can't use the physical counter if I want to.
>> 
>> So somehow, you need to convey the the hypervisor the notion of 
>> *which*
>> counter the guest uses.
>> 
>> Does it make sense? Or am I missing something?
>> 
> I know what you say. Let me try to solve this problem.
> 	Step 0, summary out all the conditions we should process, which will
> sever as branch condition.(now only normal virt and nested virt, I
> think)

No. You shouldn't think of the various use cases, but of which time
references a guest can use. You don't need nested virt to use the 
physical
counter, for example.

> 	Step 1, figure out the set of reference counter value used by guest
> in all condition.

That should be for the guest to tell you when it calls into the PV 
service.

> 	Step 2, determine which reference counter value will be used by guest
> in a certain condition in hypercall.
> In step 1, can we give the set only 2 elements that one is physical
> counter the other is virtual counter?

I don't think returning the two values is useful. Just return what the
guest asks for.

> For step 2, I have no idea for that now. can you give me some hint 
> about it?

Just expand your SMC call to take a parameter indicating the reference
counter, and return the sampled (or computed) value corresponding to
that counter.

         M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Jianyong Wu <Jianyong.Wu@arm.com>
Cc: Justin He <Justin.He@arm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	richardcochran@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	sean.j.christopherson@intel.com,
	Steven Price <Steven.Price@arm.com>,
	john.stultz@linaro.org, yangbo.lu@nxp.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, nd <nd@arm.com>,
	will@kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v9 6/8] psci: Add hvc call service for ptp_kvm.
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:16:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22ba1283a7b82f018c1fdf85414e5bfe@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <HE1PR0801MB167693BFB769ACEEA8A6B007F4350@HE1PR0801MB1676.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jianyong,

On 2020-01-13 10:30, Jianyong Wu wrote:
> Hi Marc,
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
>> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 6:56 PM
>> NV breaks that assumtion, because the guest hypervisor is using the 
>> physical
>> counter. Also, let's not forget that the hypercall isn't Linux 
>> specific.
>> I can write my own non-Linux guest and still use this hypercall. 
>> Nothing in
>> there says that I can't use the physical counter if I want to.
>> 
>> So somehow, you need to convey the the hypervisor the notion of 
>> *which*
>> counter the guest uses.
>> 
>> Does it make sense? Or am I missing something?
>> 
> I know what you say. Let me try to solve this problem.
> 	Step 0, summary out all the conditions we should process, which will
> sever as branch condition.(now only normal virt and nested virt, I
> think)

No. You shouldn't think of the various use cases, but of which time
references a guest can use. You don't need nested virt to use the 
physical
counter, for example.

> 	Step 1, figure out the set of reference counter value used by guest
> in all condition.

That should be for the guest to tell you when it calls into the PV 
service.

> 	Step 2, determine which reference counter value will be used by guest
> in a certain condition in hypercall.
> In step 1, can we give the set only 2 elements that one is physical
> counter the other is virtual counter?

I don't think returning the two values is useful. Just return what the
guest asks for.

> For step 2, I have no idea for that now. can you give me some hint 
> about it?

Just expand your SMC call to take a parameter indicating the reference
counter, and return the sampled (or computed) value corresponding to
that counter.

         M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...
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From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
To: Jianyong Wu <Jianyong.Wu@arm.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>,
	Justin He <Justin.He@arm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, Suzuki Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, richardcochran@gmail.com,
	Steve Capper <Steve.Capper@arm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sean.j.christopherson@intel.com,
	Steven Price <Steven.Price@arm.com>, Kaly Xin <Kaly.Xin@arm.com>,
	john.stultz@linaro.org, yangbo.lu@nxp.com, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de, nd <nd@arm.com>,
	will@kernel.org, kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v9 6/8] psci: Add hvc call service for ptp_kvm.
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:16:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <22ba1283a7b82f018c1fdf85414e5bfe@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <HE1PR0801MB167693BFB769ACEEA8A6B007F4350@HE1PR0801MB1676.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>

Hi Jianyong,

On 2020-01-13 10:30, Jianyong Wu wrote:
> Hi Marc,
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
>> Sent: Friday, January 10, 2020 6:56 PM
>> NV breaks that assumtion, because the guest hypervisor is using the 
>> physical
>> counter. Also, let's not forget that the hypercall isn't Linux 
>> specific.
>> I can write my own non-Linux guest and still use this hypercall. 
>> Nothing in
>> there says that I can't use the physical counter if I want to.
>> 
>> So somehow, you need to convey the the hypervisor the notion of 
>> *which*
>> counter the guest uses.
>> 
>> Does it make sense? Or am I missing something?
>> 
> I know what you say. Let me try to solve this problem.
> 	Step 0, summary out all the conditions we should process, which will
> sever as branch condition.(now only normal virt and nested virt, I
> think)

No. You shouldn't think of the various use cases, but of which time
references a guest can use. You don't need nested virt to use the 
physical
counter, for example.

> 	Step 1, figure out the set of reference counter value used by guest
> in all condition.

That should be for the guest to tell you when it calls into the PV 
service.

> 	Step 2, determine which reference counter value will be used by guest
> in a certain condition in hypercall.
> In step 1, can we give the set only 2 elements that one is physical
> counter the other is virtual counter?

I don't think returning the two values is useful. Just return what the
guest asks for.

> For step 2, I have no idea for that now. can you give me some hint 
> about it?

Just expand your SMC call to take a parameter indicating the reference
counter, and return the sampled (or computed) value corresponding to
that counter.

         M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny...

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-01-13 11:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 90+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-12-10  3:40 [RFC PATCH v9 0/8] Enable ptp_kvm for arm64 Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40 ` Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40 ` Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40 ` [RFC PATCH v9 1/8] arm/arm64: smccc/psci: add arm_smccc_1_1_get_conduit() Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40   ` Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40   ` Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40 ` [RFC PATCH v9 2/8] psci: let arm_smccc_1_1_invoke available by modules Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40   ` Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40   ` Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40 ` [RFC PATCH v9 3/8] ptp: Reorganize ptp_kvm modules to make it arch-independent Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40   ` Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40   ` Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40 ` [RFC PATCH v9 4/8] time: Add mechanism to recognize clocksource in time_get_snapshot Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40   ` Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40   ` Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40 ` [RFC PATCH v9 5/8] clocksource: Add clocksource id for arm arch counter Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40   ` Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40   ` Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40 ` [RFC PATCH v9 6/8] psci: Add hvc call service for ptp_kvm Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40   ` Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40   ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-07  9:16   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-07  9:16     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-07  9:16     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-09  5:45     ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-09  5:45       ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-09  5:45       ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-09  9:16       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-09  9:16         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-09  9:16         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-10  9:51         ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-10  9:51           ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-10  9:51           ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-10 10:56           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-10 10:56             ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-10 10:56             ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-13 10:30             ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-13 10:30               ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-13 10:30               ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-13 11:16               ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2020-01-13 11:16                 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-13 11:16                 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-14 10:34                 ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-14 10:34                   ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-14 10:34                   ` Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40 ` [RFC PATCH v9 7/8] ptp: arm64: Enable ptp_kvm for arm64 Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40   ` Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40   ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-07  9:29   ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-07  9:29     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-07  9:29     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-09  5:59     ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-09  5:59       ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-09  5:59       ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-09  9:24       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-09  9:24         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-09  9:24         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-09  9:46         ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-09  9:46           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-09  9:46           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-10 10:15           ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-10 10:15             ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-10 10:15             ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-10 10:15         ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-10 10:15           ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-10 10:15           ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-10 10:35           ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-10 10:35             ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-10 10:35             ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-13 10:37             ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-13 10:37               ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-13 10:37               ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-13 11:21               ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-13 11:21                 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-13 11:21                 ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-14 10:22                 ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-14 10:22                   ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-14 10:22                   ` Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40 ` [RFC PATCH v9 8/8] kvm: arm64: Add capability check extension for ptp_kvm Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40   ` Jianyong Wu
2019-12-10  3:40   ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-06  9:38 ` [RFC PATCH v9 0/8] Enable ptp_kvm for arm64 Jianyong Wu
2020-01-06  9:38   ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-06  9:38   ` Jianyong Wu
2020-01-07  8:15   ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-01-07  8:15     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-01-07  8:15     ` Paolo Bonzini
2020-01-07  9:33     ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-07  9:33       ` Marc Zyngier
2020-01-07  9:33       ` Marc Zyngier

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